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The Red Walker
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Posted - 13 Jul 2008 :  14:43:35  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
If wotc ever does allow a pre-spellplague novel, where would you like to see it set and what would it cover? I know we all have area we would like to have see fleshed out a bit more and was just curious as to what people would like to have seen.

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Posted - 14 Jul 2008 :  00:37:18  Show Profile  Visit Theophilus's Homepage Send Theophilus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Manshoon Wars - with associated areas
[I should learn how to read properly!]

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Realmslore swells with tantalizing hints of adventures, heroes and legendary names of the early and mid-14th century DR. Ed Greenwood's highly condensed Knights trilogy and Eric Boyd's articles on Mintiper Moonsilver are some of the first inroads into a corpus of tale and legend central to the bardic lore and adventuring culture of Faerūn which we must imagine from cursory summaries and allusions but which in a saner world we could read and take part in, and which would inform future Realms writing rather than being sprinted past as if by a rigidly forward-facing amnesiac, grown old unrealized before his time, bones cracking, teeth falling from dried-up gums.
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The Sage
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Hmmm... I've got a couple of juicy choices floating around in my head.

The one that immediately comes to mind though is -- Impiltur, A year in the life of the Velimbrar line of succession.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus

Manshoon Wars - with associated areas
[I should learn how to read properly!]



That would be an interesting book or series indeed!

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Hmmm... I've got a couple of juicy choices floating around in my head.

The one that immediately comes to mind though is -- Impiltur, A year in the life of the Velimbrar line of succession.



Don't know much about that area at all, but I would love to have a chance to!

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Hawkins
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Posted - 14 Jul 2008 :  22:22:01  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would like to either see the Manshoon Wars (preferable written by Steven Schend) or something along the lines of the fall of Imaskar (not sure if have a preferred writer for this one, though I definitely wouldn't cry if it was Elaine or Ed ).

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I“d like to see Ed flesh out the story of Gondegal, the "Lost King" (DR 1352).
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Brian R. James
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I would really love to read a novel or trilogy even! about the rise of the Dark Three and their quest for divinity.

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Markustay
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All great ideas.

I would personally enjoy a trilogy about the fall of the three Netherease survivor states - Anauria, Asram, and Hlondath (One for each novel!)

And another about the three periods of Imaskari history - I just can't get enough of that 'old time lore'.

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Theophilus
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Posted - 15 Jul 2008 :  05:39:39  Show Profile  Visit Theophilus's Homepage Send Theophilus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Life of Halaster Blackcloak - Waterdeep, Undermountain etc - would be an interesting read.
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scererar
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I would really love to read a novel or trilogy even! about the rise of the Dark Three and their quest for divinity.



I too would love to see a novel or three on this topic.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus

Life of Halaster Blackcloak - Waterdeep, Undermountain etc - would be an interesting read.

That'd be a massive novel. I think sometimes people forget at times that Hilather/Halaster is older by at least a century or two over Elminster, and his history's still not covered after 5 novels. I shudder to think what it'd take to do Halaster justice [or if it's even possible to attempt a story from his POV -- at least six POVs simultaneously across Undermountain]. Still, it could be a great experiment in nonlinear narrative, that.

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Theophilus
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus

Life of Halaster Blackcloak - Waterdeep, Undermountain etc - would be an interesting read.

That'd be a massive novel. I think sometimes people forget at times that Hilather/Halaster is older by at least a century or two over Elminster, and his history's still not covered after 5 novels. I shudder to think what it'd take to do Halaster justice [or if it's even possible to attempt a story from his POV -- at least six POVs simultaneously across Undermountain]. Still, it could be a great experiment in nonlinear narrative, that.




I never said it could be done, rather that it would be something I'd like to see!
Still, I'm taken with the idea of multiple and nonlinear narratives - great subject matter for it.
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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I would really love to read a novel or trilogy even! about the rise of the Dark Three and their quest for divinity.



Hate to seem obtuse, but oh well.....WHo are/were the Dark Three?

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Quale

Bane, Myrkul, Bhaal





So they started their "careers" as mortals?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Quale

Bane, Myrkul, Bhaal





So they started their "careers" as mortals?




Yep, and gambled Jerghal for his divinity (split in three) and Jerghal "lost", rumor has it he was tired of his job.


As to what stories I'd like to see:

-the entire Fall of Myth Drannor affair, preferably written by Troy Denning cuz I just know he can
-the Return of Bane, preferably written by Jim Lowder cuz he got the gods right
-the Crusade to reclaim Shanatar, written by (whoever did the Dragonlance Dwarven Nations trilogy) cuz he can do dwarves properly

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

- I just can't get enough of that 'old time lore'.
I 110% agree. Even before the announcement of 4e and the Shattered Realms I was longing for more Realms novels set at significant points of history. As fun as it is to read in a supplement, I feel as if I can interact with it more when written in novel form (especially if the writing is at the caliber of excellence that most [sadly not all ] Realms authors exude).

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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Realmslore swells with tantalizing hints of adventures, heroes and legendary names of the early and mid-14th century DR. Ed Greenwood's highly condensed Knights trilogy and Eric Boyd's articles on Mintiper Moonsilver are some of the first inroads into a corpus of tale and legend central to the bardic lore and adventuring culture of Faerūn which we must imagine from cursory summaries and allusions but which in a saner world we could read and take part in, and which would inform future Realms writing rather than being sprinted past as if by a rigidly forward-facing amnesiac, grown old unrealized before his time, bones cracking, teeth falling from dried-up gums.



Well said, to say the least.

I'd love to answer this question, but I can't think of any one specific place I'd want to see more novels take place in. I like all the Realms, and I wouldn't mind being pleasantly surprised to learn that a novel was being set in a place I didn't even think about.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

I'd love to answer this question, but I can't think of any one specific place I'd want to see more novels take place in. I like all the Realms, and I wouldn't mind being pleasantly surprised to learn that a novel was being set in a place I didn't even think about.



I feel the same, as long as it wouild be pre-spellplague!

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Quale

Bane, Myrkul, Bhaal





So they started their "careers" as mortals?




Yep, and gambled Jerghal for his divinity (split in three) and Jerghal "lost", rumor has it he was tired of his job.


As to what stories I'd like to see:

-the entire Fall of Myth Drannor affair, preferably written by Troy Denning cuz I just know he can
-the Return of Bane, preferably written by Jim Lowder cuz he got the gods right
-the Crusade to reclaim Shanatar, written by (whoever did the Dragonlance Dwarven Nations trilogy) cuz he can do dwarves properly



And Jerghal is now Kelemvor's seneschal? He must have been a mighty one indeed, that would be an interesting story for sure!

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Theophilus
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Thay's split from Mulhorand with a little bit about Thayd (the founder?).

(War, intrigue, magic, religion - would also be an interesting read IMHO.)
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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus

Thay's split from Mulhorand with a little bit about Thayd (the founder?).

(War, intrigue, magic, religion - would also be an interesting read IMHO.)



There is just a tad (not much at all) in chapter 2 of The Crimson Gold.

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