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Marek
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Posted - 26 Aug 2008 :  11:21:59  Show Profile  Visit Marek's Homepage Send Marek a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello,
can anybody help me to understand how someone exactly is aware that a spell was cast by wielding the Shadow Weave as opposed to the regular Weave?
What kind of test shall I consider? DC?
Thanks!

Daviot
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Posted - 26 Aug 2008 :  13:44:33  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage Send Daviot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 3.5 book Champions of Valor presents a "Detect Shadow Weave User" feat on page 28, but nothing says you can't adjudicate that a regular Spellcraft check made against a DC 2-5 higher than normal (for recognizing a Weave spell) could do the same thing, when a character stops to check such a thing.

The feat Insidious Magic (FRCS, PGtF) allows a Shadow Weave user to make their spells harder to detect, period.

Likewise, I would think that Arcane Sight and similar spells might allow a character an easier time of differentiating things.

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 26 Aug 2008 :  18:12:54  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a very visual DM - as such, I always have my casters (shadow weave and otherwise) vividly describe what their spells look like the first time they cast them.

My rule (one I've never told the PCs to simulate skill-activation) is that anytime a spell is cast, anywhere, a PC with the Spellcraft feat can make a check to note the colors, shapes, and sounds caused by the spell in order to guess their origin (as in favored element, deity, or even weave/non-weave origins).

Amara, my company's shadow-weave wielding rogue/necromancer/shadow adept/shadow dancer Shade (yeah, keep all that straight DMs, I dare ya!) casts spells that look very much like regular spells, but they all have deep shadowy veins running through them, something I've always pictured looking like an infection.

My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm
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Daviot
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 :  01:11:40  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage Send Daviot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very apt and visually impressive, Arion. Though, what alignment is your group's Shade Rogue/necromancer/shadow adept/shadowdancer? I scare think such a person would be smiles and rainbows. ~_^

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 07 Sep 2008 :  06:46:35  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She's been fluctuating, but still remains Neutral Evil...though I'm finding her having more and more of what good ol' 2nd ed would call "Chaotic Neutral tendencies".

The kicker is that the player is possibly the sweetest gamin' girl alive. She really IS all smiles and rainbows...her character, however...*shudder*

Last session she asked me if she could have a "stitched familiar". Good gods.

My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm
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Stout Heart
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Posted - 07 Sep 2008 :  15:38:25  Show Profile  Visit Stout Heart's Homepage Send Stout Heart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arion Elenim

She's been fluctuating, but still remains Neutral Evil...though I'm finding her having more and more of what good ol' 2nd ed would call "Chaotic Neutral tendencies".

The kicker is that the player is possibly the sweetest gamin' girl alive. She really IS all smiles and rainbows...her character, however...*shudder*

Last session she asked me if she could have a "stitched familiar". Good gods.



Ha ha ha ha I wanna join your game all ready.
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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 07 Sep 2008 :  18:47:40  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aww thanks so much Stout Heart - that's the best compliment a DM could ever hear.

Yeah, that group is probably the most diverse and bizarre company I've ever gamed. Somehow, the characters care about one another and stay focused on common goals despite VERY little in common personality-wise.

My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm
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Daviot
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Posted - 08 Sep 2008 :  06:09:41  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage Send Daviot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
Yeah, that group is probably the most diverse and bizarre company I've ever gamed. Somehow, the characters care about one another and stay focused on common goals despite VERY little in common personality-wise.


I've had some of that too (one of my current campaigns features a LG tiefling and a CG aasimar in the same party), but so long as it works and both the players and the DM have fun, that's really all that matters in the end.

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 08 Sep 2008 :  16:13:52  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's why I'll always suport concepts like the Shadow Weave, Wild Magic, psionics, etc.

In Faerun, it's easy for characters to become unfazed by magic - it's a near-to-common-place occurance for your average adventurer, which is something that I actually love about the Realms. However, when someone casts a fireball that doesn't LOOK like a fireball, when its wreathed in shadow instead of flame and CLEARLY has nothing to do with Mystra, suddenly the game doesn't seem as safe, and the characters have to reckon with new variables.

So, yay Shadow Magic.

My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm
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