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The Sage
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Posted - 29 Nov 2011 : 01:25:24
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quote: Originally posted by Shemmy
Is it considered gauche to pimp your own work on a relevant thread? Because Book of the Damned 3: Horsemen of the Apocalypse is out finally, and this is a book that I've been wanting to write for literally -years-.
Since there was never a Fiendish Codex III by WotC to cover the 'loths, there's enough homage here to some of the same tropes that it fills that notch. But given the difference between Paizo's daemons in Golarion's cosmos and the 1e-3.x yugoloths/daemons they're sufficiently different and distinct in terms of what cosmological niche they fill. Neither mercenaries nor ultimate masterminds of the Blood War, Paizo's daemons don't much care about the rest of the cosmos but they hate mortals and mortality with a zeal bordering upon the religious. Yet at the same time they're frequently fascinated and obsessed by how the soul works. Daemons are mortal life perverted and turned inwards, as if the universe saw what it had created and went mad, turning in on itself and hoping to end it all. They're the virus lurking in the flesh of the cosmos and its own multitude of Nidhoggs gnawing at the roots of the metaphorical world tree. They're the concept of death made manifest.
Regardless of the differences, I'm just glad this work has finally been released.
Which is my way of reminding myself that I need to pick up a copy. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Dec 2011 : 01:14:58
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Shemmy
Is it considered gauche to pimp your own work on a relevant thread? Because Book of the Damned 3: Horsemen of the Apocalypse is out finally, and this is a book that I've been wanting to write for literally -years-.
Since there was never a Fiendish Codex III by WotC to cover the 'loths, there's enough homage here to some of the same tropes that it fills that notch. But given the difference between Paizo's daemons in Golarion's cosmos and the 1e-3.x yugoloths/daemons they're sufficiently different and distinct in terms of what cosmological niche they fill. Neither mercenaries nor ultimate masterminds of the Blood War, Paizo's daemons don't much care about the rest of the cosmos but they hate mortals and mortality with a zeal bordering upon the religious. Yet at the same time they're frequently fascinated and obsessed by how the soul works. Daemons are mortal life perverted and turned inwards, as if the universe saw what it had created and went mad, turning in on itself and hoping to end it all. They're the virus lurking in the flesh of the cosmos and its own multitude of Nidhoggs gnawing at the roots of the metaphorical world tree. They're the concept of death made manifest.
Regardless of the differences, I'm just glad this work has finally been released.
Which is my way of reminding myself that I need to pick up a copy.
And I did.
Just time for a quick scan so far. Great applause for Apollyon, Shemmy. Great stuff!
Also, I sense a subtle Marvel Comics' Jocasta-vibe when I look at the imagery for the Crucidaemon. 
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Shemmy
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Posted - 04 Dec 2011 : 01:19:02
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
Just time for a quick scan so far. Great applause for Apollyon, Shemmy. Great stuff!
Glad that you like! :)
quote: Also, I sense a subtle Marvel Comics' Jocasta-vibe when I look at the imagery for the Crucidaemon. 
Heh, they actually had done the artwork for the crucidaemon for Bestiary 3 prior to my working on their details in BotD III, and I didn't have access to that other book when I was working on mine. So they ended up modifying my details slightly to fit the artwork, so I can't claim that one. |
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Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 14:59:04
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Kuje
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Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 05:21:37
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 06:12:30
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quote: Originally posted by Kuje
Surprised no one has mentioned the recent updates that came out this week, which is they are making comic books for Pathfinder.
Ding! That's struck my interest-bells.
Have they announced the publisher? [I'm assuming it will be IDW, since they're already publishing other D&D-related books under their borrowed license from WotC.] |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 07:27:07
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Kuje
Surprised no one has mentioned the recent updates that came out this week, which is they are making comic books for Pathfinder.
Ding! That's struck my interest-bells.
Have they announced the publisher? [I'm assuming it will be IDW, since they're already publishing other D&D-related books under their borrowed license from WotC.]
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 08:07:38
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quote: Originally posted by Hawkins
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Kuje
Surprised no one has mentioned the recent updates that came out this week, which is they are making comic books for Pathfinder.
Ding! That's struck my interest-bells.
Have they announced the publisher? [I'm assuming it will be IDW, since they're already publishing other D&D-related books under their borrowed license from WotC.]
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You should know what I'm like with time by now, Hawkins.
Besides, if you judge me purely by some of the hobbies I still obsess over, then you'll see I'm clearly stuck in the 1990's.  |
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Kajehase
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Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 15:08:34
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quote: Originally posted by Kuje
Surprised no one has mentioned the recent updates that came out this week, which is they are making comic books for Pathfinder.
Because the big release this week was Wayfinder #6, of course.  |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 16:24:56
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I'm interested in these comics, but I don't know that I'll read them... I just don't have any more interest in comics, at the moment. I even went to my local comic store, a couple months back, to pick up the new 52 (or whatever DC is calling it) relaunch of what was one of my favorite titles back in the day... And I enjoyed the book, but not enough to motivate back to Faces to get later issues.
I've bounced in and out of comics before, but at this particular time, I don't see myself getting back in any time soon.
I might read those Pathfinder comics if they have amazing artwork and a very interesting storyline... In my experience, most fantasy-based comics lack one or the other, and often both. Sojourn was one of the rare exceptions. Even my beloved DC/TSR comics weren't always all that. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Jan 2012 : 01:01:58
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I even went to my local comic store, a couple months back, to pick up the new 52 (or whatever DC is calling it) relaunch of what was one of my favorite titles back in the day... And I enjoyed the book, but not enough to motivate back to Faces to get later issues.
Which book was it, Wooly?
quote: I might read those Pathfinder comics if they have amazing artwork and a very interesting storyline... In my experience, most fantasy-based comics lack one or the other, and often both. Sojourn was one of the rare exceptions. Even my beloved DC/TSR comics weren't always all that.
I'll look into the Pathfinder comic book. I haven't read any of the modern D&D books published by IDW, but I'm always hearing good things about them. And Dynamite Entertainment is producing some of the best comic books on the market right now, so I'm curious to see what they can bring to the PATHFINDER-brand. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Jan 2012 : 06:03:05
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I even went to my local comic store, a couple months back, to pick up the new 52 (or whatever DC is calling it) relaunch of what was one of my favorite titles back in the day... And I enjoyed the book, but not enough to motivate back to Faces to get later issues.
Which book was it, Wooly?
Stormwatch. I came aboard just in time for the demise of the original Stormwatch, and I loved The Authority, up until Warren Ellis left, at which time the story quality dropped off dramatically. And Jack Hawksmoor is one of the niftiest character concepts, ever.
But the new one... It wasn't bad, but it didn't wow me, either.
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I might read those Pathfinder comics if they have amazing artwork and a very interesting storyline... In my experience, most fantasy-based comics lack one or the other, and often both. Sojourn was one of the rare exceptions. Even my beloved DC/TSR comics weren't always all that.
I'll look into the Pathfinder comic book. I haven't read any of the modern D&D books published by IDW, but I'm always hearing good things about them. And Dynamite Entertainment is producing some of the best comic books on the market right now, so I'm curious to see what they can bring to the PATHFINDER-brand.
I've heard similar good things, but never made it into Faces to check them out. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Jan 2012 : 07:09:52
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Stormwatch. I came aboard just in time for the demise of the original Stormwatch, and I loved The Authority, up until Warren Ellis left, at which time the story quality dropped off dramatically. And Jack Hawksmoor is one of the niftiest character concepts, ever.
The new book is quite a departure from the original Image/Wildstorm Stormwatch -- character-wise. And I'm not sure about the inclusion of Martian Manhunter in their ranks either. I mean, I love the character, but I'm not yet convinced that he's really needed in this new world-wide organisation.
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Kuje
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Posted - 09 Jan 2012 : 17:52:12
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quote: Originally posted by Hawkins
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
quote: Originally posted by Kuje
Surprised no one has mentioned the recent updates that came out this week, which is they are making comic books for Pathfinder.
Ding! That's struck my interest-bells.
Have they announced the publisher? [I'm assuming it will be IDW, since they're already publishing other D&D-related books under their borrowed license from WotC.]
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Indeed, or you know, their Facebook page. :) Silly Sage, there's no excuse! :)
And I have to ask the comic guy to add the comics to my list next time I swing by the shop. Eh, I still half the collection from the old Magic the Gathering comics back when Ice Age was the new "expansion" |
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The Sage
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Posted - 10 Jan 2012 : 01:22:02
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quote: Originally posted by Kuje
Indeed, or you know, their Facebook page. :) Silly Sage, there's no excuse! :)
I think I've got them on Facebook. Need to double check that.
quote: And I have to ask the comic guy to add the comics to my list next time I swing by the shop. Eh, I still half the collection from the old Magic the Gathering comics back when Ice Age was the new "expansion"
I'm already subscribing to a few books from DE, so I just need to add this to my current listing. |
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Jakk
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 19:46:14
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My inner Spelljammer freak (and Norse berserkr) has been satisfied... yesterday my copy of Distant Worlds and Lands of the Linnorm Kings arrived, along with the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, Bestiary 3, and a couple of other titles... but the first two have been the most eagerly anticipated by me. In fact, I'm starting to wonder why I'm sitting at my computer when there's reading to be done...  |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 20:07:04
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quote: Originally posted by Jakk
My inner Spelljammer freak (and Norse berserkr) has been satisfied... yesterday my copy of Distant Worlds and Lands of the Linnorm Kings arrived, along with the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, Bestiary 3, and a couple of other titles... but the first two have been the most eagerly anticipated by me. In fact, I'm starting to wonder why I'm sitting at my computer when there's reading to be done... 
I'm grooving on Distant Worlds, myself. I was just reading the pdf on my lunch break, in fact! |
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The Sage
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Jakk
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Posted - 01 Mar 2012 : 01:27:03
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
I forgot Distant Worlds was just released.
Need to rectify that immediately.
Have you remembered yet? 
Apparently, your "to-do list" has gotten the better of you again.  |
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The Sage
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Posted - 01 Mar 2012 : 01:59:40
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quote: Originally posted by Jakk
quote: Originally posted by The Sage
I forgot Distant Worlds was just released.
Need to rectify that immediately.
Have you remembered yet? 
Apparently, your "to-do list" has gotten the better of you again. 
I did remember, yes, but then learned that I had other stuff to purchase first.
I'll try for these PDFs over the weekend. [Though, I really need to better organise myself for the PATHFINDER subscriptions, so I don't miss out on further new releases.] |
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Jakk
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Posted - 01 Mar 2012 : 02:07:29
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
I did remember, yes, but then learned that I had other stuff to purchase first.
I'll try for these PDFs over the weekend. [Though, I really need to better organise myself for the PATHFINDER subscriptions, so I don't miss out on further new releases.]
I'd thought about subscribing, but at the time the line was launched, I didn't have a lot of spare income, and now I manage my product tracking and purchasing with an Excel spreadsheet. It works, and if I move or need to restrain my gaming purchases, it's easier to deal with than having to change my address with yet another account. The free PDFs would be nice, but I've only bothered to get the PDFs for the hardcovers so far anyway.  |
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Kajehase
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 : 23:24:42
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Hawkins
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 03:19:27
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| Pathfinder MMO News. |
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 06:10:45
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I'm excited about the MMO news...but nothing will ever replace the flexible nature of good ol' tabletop!  |
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Markustay
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 06:11:46
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Whats that I hear?
Is that a funeral dirge playing somewhere in Renton, WA? 
I've been saying P&P RPGs needed to go digital to survive... glad someone was listening. The one who gets this to market first wins all the marbles.
At least we now know what Rich has been doing - good for him. I wonder how long its going to take for Monte to switch sides again... or has he already done so?
Its a real shame - TSR/WotC should have done this with the Realms years ago - a combination internet social network and game. I wonder if they need programmers?  |
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Brimstone
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This says it all: The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is now the world’s best-selling tabletop RPG.
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Markustay
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 15:19:12
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Methinks 5e will be "too little, too late".
I definitely plan to be a kickstarter.
WotC should give me the $5000 for this - think of how annoying it will be with me hanging out at the Paizo offices for a day. I would think that would be worth it to them. 
I'm actually picturing many of them cringing when someone announces "Markustay is here". 
quote: Originally posted by Dalor Darden
I'm excited about the MMO news...but nothing will ever replace the flexible nature of good ol' tabletop!
Actually DD, if done right, this could prove superior to the tabletop in the long run. No more traveling to play - you and your buddies just meet online for some great gaming.
I am assuming here this will be part game, part virtual tabletop (the 'sandbox' they speak of), which is the future of RPGs. Give a fanbase a set of world-building tools, and watch the modders come out of the woodwork. I modded a few games myself - you just need Boolean logic and a great scripting tool (along with tons of free time and an imagination).
If Paizo pulls that off, then this is the next big thing. I can't wait to start converting my own dungeons to this format. Instead of sharing your stuff with your friends, you can share it with the world.
And 6.8 billion people become potential free designers for you - its a no-brainer. |
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Sightless
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 17:13:42
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I only hope it's the new Java format instead of the old.
Anyhow, my own GM is going to this format, as it deals with a number of issues, which were a problem for him, but wont be for an online format. We've already gotten a format for combat down so I can determine where enemies and allys are. It's crude, but affective. |
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 13 May 2012 : 20:35:58
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quote: Originally posted by Markustay
quote: Originally posted by Dalor Darden
I'm excited about the MMO news...but nothing will ever replace the flexible nature of good ol' tabletop!
Actually DD, if done right, this could prove superior to the tabletop in the long run. No more traveling to play - you and your buddies just meet online for some great gaming.
I am assuming here this will be part game, part virtual tabletop (the 'sandbox' they speak of), which is the future of RPGs. Give a fanbase a set of world-building tools, and watch the modders come out of the woodwork. I modded a few games myself - you just need Boolean logic and a great scripting tool (along with tons of free time and an imagination).
If Paizo pulls that off, then this is the next big thing. I can't wait to start converting my own dungeons to this format. Instead of sharing your stuff with your friends, you can share it with the world.
And 6.8 billion people become potential free designers for you - its a no-brainer.
BLASPHEMER! 
No, seriously, everything I've seen leads me to believe it will not be a "mod" capable game. If it is, great!
However, I'm expecting it to much more akin to other MMO games that have scripted adventures built in.
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Markustay
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 04:33:48
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I think thats what they mean by 'sandbox mode'. At first (like in any new game), there will be included scenarios, but after a time they will most-likely include a great set of scripting tool - the modding community is one of the biggest and best FREE online resources a company can tap into.
This should do to online RPGing (REAL RPGing - not that 'light' stuff like WoW) what 3e did for RPGs - it will provide a set of tools for developers, and the entire fanbase grows with each new venture into the format. If its everything they are hoping it will be, this will become the next big thing.
Who doesn't want to create their own worlds/adventures, and then let others romp through them? We've been doing that for years, only now we'll have a great set of tools to animate our creations.
I predict 1.0 will be quirky/buggy as hell, and look/run like crap, but in the next 5-8 years it will be amazing. I remember the first iteration of windows, and how bad it was... but in time everything evolves and gets better. Pathfinder Online is going to be the Cro-magnon man to MORPGs Neanderthal, but it will take some time before it evolves into something sophisticated... but it will happen. Once those virtual tabletops become mainstream, its all over. People will just carry around their character sheets and their rule books in a tablet, and then lay that on a 'Surface' table and instant connectivity (thanks to Bluetooth). The possibilities are endless.
You can't stop progress, so us dinosaurs should avoid the meteor and take the next time capsule to the future. 
Can't wait till they start making them holographic - it'll be like SW (or HP) chess. On the other hand, by then 3D printers should be fairly affordable and much better at detail work - you could just print-out a town and minis as you need them.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Edited by - Markustay on 15 May 2012 16:14:19 |
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