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Alenis
Acolyte
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 Posted - 17 Jun 2013 : 06:39:05
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Originally posted by coach
The ‘Hermit’ [great wyrm corpse tearer linnorn cleric] (Ruin p41,44-58)
a. Colossal size (Ruin p44)
b. Priest of unnamed deity, power behind darkness and undeath (Ruin p56)
c. Over 25,000 years old (Ruin p51-58)
d. Sage of ancient kingdoms (Ruin p58)
Coach, that's right, I nearly forgot about him. He supposedly was alive during the first Rage of the Dragons (that wound up destroying their empires). That would make him pretty old; when was the Dragon Rage Mythal created, -25,000 DR or so? |
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Ze
Learned Scribe
Italy
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Posted - 17 Jun 2013 : 12:05:20
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So, summing it up, it looks like:
- Iakhovas - He supposedly left the oceans of Toril at the very start of the Days of Thunder (-35000 DR), but he was already old before then
- The Teraseer/King Oreme - around -33800 DR.
- Bazim-Gorag - around -31000 DR
- The ‘Hermit’ [great wyrm corpse tearer linnorn cleric] (Ruin p41,44-58) - Over 25,000 years old
- Araumycos - unknown - at least since -20000/-15000 DR but probably older
If one was looking for some old being to ask about ancient lore, his best bet would be the Terraseer, but 1) the OP would rather not have Sarrukhs, and 2) good luck with that anyway.
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Razz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jun 2013 : 22:56:07
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I'm sure there are all kinds of non-divine beings native to the Realms who have yet to make their presence known. The Sarrukh are a good call, though I suspect the oldest living/surviving being is some kind of aboleth or other aberration.
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Having searched on information about Larloch I found this on Forgotten Realms Wiki:
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Having survived the cataclysm that resulted from the death of Mystryl, Larloch values the goddess of magic—and the Weave she protects—very highly. Probably the only thing that could draw him out of his studies would be an imminent threat to Mystra or the Weave.
If this is canon, some recent developments in the reams are making even less sense.  This could have been so much fun: Larloch vs. Cyric trying to invade Dweomerheart ...
One more missed opportunity.
Oh, I don't know--just because he has reasons to WANT to do something about it doesn't mean he CAN.
I mean, if the *gods* couldn't stop Cyric, then why would Larloch have any more success? Whatever the Prince of Lies did in Dweomerheart, it must have been a doozy.
Though I certainly agree: Larloch vs. Cyric (avatar, anyway) would be a cool fight.
As for the non-avatar, the real deal, deity-in-the-flesh, which Cyric would probably have to be to kill Mystra . . . as mighty as Larloch is, I have no doubt that full-power Cyric could dust him. Because if he couldn't, and Larloch can beat greater deities, then why is uber-lich not a greater deity himself?
Cheers
Well I saw on another thread that Szass Tam used magic to bind Bane (of all deities, wow) and it is known Larloch is by far much more powerful and resourceful than Szass Tam, so wouldn't that mean Larloch should easily have been able to bind Cyric somehow? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 12:26:26
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What applies to X may not apply to Y, especially when we’re talking about gods. I have nothing but respect for Szass Tam, but it’s still possible that Bane might have simply pretended to be bound so he could hear what the ambitious, insolent lich had to offer. Or perhaps the collapse of the Weave affected him so much that breaking the magical cage would cost him more harm than was actually necessary. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 12:42:29
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The Eldest is a good candidate. If I am remembering it right, in The Abolethic Sovereignty trilogy, he was said to be older (and more powerful) than Ao himself. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 19:50:11
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go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 20:17:29
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| leShay claim to predate the current multiverse and refer darkly to some catastrophe that not only wiped out most of their people but changed time so that their era never existed, even in the remotest past. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 20:50:50
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| The history of toril is fairly tiny.comparing it to our history of billions of years.was there a specific reason for this. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 21:24:46
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Originally posted by Razz
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I'm sure there are all kinds of non-divine beings native to the Realms who have yet to make their presence known. The Sarrukh are a good call, though I suspect the oldest living/surviving being is some kind of aboleth or other aberration.
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Having searched on information about Larloch I found this on Forgotten Realms Wiki:
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Having survived the cataclysm that resulted from the death of Mystryl, Larloch values the goddess of magic—and the Weave she protects—very highly. Probably the only thing that could draw him out of his studies would be an imminent threat to Mystra or the Weave.
If this is canon, some recent developments in the reams are making even less sense. This could have been so much fun: Larloch vs. Cyric trying to invade Dweomerheart ...
One more missed opportunity.
Oh, I don't know--just because he has reasons to WANT to do something about it doesn't mean he CAN.
I mean, if the *gods* couldn't stop Cyric, then why would Larloch have any more success? Whatever the Prince of Lies did in Dweomerheart, it must have been a doozy.
Though I certainly agree: Larloch vs. Cyric (avatar, anyway) would be a cool fight.
As for the non-avatar, the real deal, deity-in-the-flesh, which Cyric would probably have to be to kill Mystra . . . as mighty as Larloch is, I have no doubt that full-power Cyric could dust him. Because if he couldn't, and Larloch can beat greater deities, then why is uber-lich not a greater deity himself?
Cheers
Well I saw on another thread that Szass Tam used magic to bind Bane (of all deities, wow) and it is known Larloch is by far much more powerful and resourceful than Szass Tam, so wouldn't that mean Larloch should easily have been able to bind Cyric somehow?
Bane could have slain Tamm and escaped, it was just less bothersome to talk with him instead.
Anyway, even what Tam was able to do was way to much for a mortal to do to a greater deity
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Originally posted by Dennis
The Eldest is a good candidate. If I am remembering it right, in The Abolethic Sovereignty trilogy, he was said to be older (and more powerful) than Ao himself.
He's old, but not that powerful. In the trilogy he was called a being comparable to demigod power |
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silverwolfer
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 23:24:59
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Originally posted by Alenis
How about Iakhovas, the megaladon/were-shark/ whatever he was who instigated the Twelfth Seros War? He supposedly left the oceans of Toril at the very start of the Days of Thunder, but he was already old before then, hunting with a young Sekolah and having Umberlee fall in love with him.
In dragon 255, he was killed by a pally of lathander named Jherek.
Soujuner Died during the rain of fire
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jun 2013 : 14:13:34
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Originally posted by swifty
Who is the eldest
The leader of Xxiphu, the newly returned city of the ancient aboleths. |
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