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Brimstone
Great Reader
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3287 Posts |
 Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 17:33:50
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-Update from this thread. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1073327
[QUOTE=Red_Wizard;16558124]Gods for now, more later when I get to read :D.
Deities of 4e Realms:
Greater Gods:
Amaunator
Asmodeus
Bane
Chauntea
Corellon
Cyric
Ghaunadaur
Gruumsh
Kelemvor
Lolth
Moradin
Ohgma
Selune
Shar
Silvanus
Sune
Tempus
Torm
Gods: Serve the greaters
Angharraadh
Auril
Bahamut
Berronar Truesilver
Beshaba
Garl Glittergold
Gond
Ilmater
Loviatar
Luthnic
Meilikki
Sheela Peryroyl
Sseth
Talona
Tiamat
Tymora
Umberlee
Waukeen
Zehir
Exarchs/ Demigods: Ascended mortals mainly, some have mortal worshippers
Abbathor
Arvoreen
Baervan Wildwanderer
Bahgtru
Baravar Cloakshadow
Berronar
Brandobaris
Callarduran Smoothhands
Clangeddon Silverbeard
Cyrrollalee
Deep Seshalas
Dugmaren Brightmantle
Erevan Ilesere
Fenmarel Mestarline
Fzoul Chembryl
Garagos
Hoar
Hruggek
Jergal
Labelas Enoreth
Lliira
Maglubiyet
Malar
Marthammor Duin
Milil
Obould
The Red Knight
Sharess
Shargaas
Shevarash
Shiallia
Siamorphe
Solonar Thelandrira
Thard Harr
Uthgar
Valkur
Vaprak
Vergadain
Primordials:
Akadi
Bazim-Gorag
Grumbar
Istishia
Kossuth
Seven Lost Gods. (Includes Dendar, Kezef, and Borem of the Boiling Mud)
Archdevils: One for each of the nine
Baalzebul
Bel
Belial
Dispater
Glasya
Levistus
Mammon
Mephistopheles
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Enjoy, or blast as you will. ;)
-RW[/QUOTE]
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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 11 Aug 2008 23:02:07
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 18:02:02
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 18:07:36
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| Like just about everything with the 4-Gotten Realms I am not real pleased by this list. Eliminating all the racial gods is just plain stupid. And forcefeeding us Asmodeus as a greater god and zehir sucks too |
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 19:46:49
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| Ghaunadaur? Greater God? ... alas, Loviatar is still about. |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 20:33:04
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| Zehir is news to me. Sseth(Set) was intended to be the serpent god in the 4E Realms. I suspect Zehir was tacked on because of the NWN2 expansion Storm of Zehir. Seems odd to have two serpent themed deities when the plan was to not overlap portfolios. |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
595 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 20:45:21
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No Mask?
Has my dream come true and Cyric finally decided to settle matters with this little pest once and for all?  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:03:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
Zehir is news to me. Sseth(Set) was intended to be the serpent god in the 4E Realms. I suspect Zehir was tacked on because of the NWN2 expansion Storm of Zehir. Seems odd to have two serpent themed deities when the plan was to not overlap portfolios.
I was thinking the same thing.
And yes, I was wondering why the heck Ghaunadaur is now a Greater God. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:26:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Mirtek
No Mask?
Has my dream come true and Cyric finally decided to settle matters with this little pest once and for all?
I'm disappointed with not seeing Mask on the list because I think he was underused. I think it would have been a lot of fun to have had Mystra's assassination and Cyric's imprisonment result from Mask's machinations. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:30:21
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| Now only half of these gods are actual Forgotten Realms deities created by Ed. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:35:30
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-Moved to first post.
BRIMSTONE |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:35:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
Zehir is news to me. Sseth(Set) was intended to be the serpent god in the 4E Realms. I suspect Zehir was tacked on because of the NWN2 expansion Storm of Zehir. Seems odd to have two serpent themed deities when the plan was to not overlap portfolios.
well, it probably has to do with the fact that are force feeding us the core stuff |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 21:56:59
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More like they needed the tie-in to the lucrative video games, so they threw their 'plan' out the window... AGAIN.
No Set? Sseth somehow managed to become powerful once again and oust Set, when EVERYTHING pointed to the exact opposite happening? I have been saying for a couple months now that Zehir WOULD be in FR, but I didn't see this coming (unless he IS Set, which is what I've been predicting), but that makes no-sense then why both would still be present.
Did these guys even bother reading SK?
Fzoul is an Exarch? 
Now the dirivitive Moustache-twirling villains all have their own god.
Bahamut and Tiamet are both lesser? Who are they serving? Primordials? I knew Bazim-Gorag would have a more prominent position, do to the GHotR featuring a lovely pic of him.
I hate to admit it, but I find Dender and Kazef listed as two of the 'lost seven' interesting... 
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
And yes, I was wondering why the heck Ghaunadaur is now a Greater God.
BC and Abeirations... need I say more? 
This list doesn't thrill me, to say the least. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:08:16
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Originally posted by Markustay
No Set? Sseth somehow managed to become powerful once again and oust Set, when EVERYTHING pointed to the exact opposite happening? I have been saying for a couple months now that Zehir WOULD be in FR, but I didn't see this coming (unless he IS Set, which is what I've been predicting), but that makes no-sense then why both would still be present.
Did these guys even bother reading SK?
Seeing Sseth instead of Set did also suprised me, however there are two logical explanations:
1. They retconned Sseth and Set to have always been the same entity (I just said logical explanations, not "nice explanations"  )
2. When the merger with Abeir annihilated Set's main concentration of worshippers in a single fell moment, it was enough for Sseth to break free of the magical slumber and devour the shocked Set |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:10:37
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so... did I miss any or are all the Mulhorandi gods gone, also...
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:17:53
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Also noticed Nobanion is conspicuously absent - so much for Brian's Realmslore article. 
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"I'm the left hand, who are you?"
"I'm the right hand! How is it we've never met before?"
"Must be because we never worked on anything together..."
Sorry in advance to Brian - I don't blame you at all - it's pretty obvious that the 'game plan' they originally released for 4e FR (to the designers and authors) was re-written several times, and that everyone involved wound up writing to various editions of that plan.
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Originally posted by Mkhaiwati
so... did I miss any or are all the Mulhorandi gods gone, also...
Called this one as well - accept I thought Set was going to be the Realms version of Zehir. |
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:19:08
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| Nobanion is no where to be seen... Well I gave it the old college try. Didn't think it was appropriate for Nobanion to be a mortal druid. Oh well. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:24:54
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To be honest, I'd rather see him gone, then 'down-sized' in any way. At least he gets to die with dignity.
Because I agree with you - seeing him as human Druid was just too much to swallow.
If he gets NO mention, that leaves it up to the individual DMs if they want their Realms-version of Aslan back.
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:31:14
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| Unfortunately, up to individuals DMs who know who he is. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:37:42
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| Exarch Obould and, as mentioned, Fzoul (who do you say that, by the way?) ... but of course neither Elminster nor Drizzt nor any of the seven sisters ... |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:43:50
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| Fzool. F + z + oo + l. ou consistently has that sound value in Realms words, with a very few exceptions such as Doust. |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
595 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:45:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
but of course neither Elminster nor Drizzt nor any of the seven sisters
Why should Drizzt become an exarch? He really never did anything truly exceptional for his god, he barely even mentions him. He barely mentions any deity at all and if he does it it's mostly Mielikki while he is actually only an indirect servant of her by being a servant of her servant Gwaeron Windstrom
And with El and the 7, well the deity who would been their most likely sponsor is death |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:58:54
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-Up dated the List added Ilmater, and Loviatar. 
BRIMSTONE |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 00:15:45
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Didn't notice that Obould was an exarch the first time through...
We need a 'head-shaking' smiley.
So Fzoul, lord of Pasta, and Obould are now on the exact same power-level as Garagos, Hoar, and Jergal?!
Hmmmmm... I seem to be in need of a tissue... there's blood running from my ears...  |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
595 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 00:30:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
So Fzoul, lord of Pasta, and Obould are now on the exact same power-level as Garagos, Hoar, and Jergal?!
Well, at least that isn't without precedence. Assuming the were raised by Bane and Gruumsh respectively, a mortal being made demigod by a greater god happened before (just think of Torm, the Red Knight, Velsharoon, Azuth)
This is something that could have happened just as likely in 3.x lore |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 00:59:53
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Granted, I'm not as "up" on all the 4e info... but what happened to Velsharoon?
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
Archdevils: One for each of the nine
Baalzebul
Bel
Belial
Dispater
Glasya
Levistus
Mammon
Mephistopheles
No Asmodeus? |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:05:52
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-Asmo is up the list in the Greater Deity section. V is missing in action.
BRIMSTONE |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:28:50
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-Update Asmodeus killed Azuth and took his stuff!!!!
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1073327&goto=newpost
[QUOTE=Red_Wizard;16562275]!Update on Azuth!
He is officially dead.
When he was shunted from dweomerheart, he landed in the 9th with Asmodeus. Asmodeus slew him, and stole his power. Apparently he was once a god cast down, and this was his chance to regain divinity.
-RW[/QUOTE]
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
595 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:36:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
No Asmodeus?
Asmo is up the list in the Greater Deity section. V is missing in action.
Newest update: It seems that when Azuth was pushed out of the collapsing Dweomerheart he fell straight into Nessus where he was consumed by Asmodeus who thus rekindled his own dormant divine spark
edit: too slow, didn't notice that there's already a page 2 until after I posted |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:46:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm disappointed with not seeing Mask on the list because I think he was underused. I think it would have been a lot of fun to have had Mystra's assassination and Cyric's imprisonment result from Mask's machinations.
But remember, we can't have gods that might steal the limelight away from Shar. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:49:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
I knew Bazim-Gorag would have a more prominent position, do to the GHotR featuring a lovely pic of him.
I have to admit I don't even remember who that is.
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BC and Abeirations... need I say more?
I guess not. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:52:53
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-The Slaadi Lord from Champions of Ruin, Rinonalyrna.
BRIMSTONE |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 12 Aug 2008 01:53:26 |
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A List of Deities in the 4E FRCG
