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Salius Kai
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  04:28:27  Show Profile  Visit Salius Kai's Homepage Send Salius Kai a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Ah-ha! I bet all of you thought that all of "Whats your favorite" topics had been done. But I was talking about one of my friends on this subject yesterday and though I would liek to hear what the scribes of candlekeep have to say about it.

I don't know if theres even enough members who post frequently enough to carry out a decent debate over the subject, but i'm always willing to try for a debate sooo.

Whats your favorite plane-touched. I myself am partial to Earth Genasi.

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Well, if we are talking official 3e FR Planetouched, I would have to say that I like Fire Genasi the most. However, being a devotee of the Planescape setting and it's officially published material as well as vast tomes of fan-created material, I would have to say that the answer would be the Dust Genasi from the Quasi-Elemental Plane of Dust.


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For those interested in Genasi of many various types, from various different planes, I would suggest studying this site. It has some very interesting information on all types of Genasi for use in your campaigns.

A word of warning though, it is written in the flavor of the Planescape setting, and certain terms may seem a little bizarre for the uninitiated.




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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  07:41:16  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, offhand, I'd say fire or air; however, I'll take a look at that link. Likely I'll find something good there.

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Can I ask why you are partial to the Earth genasi Salius?. And you too Bookwyrm. Why do you like Fire/Air genasi?.


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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  09:34:39  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a general liking. I didn't think too hard about it, knowing that I could look at the website you linked to. (Interesting stuff, by the by.) It's probably because of my liking for dragons -- fire and air. However, like I said, I'm going to read all the planetouched descriptions first, and then I'll make a decision.

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There is a lot more genasi than those detailed on the site. However since this is an FR forum, I would not do well to risk the wrath of the wise Alaundo, by listing a large number of Planescape related sites here .

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  10:36:20  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe you could list the other planes? Or would that be too much?

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Would you like a listing of all the para- and quasi-elemental genasi I was talking about?.

Or just a basic listing of the planes involved?.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  10:50:04  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I was looking for the genasi themselves, but don't do it if you think Alaundo might object. Perhaps we should wait until he inspects this scroll, and pens permission/disaproval? If the latter, you can always email me some stuff, assuming it's not too much trouble . . . .

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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  11:04:35  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I will await the approval of Alaundo, but I can say that given the fact that there are eighteen official elemental planes (depending on the D&D edition) not just the four basic foundation elemental planes of Earth, Air, Fire, and Water, but the Paraelemental Planes that are created from the combing of these (Ooze, Magma, Ice, and Smoke), and the Energy Planes (both Positive and Negative), and the Quasielemental Planes that connect the basic elements to the energy poles (Vacuum, Salt, Ash, Dust, Lightning, Steam, Radiance, and Mineral) clearly illustrates exactly how many types of genasi there can be...


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  11:08:32  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Um . . . the genasi of each of those planes are listed on that site . . . .

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No, though most of the Quasi-Elemental genasi are. The rest are from the collected materials of the Planescape setting, as well as fan-created material. They are listed in the sites I am going to post.


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Salius Kai
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  19:30:45  Show Profile  Visit Salius Kai's Homepage Send Salius Kai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Origianally posted by: Sage of Perth

Can I ask why you are partial to the Earth genasi Salius?.


I like the way the "Races of Rearun" book make them sound. Also, the picture they did of them adds alot to that. They also have some pretty neat starting feats, and their treated as humans so they get the extra first level feat. But mostly, I'd say its the characteristics of the earth genasi that set it apart from the others. I'll list they characteristics of each, right out of the book, in a couple minutes.

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Salius Kai
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Posted - 06 Jul 2003 :  19:46:25  Show Profile  Visit Salius Kai's Homepage Send Salius Kai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As promised, here are the characteristics of each of the plane-touched. All plane-touched look human exept for one or two features that set them apart, here they are.

Air Genasai
light blue skin
pale white skin
light blue hair
white hair
a constant slight breeze in their presence
flesh is cool to the touch
voice that can be heard over any nonmagical wind
any sudden movement is accompanied by whistling wind

Earth Genasi
earthlike skin
eyes like black pits
eyes like gems
gravelly voice
very large hands and feet
iron gray hair
sweats mud instead of water
metallic sheen to skin or hair

Fire Genasi
charcoal gray skin
deep red skin
red or orange hair that waves like flames
eyes that glow when the genasi is angry
unusually warm skin
large red teeth
always smells like smoke

Water Gensai
lightly scaled skin
clammy flesh
blue-green skin or hair
large blue-black eyes
webbed hands and feet

Those are the FR genasi, but lets not forget about the other plane-touched

Aasimar
golden eyes
silver hair
emerald skin
feathers at the shoulder
feathers in hair
pearly opalescent eyes
powerful ringing voice
brilliant topaz eyes
silvery or golden skin
iridescent scales in small patches

Tiefling
small horns on head
fangs or pointed teeth
forked tounge
glowinf red eyes
cat eyes
more or less than five fingers
goatlinke legs
ooves
non-prehensile tail
furry, leathery, or scaley skin
red skin
bruised blue skin
casts no shadow
throws no reflection
skin is hot to touch
smell of brimstone

Fey'ri
firey red eyes
fine scales all over skin
long pointed tails
batlinke ears
deep red skin

Tanarukk
the Tanarukk have none of these descriptions because they never look human (but they are plane-touched). Imagine what an Orc would look like crossed with a wild boar, then theres a Tanarukk

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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 :  11:44:51  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, I am quite partial to Tieflings, largely because they are so unique. No two Tieflings are alike it seems. They also seem not to be totally beholden to their infernal halves.

Now, if we're talking not quite official Planescape material then I'd say a Lightning Genasi. No particular reason, I just like them.

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 :  12:16:15  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually I was thinking of running a Genasi PC in a Calimshan game I will be playing in (not DMing) shortly. The DM has allowed free reign of choice on pretty much every aspect of our PC's. The only real question is, which Genasi would be fun to play in a Calimshan setting?.


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Mournblade
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I have to say I have always been partial to the CAMBION and the ALU-FIEND. They were first introduced in the ist ed MMII, and they are NOT tieflings. They are a level above most of the planetouched. I think they are just a cut above the rest.


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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 :  19:26:35  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, classically an air or fire genasi would be the appropriate choice for a Cali****e campaign. Most suitable in my opinion would be an air genasi, since the Cali****es tend to have a great deal of respect, or at least fear, for air elementals, so I am sure similar respect would be garnered to air genasi. But, in the end any old genasi would do, except perhaps a water genasi, which would be out of place in a desert, although that might be interesting on some level.

NOTE: Apparently the formaized term for a person or thing originating in Calisham (a Cali****e) violates the language code.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 08 Jul 2003 :  02:36:14  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm . . . looks like Alaundo never updated his anti-profanity wards . . . this has happened at least once before, I believe.

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Posted - 08 Jul 2003 :  07:09:08  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is why I crafted my post around 'Calimshan', even though it does not exactly sound right. Cali****e was what I really wanted to ask about.

Oh well...


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Posted - 08 Jul 2003 :  07:11:19  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mournblade said -
quote:
I have to say I have always been partial to the CAMBION and the ALU-FIEND.
I don't have access to all my tomes at the moment so I can't check, but wasn't one of these also detailed in the 1e Fiend Folio as well?.


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quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

Mournblade said -
quote:
I have to say I have always been partial to the CAMBION and the ALU-FIEND.
I don't have access to all my tomes at the moment so I can't check, but wasn't one of these also detailed in the 1e Fiend Folio as well?.





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Posted - 08 Jul 2003 :  07:42:15  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My mistake . Thanks Mournblade.


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I'd say that Aasimars are my favorites. They are the closest to the human but still very different. I feel they are like the standard half-breed but a little "extra" that makes them very interesting
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They also make interesting PC's as well.




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Posted - 10 Jul 2003 :  10:25:45  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's exactly what i meant
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I know. Although some gamers I know only allow these types of 'powered' races as NPC's - completely under the DM's control.


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I allow it only to players i can trust. That will roleplay it well.
Right now, in my new campaign i allow nearly every races
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Yes, there are some players who will abuse these 'powered' races, forgetting about such concepts as maintaining game balance and fairness.


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