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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 14 May 2012 :  05:39:10  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have a list they have compiled they can place here that can be updated so that everyone can keep track of all the things published for Golarion?

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I dont think so DD...

I had a chance to buy the new Undermountain book, or Lost Cities of Golarion, and Dungeons of Golarion (Mostly for the write up on Gallowspire!), and I am not ashamed to say I bought the Pathfinder Books.

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Markustay
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Does anyone have a list they have compiled they can place here that can be updated so that everyone can keep track of all the things published for Golarion?


I wonder if there is a Golarion-version of Candelkeep (the in-game library) - I would think there should be, and that there should also be a version of US in an online version, that keeps track of this sort of stuff. I think it would be weird if Candlekeep started doing 'candlekeep stuff' with Paizo/PF/Golarion material.


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There are a few sides, as the Pathfinder Wiki, which is the premier address for all things Pathfinder, the Pathfinder Chronicler which is a collection of fan fiction, the Pathfinder database, the official reference document, the other reference document, containing even 3rd party material.

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Posted - 15 May 2012 :  20:37:35  Show Profile Send idilippy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Does anyone have a list they have compiled they can place here that can be updated so that everyone can keep track of all the things published for Golarion?


I wonder if there is a Golarion-version of Candelkeep (the in-game library) - I would think there should be, and that there should also be a version of US in an online version, that keeps track of this sort of stuff. I think it would be weird if Candlekeep started doing 'candlekeep stuff' with Paizo/PF/Golarion material.




I think the closest thing that Golarion has in game would be the Pathfinder Society's(an in character term, not the pathfinder society organized play) Grand Lodge in Absalom, the largest city on Golarion. They have a place called the Repository, where 66 toungeless prisoners(a bit harsher system for caretakers than the monks of Candlekeep) transcribe all records sent back from Pathfinders under a gaes. The Grand Lodge is supposed to hold tons of books, reports, and artifacts sent back from Pathfinders, and would probably be the closest thing to Candlekeep in volume of stored knowledge.

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The Sage
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Okay, so I've been looking at getting into the PATHFINDER subscriptions again.

I have a rough idea of how they work, but I'd appreciate some info from those who already partake of these services, providing some insight into monthly and yearly expenses -- and just which of the subscription services you have.

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Wooly Rupert
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You sign up for a subscription. When the product comes out, they ship it to you. When it ships, you can download the pdf for free. And it's unlimited downloads.

You pay cover price plus shipping. But, if you get the Adventure Path subscription, it's 30% off of those titles, and 15% off on everything else.

They ship your stuff once a month, and one of the options you have, if buying something else from them, is to put it in the "sidecart" and have it ship with the next subscription shipment.

Me, I've got the Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Pathfinder Player Companion, and Pathfinder Tales subscriptions. And the last one includes eBooks, too.

And they do ship worldwide.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 16 May 2012 :  18:19:36  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What Wooly said...

...even down to which subscriptions I have going on.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Does anyone have a list they have compiled they can place here that can be updated so that everyone can keep track of all the things published for Golarion?



Adventure Path
Rise of the Runelords
Burnt Offerings - by James Jacobs
The Skinsaw Murders - by Richard Pett
The Hook Mountain Massacre - by Nicolas Logue
Fortress of the Stone Giants - by Wolfgang Baur
Sins of the Saviors - by Stephen S Greer
Spires of Xin-Shalast - by Greg A. Vaughan

Curse of the Crimson Throne
Edge of Anarchy - by Nicolas Logue
Seven Days to the Grave - by F. Wesley Schneider
Escape from Old Korvosa - by Richard Pett
A History of Ashes - Michael Kortes
Skeletons of Scarwall - by Greg A. Vaughan
Crown of Fangs - by Tito Leati

Second Darkness
Shadow in the Sky - by Greg A. Vaughan
Children of the Void - by Mike McArtor
The Armageddon Echo - by Jason Bulmahn
Endless Night - by F. Wesley Schneider
A Memory of Darkness - by J. D. Wiker
Descent into Midnight - by Brian Cortijo

Legacy of Fire
Howl of the Carrion King - by Erik Mona
House of the Beast - by Tim Hitchcock
The Jackal’s Price - by Darrin Drader
The End of Eternity - by Jason Nelson
The Impossible Eye - by Greg A Vaughan
The Final Wish - by Rob McCreary

Council of Thieves
The Bastards of Erebus - by Sean K Reynolds
The Sixfold Trial - by Richard Pett
What Lies in Dust - by Michael Kortes
The Infernal Syndrome - by Clinton Boomer and James Jacobs
Mother of Flies - by Greg A Vaughan
The Twice-Damned Prince - by Brian Cortijo and James Jacobs

Kingmaker
Stolen Land - by Tim Hitchcock
Rivers Run Red - by Rob McCreary
The Varnhold Vanishing - Greg A. Vaughan
Blood for Blood - by Neil Spicer
War of the River Kings - by Jason Nelson
Sound of a Thousand Screams - by Richard Pett

Serpent's Skull
Souls for Smuggler’s Shiv - by James Jacobs
Racing to Ruin - by Tim Hitchcock
City of Seven Spears - by James Jacobs, Rob McCreary, and Kevin Kulp
Vaults of Madness - by Greg A Vaughan
Sanctum of the Serpent God - by Graeme Davis
Thousand Fangs Below - by Neil Spicer

Carrion Crown
Haunting of Harrowstone - by Michael Kortes
Trial of the Beast - by Richard Pett
Broken Moon - by Tim Hitchcock
Wake of the Watcher - by Greg A Vaughan
Ashes at Dawn - by Neil Spicer
Shadows of Gallowspire - by Brandon Hodge

Jade Regent
The Brinewall Legacy - by James Jacobs
Night of Frozen Shadows - by Greg A Vaughan
The Hungry Storm - by Jason Nelson
Forest of Spirits - by Richard Pett
Tide of Honor - by Tito Leati
The Empty Throne - by Neil Spicer

Skull & Shackles
The Wormwood Mutiny - by Richard Pett
Raiders of the Fever Sea - by Greg A Vaughan

Modules
Hollow’s Last Hope - by Jason Bulmahn and F. Wesley Schneider
Crown of the Kobold King - by Nicolas Logue
Conquest of Bloodsworn Vale -
Seven Swords of Sin -
Gallery of Evil - by Stephen S. Greer
Entombed with the Pharaohs - by Michael Kortes
Carnival of Tears -
Into the Haunted Forest -
Guardians of Dragonfall -
Hangman’s Noose - by Nicolas Logue
Crucible of Chaos - by Wolfgang Baur
The Demon Within -
River into Darkness -
Flight of the Red Raven - by David Schwartz
Revenge of the Kobold King - by Nicolas Logue
Tower of the Last Baron - Stephen S. Greer
Treasure of Chimera Cove - by Anson Caralya
Hungry are the Dead - by Tim Hitchcock
The Pactstone Pyramid - by Michael Kortes
Clash of the Kingslayers - Leandra Christine Schneider (RPG Superstar 2008 winner)
Blood of Dragonscar -
Beyond the Vault of Souls - by Colin McComb
Crypt of the Everflame - by Jason Bulmahn
Carrion Hill - by Richard Pett
Masks of the Living God - by Jason Bulmahn
Realm of the Fellnight Queen - by Neil Spicer (RPG Superstar 2009 winner)
City of Golden Death - by Joshua J Frost
From Shore to Sea - by Brandon Hodge
Master of the Fallen Fortress - by Rob McCreary
Curse of the Riven Sky - by Monte Cook
The Witchwar Legacy - by Greg A Vaughan
The Godsmouth Heresy - by Rob McCreary
The Harrowing - by Crystal Frasier
We Be Goblins - by Richard Pett
Academy of Secrets - by Brian Cortijo
Tomb of the Iron Medusa - by Mike Shel
Cult of the Ebon Destroyers - by Matthew Goodall (RPH Superstar 2010 winner)
Feast of Ravenmoor - by James Jacobs
The Ruby Phoenix Tournament - by Tim Hitchcock
The Midnight Mirror - by Sam Zeitlin (RPG Superstar 2011 winner)
No Response from Deepmar

Campaign Setting
Rise of the Runelords Map Folio - Maps by Rob Lazzaretti
Guide to Korvosa - by Mike McArtot
Classic Monsters Revisited - by Several People
Pathfinder Chronicles Gazetteer -
Guide to Darkmoon Vale - by Mike McArtor
Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting - by Loads O'Folks
Curse of the Crimson Throne Map Folio - maps by Robert Lazzaretti
Gods & Magic - by Sean K Reynolds
Into the Darklands -
Guide to Absalom - by Owen K.C. Stephens
Second Darkness Map Folio -
Dragons Revisited -
Dark Markets - by Stephen S. Greer and Amber Scott
The Great Beyond - by Todd Stewart
Dungeon Denizens Revisited
Legacy of Fire Map Folio
Book of the Damned 1 – Princes of Darkness - by F. Wesley Schneider
Seekers of Secrets - by Tim Hitchcock, Erik Mona, James L. Sutter, and Russ Taylor
Cities of Golarion - by Joshua J. Frost, Tim Hitchcock, Jonathan Keith, Rob McCreary, Jason Nelson, and Jeff Quick
Cities of Golarion Map Folio
Classic Horrors Revisited
Guide to the River Kingdoms - by China Miéville, Elaine Cunningham, Chris Pramas, Steve Kenson, and 18 others
NPC Guide - by Hal Maclean, Jeff Quick, John Wick, and 14 others
Classic Treasures Revisited
Faction Guide - by Joshua J. Frost, Jason Nelson, Sean K Reynolds, and 8 others
Heart of the Jungle
City of Strangers - by James L. Sutter
Misfit Monsters Redeemed
Book of the Damned 2: Lords of Chaos - by James Jacobs
Kingmaker Map Folio
Council of Thieves Map Folio
Lost Cities of Golarion
Serpents Skull Map Folio
Inner Sea World Guide
Inner Sea Poster Map Folio - by Robert Lazzaretti
Rule of Fear - by F. Wesley Schneider
Rival Guide - by Brian Cortijo, Adam Daigle, Tim Hitchcock, Brandon Hodge, Colin McComb, Jason Nelson, Amber Scott, Neil Spicer, and Todd Stewart
Undead Revisited - by Eric Cagle, Brian Cortijo, Brandon Hodge, Steve Kenson, Hal Maclean, Colin McComb, Jason Nelson, Todd Stewart, and Russ Taylor
Dungeons of Golarion - by Jason Bulmahn, Matthew Goodall, Brandon Hodge, Anthony Pryor, and Mike Shel
Pathfinder Society Field Guide - by Erik Mona, Mark Moreland, Russ Taylor, and Larry Wilhelm
Carrion Crown Map Folio - by Robert Lazzaretti
Inner Sea Magic - by Jesse Benner, Jason Nelson, Sean K Reynolds, Owen K.C. Stephens, and Russ Taylor
Lands of the Linnorm Kings - by Matthew Goodall, Jonathan Keith, Colin McComb, and Rob McCreary
Book of the Damned 3: Horsemen of the Apocalypse - by Todd Stewart
Dragon Empires Gazetteer - by James Jacobs, Dave Gross, Rob McCreary, and 8 others
Mythological Monsters Revisited - by Jesse Benner, Jonathan H. Keith, Michael Kenway, Jason Nelson, Anthony Pryor, and Greg A. Vaughan
Jade Regent Poster Map Folio - by Robert Lazzaretti
Distant Worlds - by James L. Sutter
Isles of the Shackles - by Mike Shel
Giants Revisited - by Jesse Benner, Ryan Costello Jr, Brian R. James, Jason Nelson, Russ Taylor, and Ray Vallese

Player Companions
Second Darkness Player Companion
Elves of Golarion - by Jeff Quick, Hal Maclean, and Sean K Reynolds
Osirion, Land of Pharaohs - by Jason Nelson and Todd Stewart
Legacy of Fire Player Companion - by Brian Cortijo, Stephen S. Greer, James Jacobs, Jonathan H. Keith, F. Wesley Schneider, Amber E. Scott, and James L. Sutter
Taldor, Echoes of Glory - by Joshua J. Frost
Qadira, Gateway to the East - by Brian Cortijo
Cheliax, Empire of Devils - by Jonathan H. Keith, Colin McComb, Steven E. Schend, Leandra Christine Schneider, and Amber E. Scott
Dwarves of Golarion - by David A. Eitelbach, Russ Taylor, JD Wiker, Keri Wiker, and Hank Woon
Andoran, Spirit of Liberty - by Hal Maclean, Colin Moulder-McComb, Jason Nelson, Jonathan Keith, and Hank Woon
Adventurer’s Armoury
Gnomes of Golarion - by Hal Maclean, Colin McComb, Mark Moreland, Jeff Quick, Sean K Reynolds, Steven Schend, and Owen K.C. Stephens
Sargava, the Lost Colony - by JD Wiker
Orcs of Golarion - by Steve Kenson, Rob McCreary, Richard Pett, Sean K Reynolds, and JD Wiker
Inner Sea Primer - by Colin McComb
Faiths of Balance - by Colin McComb
Humans of Golarion - by James Jacobs, Colin McComb, Sean K Reynolds, Amber Scott, and Larry Wilhelm
Faiths of Purity - by Colin McComb
Halflings of Golarion - by Colin McComb
Goblins of Golarion - by James Jacobs, Hal Maclean, and Richard Pett
Faiths of Corruption - by Colin McComb
Dragon Empires Primer - by Tim Hitchcock and Colin McComb
Pirates of the Inner Sea - Amber E. Scott
Blood of Fiends - Hal Maclean and Colin McComb

Pathfinder Tales
Winter Witch - by Elaine Cunningham with Dave Gross
Prince of Wolves - by Dave Gross
Plague of Shadows - by Howard Andrew Jones
The Worldwound Gambit - by Robin D Laws
Master of Devils - by Dave Gross
Death's Heretic - by James L Sutter
Song of the Serpent - by Hugh Matthews (Matthew Hughs)
City of the Fallen Sky - by Tim Pratt

Not quite in order. And I sure as hell ain't gonna list all the Flipmats, Map packs, Item Card Decks, and so on...

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 16 May 2012 :  19:53:32  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Does anyone have a list they have compiled they can place here that can be updated so that everyone can keep track of all the things published for Golarion?





2007
Adventure Path
Burnt Offerings
The Skinsaw Murders
The Hook Mountain Massacre
Fortress of the Stone Giants

<SNIP>

Not quite in order - and it's missing one of the Second Darkness volumes (I'll go back and add that and reorganise the post to just go by product lines a bit later) as well as the Pathfinder Society Scenarios.



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Kajehase
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Posted - 17 May 2012 :  05:58:18  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're welcome.

Although - since they sell pdfs of all their books, you could just check their website.

(And keeping track of which ones I haven't got pdfs of yet is why I keep that list.)

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Markustay
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Posted - 17 May 2012 :  06:02:41  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
WOW

It looks like they may have surpassed FR.

And if we don't count reprinted-every-edition sources, then they surely did.

Imagine a game with one set of rules, and only the setting keeps growing and growing {sigh}

Anyhow, I may have been off-base with their online initiative - it appears it just might be a 'poor man's MORPG'. Damn shame - without the modding tools, its just another knock-off. Now that Diablo3 just came out (and I'm still HERE?!), I doubt this will get the traction they want. Its gonna be Eberron Online all over again.

If they marry it to a customizable game-table and world-scripting tool, then they'll have something. As is, I no longer have much excitement over it. I never bought any of the FR comp games, so why would I buy this? I don't want more toys, I want TOOLS.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 17 May 2012 :  06:55:33  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

You're welcome.

Although - since they sell pdfs of all their books, you could just check their website.

(And keeping track of which ones I haven't got pdfs of yet is why I keep that list.)



Aye, I could have looked and made my own list.

However, I'm a notoriously lazy bastard of epic proportions...and figured someone out there was wise/patient enough to accomplish what I never would.

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Can I just say that there's only one book out (so far) for the Skull & Shackles Pirate Adventure Path and I already want to run this for as many groups/people as possible??

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Our group has only run the first 3 parts of the Burnt Offerings AP but it was a lot of fun so far.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

WOW

It looks like they may have surpassed FR.

And if we don't count reprinted-every-edition sources, then they surely did.

Imagine a game with one set of rules, and only the setting keeps growing and growing {sigh}

Anyhow, I may have been off-base with their online initiative - it appears it just might be a 'poor man's MORPG'. Damn shame - without the modding tools, its just another knock-off. Now that Diablo3 just came out (and I'm still HERE?!), I doubt this will get the traction they want. Its gonna be Eberron Online all over again.

If they marry it to a customizable game-table and world-scripting tool, then they'll have something. As is, I no longer have much excitement over it. I never bought any of the FR comp games, so why would I buy this? I don't want more toys, I want TOOLS.


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If I wasn't already planning a Advanced Dungeons and Dragons campaign when the new/old books come out to be run in Greyhawk; I would sooooo be running my next campaign starting in Absalom.

It is actually the first city that I have felt came the closest to the feeling I used to get about Greyhawk City. Waterdeep was simply too overwhelming at times for me and wasn't "at the center of it all" as it were. I had better luck with Westgate as my Forgotten Realms Greyhawk City.

The ONLY drawback to Golarion for me is technology. It isn't a bad thing...just something I'm not used to in my fantasy games.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

If I wasn't already planning a Advanced Dungeons and Dragons campaign when the new/old books come out to be run in Greyhawk; I would sooooo be running my next campaign starting in Absalom.

It is actually the first city that I have felt came the closest to the feeling I used to get about Greyhawk City. Waterdeep was simply too overwhelming at times for me and wasn't "at the center of it all" as it were. I had better luck with Westgate as my Forgotten Realms Greyhawk City.

The ONLY drawback to Golarion for me is technology. It isn't a bad thing...just something I'm not used to in my fantasy games.



Well, most of that is in Numeria, and it's not even understood, there...

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

If I wasn't already planning a Advanced Dungeons and Dragons campaign when the new/old books come out to be run in Greyhawk; I would sooooo be running my next campaign starting in Absalom.

It is actually the first city that I have felt came the closest to the feeling I used to get about Greyhawk City. Waterdeep was simply too overwhelming at times for me and wasn't "at the center of it all" as it were. I had better luck with Westgate as my Forgotten Realms Greyhawk City.

The ONLY drawback to Golarion for me is technology. It isn't a bad thing...just something I'm not used to in my fantasy games.



Well, most of that is in Numeria, and it's not even understood, there...



Very true!

And I'm not against having tech in a fantasy game. One of my favorite generic 2e supplements was actually about an invasion by machines bent on the destruction of "bio-life" of all kinds. It was a really awesome game we played as a short one-off campaign to have the wizard teleport aboard a ship and take out a Bridge Crew!

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I think the Paizo guys took the best parts of Mystara, FR, and GH and combined them in a wonderful way, and just like FR, its big enough where you can just pick a corner and run the kind of game you want (ignoring all the rest... or not).

I just find there continent a bit boring - its been done before, numerous times. Currently I am working on an FR conversion to a new map, which I think will showcase how the 5e approach can be used (portable, 'use-anywhere' types of splats). Thats on the back-burner though - I need more practice with GIMP.

Anyhow, the main reason why I even thought about a conversion was because I felt exactly the way Dalor does about Waterdeep - its placement just isn't all that useful to me (which is why I used Greyhawk city on the SoFS in 2e, and then Sharn in 3e.

Maybe an earthquake/RSE in 5e that turns Proskur into a bustling Port would be good - the first 30% of the Tun River can become wider and navigable (considering the drop in sea level, something like this may have occurred already - the water should be rushing faster, cutting a wider and deeper channel near its mouth). On the other hand, a brand-new city (and seedy port-town) somewhere much closer to the swamp mat be the best choice for some centralized adventuring.

I may have to toy with that....

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Lankhmar works well too if you place it right.

...my problem is that I haven't found where I want to put it. I've had ideas; but the one place I think it fits best requires a LOT of ret-conning of Forgotten Realms history.

Close to the Red Wizards is good...and when the Old Grey Box came out I thought they were a PERFECT fit for the Fire Sorcerers of the East! So my favored spot for the city of Lankhmar is at the northern extreme of the Akanapeaks.

As for Golarion, I've considered kidnapping the city of Absalom and placing it in the Sea of Fallen Stars!

I think it would be an awesome central city for a campaign, and it is already an island City-State which could fit easily in the Pirate Isles. If you place it on an island (smaller of course) in the most eastern section of the Pirate Isles (north and west of Spandeliyon in Altumbel) it becomes a powerful center of trade as represented.

Instead of a God raising the city in the Forgotten Realms, we simply replace him with an Arcanist of Netheril who raised the city from the depths of the waters prior to The Fall. It is easy enough to mesh the city with the Forgotten Realms I think.

EDIT:

Instead of from Netheril...we could use an Imaskari or some other magical culture ancient enough for Absalom's four and a half thousand years of age.

The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me!

Edited by - Dalor Darden on 19 May 2012 18:54:36
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I placed Lankhmar where Sultim is - a semi-autonomous citystate on the far eastern side of the SoFS - but I never got to use it.

I think Sanctuary (from Thieves World) might be perfect for my River Tun source city. Freeport would also work. Something halfway between Cormyr and Darkhold would be perfect.


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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

WOW

It looks like they may have surpassed FR.

And if we don't count reprinted-every-edition sources, then they surely did.

Imagine a game with one set of rules, and only the setting keeps growing and growing {sigh}

Anyhow, I may have been off-base with their online initiative - it appears it just might be a 'poor man's MORPG'. Damn shame - without the modding tools, its just another knock-off. Now that Diablo3 just came out (and I'm still HERE?!), I doubt this will get the traction they want. Its gonna be Eberron Online all over again.

If they marry it to a customizable game-table and world-scripting tool, then they'll have something. As is, I no longer have much excitement over it. I never bought any of the FR comp games, so why would I buy this? I don't want more toys, I want TOOLS.


They may have in supplements (although Im not sure that is the case), but there is no way they have surpassed the Realms in sheer amount of lore. Not only from the sourcebooks, but the hundreds of novels as well. Also most of the Golarion supplements are only either 32 or 64 pages, and usually somewhat vague in their descriptions.

As a side note....you've never played (PC) Baldurs Gate!?

Edited by - Gambit on 27 May 2012 08:53:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Gambit

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

WOW

It looks like they may have surpassed FR.

And if we don't count reprinted-every-edition sources, then they surely did.

Imagine a game with one set of rules, and only the setting keeps growing and growing {sigh}

Anyhow, I may have been off-base with their online initiative - it appears it just might be a 'poor man's MORPG'. Damn shame - without the modding tools, its just another knock-off. Now that Diablo3 just came out (and I'm still HERE?!), I doubt this will get the traction they want. Its gonna be Eberron Online all over again.

If they marry it to a customizable game-table and world-scripting tool, then they'll have something. As is, I no longer have much excitement over it. I never bought any of the FR comp games, so why would I buy this? I don't want more toys, I want TOOLS.


They may have in supplements (although Im not sure that is the case), but there is no way they have surpassed the Realms in sheer amount of lore. Not only from the sourcebooks, but the hundreds of novels as well. Also most of the Golarion supplements are only either 32 or 64 pages, and usually somewhat vague in their descriptions.

As a side note....you've never played (PC) Baldurs Gate!?



I gotta agree. All of my FR source material (minus the 4E stuff, which I keep separate) spans two entire shelves on the bookcases in my computer room. All of my Golarion stuff, and all of my Pathfinder stuff, is on a single shelf in a smaller bookcase -- and that shelf also contains all of the mkII stuff I have for Warmachine and Hordes (both main rulebooks, Wrath, all of the Forces of Warmachine books, and the Minions book for Hordes). And there's enough space remaining on that shelf that I can keep adding to it for 6 months, I think.

There is a lot of material out for Golarion, but it's nowhere near as much as there is for the Realms. And while I am digging the Golarion stuff, they've yet to produce anything Volo-esque and make me truly love the setting the way I love the Realms.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gambit

As a side note....you've never played (PC) Baldurs Gate!?
Nope.

Wasn't a huge FR fan when those games were popular (a fan, but not a 'rabid fanboi' like I am now). Some of the very early D&D comp games were pretty abysmal, and I just never bothered with them later on. I figured if they weren't canon, they didn't matter.

Someone gave me a copy of Baldur's Gate II a couple years back, but it wouldn't run on my newer machine, otherwise I probably would have fired it up just for poops and giggles.

I even had a copy of the FR interactive atlas in my hands once, and put it back on the shelf. THAT decision I've always regretted. By the time I re-thought it and went back, they weren't selling them any more.

Anyhow, I tend to keep my comp gaming and my D&D separate.

It would probably surprise everyone to know I never bought any D&D comics either, even though I was a HUGE comics geek.

I don't like to mix my nerdoms.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Gambit

As a side note....you've never played (PC) Baldurs Gate!?
Nope.

Wasn't a huge FR fan when those games were popular (a fan, but not a 'rabid fanboi' like I am now). Some of the very early D&D comp games were pretty abysmal, and I just never bothered with them later on. I figured if they weren't canon, they didn't matter.

Someone gave me a copy of Baldur's Gate II a couple years back, but it wouldn't run on my newer machine, otherwise I probably would have fired it up just for poops and giggles.

Luckily for you, that can be remedied this year when the graphically updated Baldur's Gate enhanced editions come out. Trust me, it's worth it.
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Just picked up Lost Kingdoms.

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Wayfinder #7 is out and available for (free) download

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Lost Kingdoms, I expected more new information

Wayfinder looks great
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