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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 17:11:07
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Originally posted by capnvan
Isn't it arguably easier to let go of a character you haven't had the opportunity to "bond" with?
That's a good point.
I think it does come down to giving people (especially new players) a chance to at least run their characters without dying in the very first hit they ever get (which is certainly possible in the older editions). I think it is partly about not frustrating newer players.
In any case, as was mentioned before 4E doesn't make it impossible for PCs to die, it just makes them a bit hardier. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 18:23:45
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We don't need hardier PCs, we need sissier monsters  |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 22:25:00
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| I've now played 4e, so I can offer some vague semblance of an informed opinion. And it seems to me that in 4e, like in every other RPG I've ever played, the GM and not the rules system is the true arbiter of lethality. If the GM wants the deaths of PCs of whatever level to happen on a regular basis, he can easily create encounters or adjust canned encounters to make this happen. And if he wants to make PC deaths rare, he can easily do that, too. |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 22:37:08
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
the GM and not the rules system is the true arbiter of lethality.
Spot on, whether you have 2 HP or 22 hp's at 1st level doesn't matter, as a DM I would encourage new players into the game and give them a 'nearly' deathly encounter in their first game but let them win through and survive by the skin of their teeth. You want them to remember it and come back for more. They will soon figure out that the game can be deadly and make appropriate choices, but they (or indeed any player) should not just be killed because the dice says so.....
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
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love to all,
THO
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2008 : 06:17:22
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
Well, I sure hope you like it then, though I think it is silly to vote without having seen the final product. Not even I, who admittedly hate almost everything that they have done, am voting blindly on this.
Who says I'm voting blindly?
Granted, I don't have the FR Campaign Guide in my hands yet.
But I am playing in the 4E Realms already. You don't need the FR Campaign Guide to do that (though it will surely help ).
I'm running my game in Cormyr and now I've got Brian's superb Cormyr article to reference. That plus Volo's guide and I'm set. I can only see the FR Campaign Guide and Player's Guide adding to the fun.
Again, I'm using the 4E rules in the Realms. They've passed muster at our gaming table and we're having fun.
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