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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 :  00:19:17  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

I was wondering how we got to talking about Iron Kingdoms in this scroll... and it turns out it was the MODS who pulled it off-topic.

I loved having the chance to do that; returning you to your regularly-scheduled Golarion discussion scroll.



Yeah, but I brought it up in relation to the newest Golarion book. So there!

I've not really flipped thru Cities of Golarion yet, but I like the lady knight on the back cover.



This reminds me of the time I asked the FR Design Team [on the WoTC forums] about regional modules and something like 'Cities of Faerûn'... and they replied such products are not likely going to happen. I'm glad that Paizo has provided me with *both* for Golarion!

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 :  00:22:29  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Heh. I've fallen behind in my PF downloads, and it's something I hope to correct over the weekend.



I order Paizo stuff at my FLGS (they don't stock it), and it takes 3-4 extra weeks until the books finally reach the frozen shores of Scandinavia. Maybe I, too, should consider buying the PDFs? In addition to the books, naturally!

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Brimstone
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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 :  03:30:14  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Get a subscription and the PDF's are FREE!

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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 :  04:14:27  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cities of Faerun would have been such a great book.
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Shemmy
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Posted - 28 Nov 2009 :  04:22:02  Show Profile  Visit Shemmy's Homepage Send Shemmy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Wizard

Cities of Faerun would have been such a great book.



After Serpent Kingdoms (which was awesome IMO) I kept waiting for more regional supplements, and waiting, and waiting, etc.

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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 29 Nov 2009 :  03:58:42  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shemmy


After Serpent Kingdoms (which was awesome IMO) I kept waiting for more regional supplements, and waiting, and waiting, etc.



Right, I thought they would have at least published a regional book on Cormyr/Sembia/Dalelands/Cormanthor before they turned over to 4E. The changes to that area over the edition and before were not trivial. The other "Core" areas of the Realms, mainly Waterdeep and the Silver Marches, got supplement attention.

Otherwise I would have thought they would try to "reclaim" territory from odd and outdated sources, especially the Old Empires and the Great Glacier, maybe the Island Kingdoms or the Vilhon Reach.

Possibly they could have just went with a region not seen since near the original Realms premiere like the Cold Lands (missed a great tie in with RA Salvatore's series set there).

Though as rumors of behind the scenes stuff came out, I could see their reluctance in the regional supplement format.

A Cities of Faerun supplement would have been a great compromise. It would be full of the stuff Realms fans would eat up, but a collection of different city write-ups, maps, plot hooks, and some crunch (a PrC for each city, spells, items, feats) would be a very useful toolkit for DMs in their own non-FR games.
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 02 Dec 2009 :  15:14:53  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For the third time Paizo opens its RPG Superstar.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 06 Dec 2009 :  02:26:20  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just DM'ed one of my three Pathfinder groups through the "Sixfold Trials" play yesterday. Yes, the adventure has an actual PLAY in it, where the PCs are the actors... (depending on how well they act or learn their lines, the adventure yields more XPs for good 'real' performances!!)

This was a momentous gaming experience. Perhaps the best gaming experience of my life. The players were shaking my hands at the end of the game saying they couldn't believe how awesome that game was, and I was like "Send your thanks to Paizo: I am only the Lawful Neutral implementer and running it 'as is'!!!"

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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 06 Dec 2009 :  08:50:28  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

I just DM'ed one of my three Pathfinder groups through the "Sixfold Trials" play yesterday. Yes, the adventure has an actual PLAY in it, where the PCs are the actors... (depending on how well they act or learn their lines, the adventure yields more XPs for good 'real' performances!!)

This was a momentous gaming experience. Perhaps the best gaming experience of my life. The players were shaking my hands at the end of the game saying they couldn't believe how awesome that game was, and I was like "Send your thanks to Paizo: I am only the Lawful Neutral implementer and running it 'as is'!!!"





That's a great adventure concept, the stuff come out of Pathfinder is really good.

On a related note, I just read on the Paizo blog that a middle school in Portland, Oregon turned the first Pathfinder adventure, Burnt Offerings, into a school play.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 :  06:35:06  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Amazing! :)
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 :  21:24:22  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know if somebody has already mentioned this tidbit: Pathfinder Chronicles Guide to River Kingdoms will be written in part by Elaine Cunningham.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 :  21:45:53  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great thing I have that subscription!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  04:32:06  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Great thing I have that subscription!



Ditto! And I just added the subscription to the Companion stuff, as well. Not only that, but I just realized a few minutes ago that I've got more of the Companion and Chronicles stuff than I realized -- but a lot of it is recently acquired, so I've not had a chance to do more than flip thru it.

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  04:50:16  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You folk are making those subscriptions sound awful tempting.

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Shemmy
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  05:06:58  Show Profile  Visit Shemmy's Homepage Send Shemmy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You folk are making those subscriptions sound awful tempting.



I get contributor pdfs for free, but even so I've been tempted to subscribe to the whole shebang because reading the physical books is easier and more fun. There's a whole hell of a lot of awesome. :)

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  15:00:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You folk are making those subscriptions sound awful tempting.



I'm liking my subscription. And when you subscribe to the physical books, you get the pdfs of those books for free -- that's one hell of a selling point, for me.

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  16:27:48  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You folk are making those subscriptions sound awful tempting.



I'm liking my subscription. And when you subscribe to the physical books, you get the pdfs of those books for free -- that's one hell of a selling point, for me.

It's the distance and shipping involved that's delaying my decision on whether to subscribe. While it may be easier for folk in the US, here in Australia, it's entirely likely that the physical tome will be released by the time my subscribed copy arrives. So, really, what's the point?

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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  16:36:34  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You already have your PDFs long before the actual physical copies arrive to satiate your curiosity (and long before both are available to non-subscribers), and then there is the possibility of a discount when you subscribe to the AP. Since I am in Germany, I have to wait for my copies for two to three weeks, but I am a Paizo Superscriber.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

You folk are making those subscriptions sound awful tempting.



I'm liking my subscription. And when you subscribe to the physical books, you get the pdfs of those books for free -- that's one hell of a selling point, for me.

It's the distance and shipping involved that's delaying my decision on whether to subscribe. While it may be easier for folk in the US, here in Australia, it's entirely likely that the physical tome will be released by the time my subscribed copy arrives. So, really, what's the point?




Again: free pdf! I can take or leave getting something quicker than someone else, but the free pdf is what decides it for me. I like having a pdf to supplement the physical copy, and not forcing me to pay all or most of the cover price for that pdf more than offsets the savings I could get by going to Amazon or hoping my FLGS has the books (the one I favor doesn't carry the Pathfinder setting stuff, and the other store sucks, so I don't even go in there).

Of course, shipping to Down Under may offset that, so I dunno... Speaking of which, I've got a rough guesstimate on shipping for that previously discussed package.

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 :  23:44:39  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Again: free pdf!
The free PDF! is a neat option, and something I'd love to take advantage of. But ...
quote:
Of course, shipping to Down Under may offset that, so I dunno... Speaking of which, I've got a rough guesstimate on shipping for that previously discussed package.
Given how long it usually takes for such sources to be released in Australia, it's highly likely that by the time I received my order from Paizo, the book would've been released here anyway. The only real benefit, I suppose, is that I will be paying US prices for it, rather than in AUD, which would cost a whole lot more.

Oh, and I haven't forgotten about that "previously discussed package." I've got some final arrangements for delivery to be made before I give it the go-ahead.

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Dark Wizard
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As a long time subscriber I now have more of the Pathfinder books than I have main D&D books. The quality is consistently there, I would even say the layout and art design is better, helping the atmosphere rival what most other companies are putting out. They're definitely worthwhile books.

Around the holidays, Paizo often has a discount code for 10% off (they have one right now for January). They also deduct the first $10 of shipping for orders over $100. I imagine it will barely make a dent on shipping to Australia, but I think it's not a bad way to cherry pick a packet of most desired titles for a single annual order.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 :  19:45:20  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The free PDF! is a real neat feature, especially for us international subscribers (the PDF is made available when your books leave the Paizo warehouse, so if there are long waits due to shipping, you have at least a PDF to sustain you in the meantime! I love it! )
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Brimstone
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 :  22:24:54  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The free PDF's are a great perk.

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thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 06 Jan 2010 :  06:30:10  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The new "Dwarves of Golarion" companion has some nice crunch (cool feats, especially the one where you slide an axe or bounce a hammer off the ground at a range to cause a trip attack; and cool spells, including paladin spells such as Watchful Eye which is a 1min/level Shield Other spell, taken as 1st level paladin spell.. normally shield other is 1hour/level, 2nd level spell... given the paladin's ability to heal him/herself as a swift action, it's a great spell to cast on someone else in the party...)

The book has great fluff too: religion, diet, history, customs, typical dwarf names, etc.

In Golarion the dwarves originated deep underground and followed a "Quest for the Sky" over centuries, at which point they emerged and came to live under the sun. They are not an "underground" race per se. Still involved with mining, etc. but they finally give an explanation as to why they became great beer brewers (i.e. due to their emergence to the surface and them diving deeply into the arts of agriculture / crop growing as well...)

Beautiful...
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Ayunken-vanzan
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Yes, but by their "quest for the sky" they have driven the orcs in front of them to the surface, too! Pescy little critters ...

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 06 Jan 2010 :  16:07:09  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

The new "Dwarves of Golarion" companion has some nice crunch (cool feats, especially the one where you slide an axe or bounce a hammer off the ground at a range to cause a trip attack; and cool spells, including paladin spells such as Watchful Eye which is a 1min/level Shield Other spell, taken as 1st level paladin spell.. normally shield other is 1hour/level, 2nd level spell... given the paladin's ability to heal him/herself as a swift action, it's a great spell to cast on someone else in the party...)

The book has great fluff too: religion, diet, history, customs, typical dwarf names, etc.

In Golarion the dwarves originated deep underground and followed a "Quest for the Sky" over centuries, at which point they emerged and came to live under the sun. They are not an "underground" race per se. Still involved with mining, etc. but they finally give an explanation as to why they became great beer brewers (i.e. due to their emergence to the surface and them diving deeply into the arts of agriculture / crop growing as well...)

Beautiful...



Ooh, I'm so jealous... my copy still hasn't arrived at my FLGS (I did receive the GM Screen a couple of days ago). I just can't wait to lay my dirty, clawed Chelaxian hands on this one...

Hmmm... I hope the designers "stole" at least a few racial feats we brainstormed on the Alpha and Beta threads!

EDIT: I really love the dwarven history (e.g. 'Quest for the Sky' and 'Sky Citadels'), but does this book have anything on clans in Golarion?

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 07 Jan 2010 :  03:55:44  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would never spoil something like that for you!
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dwarvenranger
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Have any of you guys played an inquisitor yet? I'm really looking foward to trying the class out.

If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 08 Jan 2010 :  02:17:36  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Frankly, the BETA classes for the upcoming Advanced Player's Guide are leaving me lukewarm.

There's so, so, so much fun to be had with the Core classes. It's going to be years before I try anything else (not really true, as I just rolled a paladin5/hellknight2 cohort for my fighter8/rogue1 PC... but hey... the hellknight PrC is just so DAMN cool... no pun intended! :) )
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dwarvenranger
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I know that in theory hellknights could be LG, I just can't really see them anything other than LN. As far a the new classes go, I agree that they're lackluster, with the exception of the Inquisitor. I see him as a true holy avenger.

If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.

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