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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
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 Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 01:18:32
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I was thinking that since Ed is creating the major parts of Toril outside of Faerun, maybe he will provide us with his vision of Anchorome in the 4e version of the FRCS. Since i won't be involved in that part of the world before august, i'm tempted to wait and use what will be produced for that supplement. As far as we know, this part of the world might just be as Ed envisioned it in his homebrew campaign. I'm sure it is NDA right now but it's something he may be able to answer when the FRCS comes out next month.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2008 : 22:11:47
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Yes, I will be waiting for the 4e 'update' to the western continents as well, before I proceed with them. As far as I know, both Kara-Tur and Zakhara are still there and pretty much the same so they are 'safe' for now.
Although one would think all the changes made to Elemental beings would have heavily effected Zakhara (at least some of the history, and the way Djinn magic works).
Then again, Kara-Tur had a rather large elemental traditional as well (Shugenja, for instance), not to mention that Dragons were also changed quite a bit. Also, Oriental mythology lends itself well to both the Shadowfel and the Feywild, so perhaps there will be greater changes there then I anticipate.
Still, the maps (hopefully) won't be as gretatly effected as they were in Faerūn. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2008 : 03:53:25
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Originally posted by Markustay
Yes, I will be waiting for the 4e 'update' to the western continents as well, before I proceed with them. As far as I know, both Kara-Tur and Zakhara are still there and pretty much the same so they are 'safe' for now.
Although one would think all the changes made to Elemental beings would have heavily effected Zakhara (at least some of the history, and the way Djinn magic works).
Then again, Kara-Tur had a rather large elemental traditional as well (Shugenja, for instance), not to mention that Dragons were also changed quite a bit. Also, Oriental mythology lends itself well to both the Shadowfel and the Feywild, so perhaps there will be greater changes there then I anticipate.
Still, the maps (hopefully) won't be as gretatly effected as they were in Faerūn.
Well, wouldn't they have suffered to some degree from the merging of Toril and Abeir |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2008 : 23:41:35
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As long as the 'Abeir' regions that appear in Kara-Tur don't have a bunch of super-powered martial artists firing 'Kamaha-maha' bombs, or a bunch of kids capturing monsters in little red and white balls, I'm good.  |
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Darkmeer
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 04:20:57
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Wow. Just wow. Both of you have done a bang up job. I'm really interested to see how this all turns out in the end. And Markus, I'd really be extatic if you'd post up a "work in Progress" for the whole world (heh, I know I'm dreaming there  )
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 17:54:16
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Hi,
I have almost finished the elevation lines for the main continent (Faerun, KaraTur and Al Kadim). Will probably be done at the end of the week. Next step will be to experiment with a few tools to get the relief effect for a 3d look. This should promise to be interesting. I'm working with Illustrator, Mapublisher, Photoshop and ArcGIS to accomplish this.
Will keep you posted :)
Pat |
Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
My site: http://www.patoumonde.com |
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 21:34:38
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Hello all,
I've pretty much finished the contour lines of the main continent. Here are the results: http://patoumonde.com/maps/Toril_progress_6.pdf
I'm far from done but it gives an idea of the final result i'm hoping to get. The relief effect will enhance it immensely i hope. I'm still analyzing some of the contour lines. Somehow, something is not right and i can't put my finger on the problem just yet.
I'll keep in touch anyway, for those that follow the adventure :)
Pat |
Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
My site: http://www.patoumonde.com |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 22:40:47
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| I really enjoy how you are showing us your progress stage-by-stage. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 00:28:35
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@Patrakis - Beautiful job - I'm really loving the RW look of the elevations.
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Originally posted by Darkmeer
And Markus, I'd really be extatic if you'd post up a "work in Progress" for the whole world (heh, I know I'm dreaming there )
I wish I could, but my DeviantART account appears to be down (or the virus I got the other day is still keeping me from accessing certain sites). 
Strange, because my photoshop account is also down... I wonder if I've been reported for 'plagerized content' again?
Well, whatever....
EDIT:LOL - it just came back up, so it wasn't anything bad (I get so paranoid sometimes) |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 22:43:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
As long as the 'Abeir' regions that appear in Kara-Tur don't have a bunch of super-powered martial artists firing 'Kamaha-maha' bombs, or a bunch of kids capturing monsters in little red and white balls, I'm good.
Voice of Tom Servo: Gymkata!
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Looking at "the other guy's" Fantasy Map page, I recall that I did a map for Clark Ashton Smith's Averoigne when Third Edition first came out, and I ran an adventure there (quickly learning that my monsters were far too underpowered for cunning players). If anyone is interested, I'll try to excavate it and send it out.
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 05:45:24
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Hello all,
Another little update on my quest to create a Toril map.
I've made some progress in importing my map in a program called Fractal Terrains PRO. With this i was able to create an animated gif of Toril and a version of my map that is begining to look like something i like :)
I'm pretty happy about the GIF since i never could make the FR Atlas one work in Windows XP. So to all those FR Fans who've dreaming of a spinning globe Toril...this is my GIF (gift :)) to you.
http://patoumonde.com/maps/Toril_progress_6_testing_stuff_10000_5000.jpg
http://patoumonde.com/maps/Torilspin.gif
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Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 06:07:17
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Very, VERY cool.  |
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 06:24:05
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I'm happy you like it. :)
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Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
My site: http://www.patoumonde.com |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 18:44:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis
Hello all,
Another little update on my quest to create a Toril map.
I've made some progress in importing my map in a program called Fractal Terrains PRO. With this i was able to create an animated gif of Toril and a version of my map that is begining to look like something i like :)
I'm pretty happy about the GIF since i never could make the FR Atlas one work in Windows XP. So to all those FR Fans who've dreaming of a spinning globe Toril...this is my GIF (gift :)) to you.
http://patoumonde.com/maps/Toril_progress_6_testing_stuff_10000_5000.jpg
http://patoumonde.com/maps/Torilspin.gif
Pat
Wow! You have just attained hero status with me! |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
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* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 19:33:12
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| Now that is impressive! Thanks Patrakis. |
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 21:47:06
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Wow's right! Way to go, Patrakis!
Watching the globe spin, I stand in awe of the massive size of Toril!! |
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 21:54:34
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Hey thanks guyz. I'm very happy you like it. I greatly value the acceptance of what i do by the community of Candlekeep. For me there is no higher test...except for Mr Greenwood. But i doubt he'll ever see what i did with his world.
I'm far from done though :)
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Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2008 : 23:33:52
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Yes, that spinning globe is neat. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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IngoDjan
Learned Scribe
Brazil
146 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 03:54:04
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| Well done Patrakis! Nice work! |
Ingo Djan
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 01:41:09
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That was an intersting piece of information Jamallo. In fact, that is more important for me at work than for my RPGs. Thanks :)
Pat |
Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
My site: http://www.patoumonde.com |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2008 : 11:05:49
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The maps are really nice and your walkthrough for CC3 is much better (for my style) as the one ProFantasy offers. The real difficulty seems to be organizing the work, but once you develop a system for that it should be relatively easy to do. Knowing me I will take some time organizing myself (I only dabbled in CC3 a bit and gave up somewhat), since I am thinking about trying to get a certain color for a certain eleveation level for mountains and so on. This seems "systematically correct" to one part of my brain, but another says its impractical because there are different sizes of maps and the "color graduation" would not work well then for either large or small scale maps.
Using / presenting such maps may become a bit easier since I recently learned that Adobe Acrobat has added new capabilities in the newest version: importing a lot of CAD formats and even including tools for handling (zoom, scale, cut views, walkthroughs, ...) so we might be able to have these maps as PDF versions with added buttons to hide / show "DM layers", zoom in and out and whatever. Only the creator will need the full Acrobat version and then allows these tools for users with just the Acrobat Reader. |
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 16 Aug 2008 : 01:14:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis
That was an intersting piece of information Jamallo. In fact, that is more important for me at work than for my RPGs. Thanks :)
Pat
You're quite welcome. I apologize for not replying sooner. My internet connection went downhill fast after the Chino earthquake.
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Patrakis
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 01:36:19
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It looks a lot like the previous one at first glance but the fact is, i've redrawn all the contour lines and added 7 new levels of elevation. I've also simplified the lines to show less details on a world map. The previous one had so much detail, the size of the file wasn't managable.
I hope i'll be able to present a more finished look when next i post.
http://patoumonde.com/picturepro//albums/userpics/10001/Toril_Topo_3.pdf
Pat |
Dancing is like standing still, but faster.
My site: http://www.patoumonde.com |
Edited by - Patrakis on 02 Oct 2009 19:53:23 |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 01:40:06
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| Yay! Another update! |
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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 17:10:53
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Looking Good. 
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Originally posted by Patrakis
The previous one had so much detail, the size of the file wasn't managable.
LOL - I hear you.
It takes about ten minutes for my main 'world' file to open in PS, and I have pretty fast computer. The layers really bog the thing down after awhile, so I had to break the world up into smaller, more managable pieces. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 05:32:17
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Awesome work, Patrakis! Esp. the globe! To both you and Markustay: I second the opinion of HawkinsTheDM, and would very much like to see the 3.5E Toril map completed. As far as I'm concerned, canon ends at somewhere between 1374 and 1377 DR, depending on which gods and other major figures you want to kill off. I'm keeping some events and tossing others, with the throw-away increasing dramatically as I get closer to 1385 DR. There have been some very interesting alternate timelines coming out lately. Either way, everybody I game with wants to keep the 3.5 rule set, with a possible switch to Pathfinder once we have time to playtest the beta, so that means no RSE needed here.
Again, to both you and Mark: Keep the Real in the Realms, and give us the Toril we know and love. We all appreciate all your hard work, and it seems unthinkable to redo everything now just because Wizbro decided to blow everything up. Even if you accept the 4E Realms canon, you still have ten years game time before Mystra commits suicide (because that's the only way I can explain it). Given what 4E does to wizards, I'm not surprised that the gods of magic are all dead... although wizards are going to need their prayers in 4E more than ever. Just my thoughts on the new game. BTW: Does anyone want to buy a like-new set of 4E core books? |
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