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riot the outsider
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 12 Apr 2008 :  01:39:24  Show Profile Send riot the outsider a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I would like to know your thoughts on these titles and if there worth buying.

Spellfire first issue print
Spellfire Reissued
Elmister
Elmister in hell
Titles by Ed Green wood
Titles by Elanie Cunningham

There are other ones too but I can't remember the titles please also suggest other titles you have read that are worth buying. thanx


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Karzak
Learned Scribe

196 Posts

Posted - 12 Apr 2008 :  01:55:01  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't this be better suited to the novels section?

Either way, you can find people's opinions on pretty much all of the above if you use the search function. For the most part, if you ask now, you'll probably get fans of the respective authors chiming in to say how much they liked ____ and that'll be all, defeating the entire point of the "is this worth buying/reading" question because you'll be told you should buy them all.

With that in mind, I'll PM you stuff.
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Jorkens
Great Reader

Norway
2950 Posts

Posted - 12 Apr 2008 :  08:47:16  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you read anything by Ed? If you have and liked it I would say that all the Elminster books were worth getting. If not, try one (I would say Spellfire or Elminster in hell, but may people would disagree with me).

Cunningham is generaly well-liked by Realms readers, so you are safer there. I would suggest the Sword and Song books (also published in the Harper series).
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

USA
1618 Posts

Posted - 12 Apr 2008 :  18:50:57  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
they are all great realms novels, from two great realms authors
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Jon Grey
Acolyte

USA
22 Posts

Posted - 13 Apr 2008 :  17:09:12  Show Profile  Visit Jon Grey's Homepage Send Jon Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've found Ed Greenwood always a good read, and I'm ashamed to say that it's taken me too long to find Elaine Cunningham, though I've torn through the first two novels in the Songs and Swords series and am eagerly awaiting to continue.

I heartily recommend Swords of Eveningstar, and indeed the Knights series.

Hope this helps. Happy reading!

Of all the people that have lied to me/
Bards tend to do it most beautifully. -Rehthan Cotheras, Harper
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Faraer
Great Reader

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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 :  17:17:13  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spellfire is, along with Swords of Eveningstar, the novel that gives the clearest introduction to what the Realms is like: its landscapes, how magic feels, how adventurers deal with hardship, how its folk think and speak and live. It has weaknesses common to many first novels, and suffers from a crude editing job even in its restored form.

Elminster: The Making of a Mage is a charming, somewhat slight but quietly wise book that was written very quickly (and should never have been written at all, because Ed never meant Elminster to be a protagonist). Read it if you're intrigued by Elminster and the magical Art.

Elminster in Hell is a very ambitious novel that tries to get to the heart of the magical and moral philosophy of the Realms through a series of flashbacks interspersed in a harrowing, somewhat repetitive real-time narrative. I found it very moving, but wouldn't recommend it till you're better read in the Realms and understand the gist of its references.

I won't try to summarize Ed and Elaine's work, except that Ed of course knows and conveys the Realms better than anyone, and both are technically able writers with memorable characters and effective (though very different) plotting. Most of Ed's books feel like slices, in space and time, of a vast world going on around them; Elaine's may work better as traditional beginning-middle-end stories.

I would try Swords of Eveningstar and Elfshadow first, and see how you get on with them.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 :  23:24:08  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Without knowing what the OP's tastes are, it's hard for me to say which books are worth buying for him (her?).

I do find Faraer's descriptions to be pretty spot-on, though.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5056 Posts

Posted - 14 Apr 2008 :  01:39:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, and also echo Faraer's recommendations: try SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR and ELFSHADOW first, and see if they're to your liking. Then proceed accordingly.

No one can convey the "feel" of the "Realms alive, all around" like its creator. If there hadn't been a DRAGON Magazine, way back when, Ed Greenwood would always have been the only "voice of the Realms." There's a tiny chance that, if a series of inprobable happenings befall, he may one day end up as the only voice of the Realms, again.

Of course, as one person's preferred entertainment, everyone's mileage varies for a particular fiction writer.

Which is a very good thing, or none of us would have much choice: the bookstores would all have just one book, or the books of one author, on the shelf. To repeat the old joke: "What shall we give him for Christmas?"
"A book?"
"No, he already has a book."

love,
THO
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riot the outsider
Learned Scribe

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 14 Apr 2008 :  03:26:46  Show Profile Send riot the outsider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanx to you all for your thoughts you have helped me out alot.Also I would like to ask another request please check out my two stories that I have written and posted here at the keep and leave me your thoughts.Thanx

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Edited by - riot the outsider on 14 Apr 2008 03:30:53
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