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MerrikCale
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 Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 03:43:14
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Just curious if anyone is planning on taking the party the DM and jumping them into the future somehow. How? Why?
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 04:25:38
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A short while ago there was a discussion about how to have PCs jump forward or backward in time. Some great ideas came up. Anyone recall the title of the topic?
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 04:29:20
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I wrote something along the lines of a group of NPCs traveling through time to split the timeline so that the 4th edition timeline exists along side the "non-canon" games of my campaigns, sort of like a horrible "Days of Future Past-we have to be careful this never comes to pass" sort of potential future.
But the PCs? Nah, they're staying put in 1365 DR (although I had one group of PCs go back in time to Myth Drannor's founding . . . but they ended up in suspended animation until 1372 DR again). |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 07:22:29
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 10:01:00
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 11:44:17
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 15:20:42
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2008 : 23:38:22
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
Just curious if anyone is planning on taking the party the DM and jumping them into the future somehow. How? Why?
No, because I hate the Spellplague concept and do not plan to use it.
Then again, Merrik, you probably already know that. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 01:18:42
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I rather doubt it. And even if I wanted to, I probably couldn't. My Realms, simply, has far too much of my own campaign history [for example, there was no Time of Troubles in my Realms], 18+ years in fact, that I'd have to discard, ignore, or severely alter just to make use of the Spellplague. And I have no intention of doing that. It's taken me a long time, and a lot of campaign desiging and writing to reach this point in my history of the Realms, and I like it the way that it is. And, more importantly, so do my players.
I am, however, willing to give them the option. Once the FRCG is published, I do intend to encourage my players to learn about the post-Spellplague Realms, and whether it is to their liking. And, if they're keen on campaigning in such a setting, I will run one 4e FR campaign session as an alternate game for them. But that is the only concession I will make for the 4e FR material.
As it stands now, too much of the pre-4e Realms will change as a result of the Spellplague, for me to make effective use of most of the "core" material for 4e FR, in my campaign.
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 01:37:34
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale
Just curious if anyone is planning on taking the party the DM and jumping them into the future somehow. How? Why?
No, because I hate the Spellplague concept and do not plan to use it.
Then again, Merrik, you probably already know that.
I think you have hinted at that before yes |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 01:55:24
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GoCeraf
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 04:59:36
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 05:19:05
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 14:49:16
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
I think you have hinted at that before yes
Talk about an understatement!
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 15:52:17
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| No...but I may have a separate post spellplague campaign, but the bulk will be PRE!! |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 16:58:52
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
I think you have hinted at that before yes
Talk about an understatement!
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 17:03:56
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Not unless the 4e FRCG blows my socks off because it is so "cool."
EDIT: The only reason I think that it might is because of Ed's extensive work on it, and to be honest, that is the only reason I am going to give it a chance. |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
USA
608 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 17:13:44
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 28 Apr 2008 : 20:19:39
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initiate
Learned Scribe
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2008 : 04:10:12
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Nah.
I shall engage in no holy crusade against the Sellplague, [forgive the pilfering of Wooly's phrase, I think it's very appropriate]. If my players want to run a game in the 4 E Realms, I shall run it for them or participate if someone else wants a turn behind the screen. But it would be at most a mini campaign unrelated to our PCs in other games, a curiosity, an interesting experiment. I don't want to blow the 4 E issue out of perspective; the 4th ed Realms Campaign Guide won't burn my flesh if I touch it and I know this; but I'm not going to pretend that I like what they're doing either. It may be a good or even great setting, but I can't see myself leaving the 1370s and my own embryonic alternate timeline for it. I like 3 E Realms just fine, thanks. |
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2008 : 22:34:36
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2008 : 03:21:44
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Originally posted by initiate
Nah.
the 4th ed Realms Campaign Guide won't burn my flesh if I touch it and I know this;
don't count on it |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 : 22:19:05
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| I'm actually torn on this issue and I've played with several ideas. Firstly, most of my campaign NPC's... absolutely dead. The only one I'm playing with is the one I've written stories about, that being the bounty hunter, Sleyvas of Thay. However, I wouldn't move him forward in time unless there was a REALLY good story line to it. I've played with the idea of having him take over a new bodies, which is what he's been doing since he's been on the run. However, doing that as a long term thing is too much like Fistandantilus. He was also getting apt with creating constructs that he considered his "children", and I was considering him having created a new construct body. While that would work... its not appealing to me (though it would make for some interesting stories as he has to live with being a living construct)... and it smacks of Eberron. I've also considered not using him, but rather one of his descendants who was actually born to one of his construct children who actually developed a way to reproduce. But, this too smacks a little of the cheese. The final idea I was playing with was to have Sleyvas still around but as some kind of ghost or other undead... but not through choice like with lichdom. He shouldn't like this existence. |
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Portella
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
247 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2008 : 01:28:53
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
Faugh! Ptui!
I'm actually advertising my campaign with the slogan:
IT'S REALMS 3.0 AND MYSTRA LIVES!
I'm telling my players UP FRONT that it is NOT 100 years in the future, their favorite characters aren't dead, and their favorite mages are not insane. There will be no Chaos warping ... er ... Xend'rik ... ah ... "Abeir meets Toril again, causes the Chaos lands ... er ... Shadowfell, and asks, 'How's tricks'?" rubbish in my campaign. Period.
Hasbro can keep Realms.New.Coke -- I'm not buying it, nor will I make my players buy it, either. And if other DMs have the backbone to do likewise, I'd like to see how that impacts the 24% profit increase they enjoyed at the end of 2007! 
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Purple you say?!
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Portella
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 01 May 2008 : 01:49:20
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| but to answer the question, i wont move any characters in time. instead i would start up a new. |
Purple you say?!
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 May 2008 : 01:53:01
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| Every once in a while I get the urge to have the PCs find a portal to Golarion . . . but I love the pre-4th edition Realms too much to do this lightly . . . still, its tempting sometimes . . . |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 01 May 2008 : 02:18:17
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Faugh! Ptui!
I'm actually advertising my campaign with the slogan:
IT'S REALMS 3.0 AND MYSTRA LIVES!
I'm telling my players UP FRONT that it is NOT 100 years in the future, their favorite characters aren't dead, and their favorite mages are not insane. There will be no Chaos warping ... er ... Xend'rik ... ah ... "Abeir meets Toril again, causes the Chaos lands ... er ... Shadowfell, and asks, 'How's tricks'?" rubbish in my campaign. Period.
Hasbro can keep Realms.New.Coke -- I'm not buying it, nor will I make my players buy it, either. And if other DMs have the backbone to do likewise, I'd like to see how that impacts the 24% profit increase they enjoyed at the end of 2007!
(Don't even think of asking how this came to be posted after the reply to it. No Realms deity currently has the portfolio of All Time!)
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 01 May 2008 : 02:22:41
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Originally posted by The Sage
Jamallo, your reply has gone through. You can halt the further reply attempts I think. 
The server was being mean to me! I only saw one, and deleted that in error. *sigh* The one above this shall be the first and final posting of that message.
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2008 : 02:25:06
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
I'm not buying it, nor will I make my players buy it, either. And if other DMs have the backbone to do likewise,
Anyone of your players that does, should have there PCs executed |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 May 2008 : 03:02:19
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
The server was being mean to me! I only saw one, and deleted that in error. *sigh* The one above this shall be the first and final posting of that message.
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Anyone bringing their PCs 100 years into 4E?
