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sleyvas
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  19:56:15  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
It just hit me and I was wondering if Ed or anyone has ever addressed this topic. Many states are governed by a hereditary body and their chosen lords. However, are there any states that you can think of that have voted in leaders or would have propositions voted on by the populace? If there are any instances of that, is there any note of only people who are X or Y being allowed to vote. The other question where someone was asking about land prices made me think about it (land owners only being allowed to vote possibly in some places, therefore land costs being higher).

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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  20:21:20  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Turmish is a republic, I'm not sure what the voting details are but the Assembly of Stars (the governing body of Turmish) is voted into office. At least as far as I remember, it's not come up in my game so I haven't gone back to look it over but I'm pretty sure they're voted in.

Otherwise, small, independent cities might vote and then it'd depend on the city. I'm not sure about other places though, I can't recall any others, off the top of my head, that vote.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  21:24:06  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Man, that could be problematic in the Realms, where the dead actually could vote!

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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  21:32:39  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Man, that could be problematic in the Realms, where the dead actually could vote!



Indeed! And where do you draw the line? Humanoids? Sentient plants? Outsiders? ("I'm sorry sir, but you're last known address was Phlegethos so you're not qualified to vote in this election.")
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 :  00:43:02  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed briefly touched on voting in a religious body in his '04 replies.

If you're looking for specifics though, I'd suggest a thorough search of the various city/regional sources -- like The City of Ravens Bluff or The North boxed set for example, for details about individual voting practices in different parts of the Realms.

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Kentinal
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 :  01:34:31  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm there are some examples of voting, the Seceret Lords of waterdeep vote, merchant guilds appear to have votes and so on, however a general public vote appears rare if one is looking for a Democacy it would be hard to find I would thing.

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Kajehase
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Several leaders are elected by the people. The ones that comes to mind right now are in Shadowdale and the Wizards' Reach city Delthuntle.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 :  18:34:13  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True, I guess Shadowdale does elect its leaders. I wonder what the criteria is for whether and/or how many votes a person in the dales gets. Is it by family, husband & wife, father having votes for himself and all his family, votes only for landowners, etc.... There wasn't anything in the recent module, correct?

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freyar
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Posted - 12 Apr 2008 :  15:37:21  Show Profile  Visit freyar's Homepage Send freyar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

True, I guess Shadowdale does elect its leaders. I wonder what the criteria is for whether and/or how many votes a person in the dales gets. Is it by family, husband & wife, father having votes for himself and all his family, votes only for landowners, etc.... There wasn't anything in the recent module, correct?



Don't think so, no. From what it sounded like at the end of Shadowdale:TSotL, it sounded kind of like election by general acclamation.

Silverymoon has also elected leaders from time to time (maybe some of the other Silver Marches cities, too, can't remember).

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 :  19:24:36  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, to be honest, I can't remember the last time a leader of Shadowdale was actually voted in, at least as the modern person thinks of it.

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 13 Apr 2008 19:26:35
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Jamallo Kreen
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Man, that could be problematic in the Realms, where the dead actually could vote!



Snowball and Snowball II might vote for Bob the Red Wizard!




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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Apr 2008 :  01:30:47  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Even the Big Bopper voted for Bob the Wizard!

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