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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
 Posted - 27 Mar 2008 : 16:49:33
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I'm playing baldur's gate 2 in multiplayer mode and i cAN not QUICK-LOAD the game through the key "L" which is seted for quick-load.
also the game does not UNPAUSE easily through the spacebar( it wants to press THE SPACE BAR 2 TIMES TO UNPAUSE IT)..in the single game these things does not happen..I downloaded the patch from bioware but the problems still happen ..
Does anyone knows how these problems are going to be fixed??
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BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2008 : 10:38:58
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| Are you playing with someone online or on a Local Area Network (LAN)? It could be there is lag between your two computers if its online. If you're on a LAN, it could be a weak connection or one of the computers is running too much aat the same time as the game. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2008 : 22:45:02
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Are you playing with someone online or on a Local Area Network (LAN)? It could be there is lag between your two computers if its online. If you're on a LAN, it could be a weak connection or one of the computers is running too much aat the same time as the game.
No i'm playing it alone and i have created 4 characters of my own and i will take other 2 from the NPCs |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2008 : 10:21:25
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| why would you do that anyway, create 4 chars, youŽd be missing all the banter fun! there are so many combinations to try out, especially if you include NPC mods |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2008 : 20:20:29
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I've already finished one time with one character in single player mode..
Now i plan to finish it in multiplayer with one good party, one evil party and one neutral party of 4 characters each and take the best 2 npc in each team according to alignment.. |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Karzak
Learned Scribe
196 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2008 : 21:21:33
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| You know there're no significant differences in gameplay based on alignment, right? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 00:09:34
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Originally posted by Karzak
You know there're no significant differences in gameplay based on alignment, right?
Seconded. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 08:17:01
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Originally posted by Karzak
You know there're no significant differences in gameplay based on alignment, right?
Yes i know it. No significant differences... but according to alignment there are some decision to make( like choosing Bodhi (evil) or Shadow thieves( neutral or good)...
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BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 12:51:54
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| I personally enjoy the few opportunities to choose between good an evil and what it entails. (holding someone hostage for example to get silver pantaloons) |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 14:45:00
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Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS
Yes i know it. No significant differences... but according to alignment there are some decision to make( like choosing Bodhi (evil) or Shadow thieves( neutral or good)...
You can be good and choose to help the vampires (although certain party members won't appreciate it, and Keldorn will leave). Having helped the vampires once, it is my opinion that the Shadow Thief path is more fun, although as far as morality goes, they are probably only a little bit better than the vampires. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 15:54:12
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True, helping the shadow thieves is more fun, but its fun to experiment.
The neutral path is the one where the main character would have to be armed with the Equalizer sword for maximum enjoyment (although you might have to use your imagination a bit on that). |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
USA
608 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 16:03:25
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Super-Scribes!
we're dedicated to thread-jacking threads, one at a time!
*Looks up* That is a mighty big Hamster...
It's okay, I do it all the time (not on purpose). Wait, I'm doing it now. |
The brave don't live forever,the cautious don't live at all |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 18:39:54
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Of course, the ultimate joy of having played good or evil is at the very end of the game:
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If you decide to become god of murder, evil characters are truly evil gods of murder and good characters are a paradox good god of murder lol |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2008 : 20:34:43
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Of course, the ultimate joy of having played good or evil is at the very end of the game:
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If you decide to become god of murder, evil characters are truly evil gods of murder and good characters are a paradox good god of murder lol
ok.. these games are suitable for good teams or neutral ...In the evil teams there are Discrepancies |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 04:31:00
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Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS
ok.. these games are suitable for good teams or neutral ...In the evil teams there are Discrepancies
I think the biggest discrepancy is the aforementioned good ending, unless you choose the alternative of course. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Caedwyr
Seeker
87 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 06:58:49
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| Bhaal was the lord of death (the act/process of dying). Bane was the Tyrant, and Myrkul was lord of the dead. Death in and of itself is neither good nor evil, Bhaal just put an evil spin on it. The Ferryman over the River Styx wasn't necessarily evil, and frequently the Grim Reaper is portrayed as just the method of guiding souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead, or whatever comes afterwards. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 11:43:26
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Originally posted by Caedwyr
Bhaal was the lord of death (the act/process of dying). Bane was the Tyrant, and Myrkul was lord of the dead. Death in and of itself is neither good nor evil, Bhaal just put an evil spin on it. The Ferryman over the River Styx wasn't necessarily evil, and frequently the Grim Reaper is portrayed as just the method of guiding souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead, or whatever comes afterwards.
Precisely, Lord of Murder, the act of making people die rather than death itself. Death in itself is a natural part of life. To cause death prematurely is, usually (many moral debates can be caused by this) an evil act. Good tend to not cause death (exceptions exist, such as pulling the plug on someone who is suffering a slow, painful death), but this can go deeper than that. For argument's sake, on Toril, good and evil is more clearly defined and clear cut than in RL, so a good god of Murder is an oxymoron. I can see one that is neutral, keeping the balance of it in some way, but a good god with assassins as worshippers, even ones that only kill evil and monsters, is still kind of hard to swallow. But that is just my opinion of course.  |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 11:44:33
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| Back to the main question on this thread, I do recall not being able to use the quick load in multiplayer mode actually. I don't think I even used it in single player either though to be honest. The unpausing by hitting the space bar twice I don't think I ever had that problem though. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
Edited by - Alisttair on 22 May 2008 11:46:03 |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 12:43:58
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Back to the main question on this thread, I do recall not being able to use the quick load in multiplayer mode actually. I don't think I even used it in single player either though to be honest. The unpausing by hitting the space bar twice I don't think I ever had that problem though.
ok..
Yes the disability of quicksave in multiplayer make someone expert in pausing with the space ...i see it now while i'm playing it... Because in multiplayer load is more time-consuming ... |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 13:25:14
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| I thought you could still quicksave in multiplayer, just not quickload??? |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Caedwyr
Seeker
87 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 14:30:52
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Caedwyr
Bhaal was the lord of death (the act/process of dying). Bane was the Tyrant, and Myrkul was lord of the dead. Death in and of itself is neither good nor evil, Bhaal just put an evil spin on it. The Ferryman over the River Styx wasn't necessarily evil, and frequently the Grim Reaper is portrayed as just the method of guiding souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead, or whatever comes afterwards.
Precisely, Lord of Murder, the act of making people die rather than death itself. Death in itself is a natural part of life. To cause death prematurely is, usually (many moral debates can be caused by this) an evil act. Good tend to not cause death (exceptions exist, such as pulling the plug on someone who is suffering a slow, painful death), but this can go deeper than that. For argument's sake, on Toril, good and evil is more clearly defined and clear cut than in RL, so a good god of Murder is an oxymoron. I can see one that is neutral, keeping the balance of it in some way, but a good god with assassins as worshippers, even ones that only kill evil and monsters, is still kind of hard to swallow. But that is just my opinion of course.
If you look at the Dead Three story in the 2nd Edition Faiths and Avatars, you'll see that Bhaal claimed the position of the Lord of Death, ie: the one who delivers the dying to the land of the dead. In an effort to increase his power, he went and interpreted this portfolio as the Lord of Murder. Still though, his original portfolio was just the act of death. If a good god wanted to reinterpret the portfolio as has been done before (Finder), using the original portfolio should be easy enough. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 15:32:19
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| By the way, the ending where the PC is goodly and accepts Bhaal's essence is very vague about what the PC actually becomes. It doesn't even state that the PC becomes a deity, much less the new deity of murder. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 21:25:06
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I thought you could still quicksave in multiplayer, just not quickload???
Oooooops !!!
By mistake i wrote quick save..I mean quickload... quicksave works properly!! |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2008 : 10:45:30
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
By the way, the ending where the PC is goodly and accepts Bhaal's essence is very vague about what the PC actually becomes. It doesn't even state that the PC becomes a deity, much less the new deity of murder.
Yeah its been a while since i've seen the ending. Thanks. Personaly, I seem to get more satisfaction with the evil god ending than any other  |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2008 : 14:52:34
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Yeah its been a while since i've seen the ending. Thanks. Personaly, I seem to get more satisfaction with the evil god ending than any other
Heh. I get the most satisfaction in choosing to stay mortal. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2008 : 18:31:37
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Yeah its been a while since i've seen the ending. Thanks. Personaly, I seem to get more satisfaction with the evil god ending than any other
Heh. I get the most satisfaction in choosing to stay mortal.
But the divine power??? Who could pass up such power??? The other gods cower in fear of the new lord of murder's might!!! |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2008 : 08:43:11
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Another big discrepancy of the game is that when you are evil and you decide to ally with Bodhi( which is the more logical for evil characters) then you cannot have Edwin with you (who is the best evil character in the game)...That's ridiculous ....and also you loose all the quests of shadow thieves and Edwin's quests.. |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
Edited by - BARDOBARBAROS on 24 May 2008 08:44:46 |
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Caedwyr
Seeker
87 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2008 : 17:12:13
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| You can always get Edwin prior to siding with Bodhi. Renal Bloodscalps quests are not part of Aran Linval's quest chain. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2008 : 21:23:49
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Originally posted by Alisttair
But the divine power??? Who could pass up such power???
Someone who actually enjoyed living in the Realms, and enjoyed the freedom of being a mortal. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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BALDUR'S GATE 2 QUESTION
