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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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 Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 22:33:13
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I think the old Realms were a MUCH better example of 'Points of Light' then the new version, but whatever.
We seem to have strayed a bit from Chult...
I see there is no Ubtao or Eshowdow (although of the three Chultan dities, Sseth seems to have risen in power and prominence).
I've speculated about those two being Selune and Shar under aliases, so if they play it off that way it would make some sense (not perfect mind you). |
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StarBog
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
152 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2008 : 23:47:19
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Originally posted by Markustay
I think the old Realms were a MUCH better example of 'Points of Light' then the new version, but whatever.
Briefly (lest the wrath of WR come down on this off-topic divergence like a bad-tempered giant panda bear with haemorrhoids), yes, but the new WOTC Points of Light is a totally player-centered concept. Just like, oh you know...an MMO....
Anyway, yes, the new Chult. Again, I'm not impressed. It seems much less mythic and grand in scale. |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 07:48:02
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Originally posted by Faraer
'two core brands' of D&D and Magic
Hmmm, you got me thinking. Is there a D&D trading card game on the market? What I gather from 4e is that it wouldnt be hard to adapt that into one. "Once per encounter powers" are kinda like "Tap to activate and dont untap next round." Then you have the "tap and untap" powers that work once a round ... As usual I hope I am wrong about this, but always ready to be disappointed. Even if it doesnt turn into a trading card game marketing cards for the powers would be a lucrative idea as "playing aids" for those who dont even want to read a book and just "in style" with plastic miniatures. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 10:12:58
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Originally posted by Pandora
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Originally posted by Faraer
'two core brands' of D&D and Magic
Hmmm, you got me thinking. Is there a D&D trading card game on the market? What I gather from 4e is that it wouldnt be hard to adapt that into one. "Once per encounter powers" are kinda like "Tap to activate and dont untap next round." Then you have the "tap and untap" powers that work once a round ... As usual I hope I am wrong about this, but always ready to be disappointed. Even if it doesnt turn into a trading card game marketing cards for the powers would be a lucrative idea as "playing aids" for those who dont even want to read a book and just "in style" with plastic miniatures.
Isn't there already 'Power Cards' for sale? And the way that 4E feels to me, from the persective of its emphasized group dynamics, is like building a MtG deck -- you optimize the group efficiency and supplement each other's powers, instead of optimizing your own character as an individual. |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 10:46:38
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Originally posted by Markustay
I see there is no Ubtao or Eshowdow (although of the three Chultan dities, Sseth seems to have risen in power and prominence).
I've speculated about those two being Selune and Shar under aliases, so if they play it off that way it would make some sense (not perfect mind you).
I've always had Eshowdow being an aspect of Shar in my campaigns. I guess that makes both of us just as guilty as WotC of not allowing two deities with similar or overlapping portfolios (no matter that they are from different regional 'pantheons'). |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 12:11:32
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Originally posted by Pandora
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Originally posted by Faraer
'two core brands' of D&D and Magic
Hmmm, you got me thinking. Is there a D&D trading card game on the market?
The nearest I can thing of is Spellfire from TSR over ten years ago. Then again, I am usually not the first one to discover something new. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 16:15:52
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| I've actually thought that it would be interesting if they developed the Magic: the Gatering campaign setting as a D&D campaign setting. It seems like some rather interesting worlds. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 17:26:11
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While looking for some pics to use with some of my homebrew stuff awhile back, I made a wonderful discovery - the MtG site right at WotC!
Noy only is the fluff FAR superior to anything produced by the D&D division, but by-and-large the art also tends to be better. I've adapted a number of things from the Mirrodin material for the Utter East, and cherry-pick from all the sets, artwork, and fluff for ideas. I even like their version of the Loxo better.
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
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Originally posted by Pandora
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Originally posted by Faraer
'two core brands' of D&D and Magic
Hmmm, you got me thinking. Is there a D&D trading card game on the market? What I gather from 4e is that it wouldnt be hard to adapt that into one. "Once per encounter powers" are kinda like "Tap to activate and dont untap next round." Then you have the "tap and untap" powers that work once a round ... As usual I hope I am wrong about this, but always ready to be disappointed. Even if it doesnt turn into a trading card game marketing cards for the powers would be a lucrative idea as "playing aids" for those who dont even want to read a book and just "in style" with plastic miniatures.
Isn't there already 'Power Cards' for sale? And the way that 4E feels to me, from the persective of its emphasized group dynamics, is like building a MtG deck -- you optimize the group efficiency and supplement each other's powers, instead of optimizing your own character as an individual.
This was discussed over at Paizo - while such cards would be VERY lucrative to a company producing them, WotC reserves the SOLE right to produce such playing aids (for 4e).
So if we see any, they will probably be s__t.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 17:48:06
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Originally posted by Markustay
I even like their version of the Loxo better.
That doesn't match the description of FR loxo, though... The loxo of FR do not have a single abbreviated-but-otherwise-normal trunk. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 19:10:37
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Oh, I know - those are the ones I use in my Shaar, though. The regular, two-trunk variety I have as a more advanced culture to the south, in the Utter East.
Still, a lot of the art and fluff I like to go through for ideas - tons of good stuff in there (along with some bad, but thats the case with everything).
Those were only the rough sketches of the Loxodon, BTW - the finished pics were much better.  |
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chance87
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 03:10:11
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I've been anticipating that in 09, or early 10, we'll see Power cards released by WotC. The Powers stat blocks I've seen in the excerpts seem ready made to plaster on cards. Any takers on whether the cards will be randomized, and every pack guaranteed to have at least 1 Rare or Very Rare? 
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This was discussed over at Paizo - while such cards would be VERY lucrative to a company producing them, WotC reserves the SOLE right to produce such playing aids (for 4e).
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 13:36:17
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Originally posted by chance87
I've been anticipating that in 09, or early 10, we'll see Power cards released by WotC. The Powers stat blocks I've seen in the excerpts seem ready made to plaster on cards. Any takers on whether the cards will be randomized, and every pack guaranteed to have at least 1 Rare or Very Rare?
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This was discussed over at Paizo - while such cards would be VERY lucrative to a company producing them, WotC reserves the SOLE right to produce such playing aids (for 4e).
Hmmm ... "sole right to produce playing aids"? Since you CAN use miniatures from other manufacturers they should go on a crusade to sue them?
Alternatively WotC could create a "gaming police" and barge into players houses and check if they only use the "officially sanctioned playing aids (time to check the fine print in your 4e books to see if they added this condition to the purchasing agreement). I am just my sarcastic little self here.
On the power cards anything other than sorting them by class (and probably power level if the spells for a class have to be split up into several batches) and "general powers" would be nonsense / blatant moneymaking. |
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StarBog
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 13:49:30
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Originally posted by Pandora
Alternatively WotC could create a "gaming police" and barge into players houses and check if they only use the "officially sanctioned playing aids (time to check the fine print in your 4e books to see if they added this condition to the purchasing agreement).
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 16:23:00
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Originally posted by StarBog
Don't worry, White Wolf already tried that with the Camarilla and the new WOD.
And then they ended up hosting an OWoD Wiki. |
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