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Eol
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  09:42:59  Show Profile  Visit Eol's Homepage Send Eol a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Which of the following spells do you think is the greatest successful spell ever cast? (Karsus’s avatar is not in the list because it was an spectacular failure )

Choices:

Waymeet (A inter planar mythal that can create portals between any two planes)
Dragon Rage Mythal (A global mythal that brought an end to Dragon dominance over Faerun)
Imaskar wards (Stopped all divine magic and banned gods, from Imaskar)
Sundering (Creates Evermeet and divides continents)
Dark Disaster (Killing storm that destroyed Miyeritar)
Mythallar (Netheril’s flying enclaves)
Other

(Anonymous Vote)

Zanan
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Stop voting now! I just got the 100 correct %!

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Alisttair
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  10:33:21  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm biased towards anything Netherese.

Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  12:14:29  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote goes to the Imaskar! Change the continent, or affect a race is one thing... now, block the gods! These old imaskars have some cards in the sleeve, really. ^^

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Eol
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  13:03:19  Show Profile  Visit Eol's Homepage Send Eol a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Which god ever changed the continent of Faerun? Gods have a relatively small amount of power in Faerun in any event.

The Waymeet brakes down planar borders in other words it can change the geography of the mutiverse. Only Ao or perhaps a pantheon of gods could do that. Think about the possibilities, the abyss or hell having a direct link to elysium or the moongates (not that I would do that). Stopping gods to have access to a relatively small realm is a cute mythal type spell; playing Ao is much more fun!
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Aravine
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  15:35:21  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

My vote goes to the Imaskar! Change the continent, or affect a race is one thing... now, block the gods! These old imaskars have some cards in the sleeve, really. ^^



You know, I have to agree with you there.

although if you count Ao banishing all the dieties(except Helm) a spell, then my vote goes for that.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  15:42:49  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As for "greatest" in the sense of "best," I vote for the gate spell that brought Elminster into a young Ed Greenwood's living room one rainy Sunday morning back all those decades ago, thus opening up a whole world to our exploration.

But I wax nostalgic!

Cheers

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The Hooded One
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Hmmm. Well said, Erik!
Eol, you missed all the really big spells (the terraforming and "racial creation from scratch" ones). Not to mention the planetary steering spell.
love,
THO
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  16:23:06  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hmmm. Well said, Erik!




Indeed. I'll vote "other", for that one.

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BARDOBARBAROS
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  22:40:48  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dragon Rage Mythal

BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!


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Wooly Rupert
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Karsus's Avatar was not a failure -- the spell worked. He just didn't realize that he couldn't handle the spell being successful.

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khorne
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  23:00:45  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hmmm Not to mention the planetary steering spell.
love,
THO

Quack?! How much power would you need to do THAT? In the Erevis Cale trilogy the Sojourner (who was a ridiculously powerful mage) had to gather a huge amount of arcane energy just to move one of Selune's tears...

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sfdragon
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the spell or spells used to create undermountain.





why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Jorkens
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An impossible question to answer. The consequences of some minor spell at the right time might have changed Faerun for ever. A first level spell might be the winner. As this is not known though I would say that Erik's suggestion is a very good candidate.

In other words: Other.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

the spell or spells used to create undermountain.




Undermountain wasn't created by spells. It was carved out by dwarves and drow, and added to by Halaster.

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sfdragon
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

the spell or spells used to create undermountain.




Undermountain wasn't created by spells. It was carved out by dwarves and drow, and added to by Halaster.



nu-uh.... undermountain isnt just the carved rock, but the spells that hole it together and prevent waterdeep from falling in on top of it,and the creature summoning spells there within

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

the spell or spells used to create undermountain.




Undermountain wasn't created by spells. It was carved out by dwarves and drow, and added to by Halaster.



nu-uh.... undermountain isnt just the carved rock, but the spells that hole it together and prevent waterdeep from falling in on top of it,and the creature summoning spells there within



A mythal is what keeps it from caving in -- and it's not just on Undermountain, its on the entire Waterdhavian plateau. And while mythals are impressive, "standard" mythals aren't on the above list. The other spells in Undermountain were cast by a single mortal, and are not all that impressive when considered singly -- what makes them impressive is the sheer multitude of spells Halaster has layered on his Halls.

And either way, Undermountain was not created by spells. Some of the conditions present in Undermountain were created by spells, but the complex itself was fashioned in sections by many hands, and by both tool and spell.

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Tethir the dragonslayer
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Posted - 03 Apr 2008 :  22:08:04  Show Profile  Visit Tethir the dragonslayer's Homepage Send Tethir the dragonslayer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, I am way biased... My character is a "spelleater". He has spellfire... and mythallar tastes yummy!
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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 03 Apr 2008 :  23:22:09  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Karsus's Avatar was not a failure -- the spell worked. He just didn't realize that he couldn't handle the spell being successful.



Yep, and I have to say that stealing the Goddess of Magic's power by using magic is a feat that I find really impressive.

However, I do agree with Erik's opinion on what the best spell was.
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crazedventurers
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Has to be Sash of Spells for me (am ignoring all the blow-up-the-world spells)

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 23 Apr 2008 :  21:51:35  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Karsus' Avatar a spectacular failure...? Wow...Just wow...

(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)

Elves of Faerūn
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Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 23 Apr 2008 :  22:30:27  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote is the Sundering...

While blocking gods is good...not even gods can raise a continent that I've ever seen in a book...

Not that I've seen every book.

The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me!
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Mace Hammerhand
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Is there a spell that puts bubbles into beer?

That would be the greatest accomplishment.


(What do ye expect, I'm a dwarf! Of course, I'm biased!)

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GRYPHON
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The Sundering...

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Jorkens
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quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Is there a spell that puts bubbles into beer?

That would be the greatest accomplishment.


(What do ye expect, I'm a dwarf! Of course, I'm biased!)



I am rather tall, but I would settle for a spell that makes most easily available beers actually taste like beer again, instead of slightly yellowed water.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 24 Apr 2008 :  16:06:13  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-Karsus' Avatar a spectacular failure...? Wow...Just wow...



Some people just don't know the truth.

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Mace Hammerhand
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quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Is there a spell that puts bubbles into beer?

That would be the greatest accomplishment.


(What do ye expect, I'm a dwarf! Of course, I'm biased!)



I am rather tall, but I would settle for a spell that makes most easily available beers actually taste like beer again, instead of slightly yellowed water.



I have the spell for ya!

"Ticket to Germany"
(conjuration... I think *hicks*)
Range: Personal
Duration: Depends on where you come from: EU permanent, rest...I dunno
Target: self...mostly
Components: V, S, M

You conjure up a ticket to a steel-dragon that will transport you to the land of beer and...well, beer (and some soccer, maybe, for those who care). Once you leave the dragon you can indeed behave like a German on vacation in, say, Mallorca, only that you are no German and actually in Germany.
Avoid discussions about soccer, unless you also want to enjoy brawls like German hooligans (sure, it ain't Holland, and it definitely ain't England, but the native hooligans can dish out pretty well...as well!).
Material component: Local Currency (to get there!), and local currency (to get pissed in Germany!)


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Jorkens
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quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Is there a spell that puts bubbles into beer?

That would be the greatest accomplishment.


(What do ye expect, I'm a dwarf! Of course, I'm biased!)



I am rather tall, but I would settle for a spell that makes most easily available beers actually taste like beer again, instead of slightly yellowed water.



I have the spell for ya!

"Ticket to Germany"
(conjuration... I think *hicks*)
Range: Personal
Duration: Depends on where you come from: EU permanent, rest...I dunno
Target: self...mostly
Components: V, S, M

You conjure up a ticket to a steel-dragon that will transport you to the land of beer and...well, beer (and some soccer, maybe, for those who care). Once you leave the dragon you can indeed behave like a German on vacation in, say, Mallorca, only that you are no German and actually in Germany.
Avoid discussions about soccer, unless you also want to enjoy brawls like German hooligans (sure, it ain't Holland, and it definitely ain't England, but the native hooligans can dish out pretty well...as well!).
Material component: Local Currency (to get there!), and local currency (to get pissed in Germany!)





I know that spell. Along with Czech's Everlasting Brew it is a spell of honour and renown. With bloody expensive material components. The football part might also be a problem. I was thinking more of the local cantrip. Or the massive lost "Keep your corporation hands of our brewery"-spell. Along with vinyl and TSR these are the three components for the great past.

I should cut down on the coffee (or Gentle Giant records). And yes dear moderators, I will try to keep on topic
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 25 Apr 2008 :  17:45:36  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Sundering. Elves have some destructive teamwork. :)

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Lord Karsus
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Some people just don't know the truth.



-Well, we do, so...

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Markustay
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I would have to say it was the 15th level spell Ao first cast - Create Crystal Sphere.

quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-Karsus' Avatar a spectacular failure...? Wow...Just wow...
Quite right - the SPELL wasn't a spectacular failure, the MAGE was.

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Undermountain wasn't created by spells. It was carved out by dwarves and drow, and added to by Halaster.
And in 4e, we'll probably find out it was originally an Aboleth Kingdom, in the time BEFORE the Age of Thunder.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 29 Apr 2008 18:10:43
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