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O Love
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Posted - 25 Mar 2008 :  17:12:57  Show Profile  Visit O Love's Homepage Send O Love a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
There will be a new series (trilogy?) called "Abolethic Sovereignty". First book is "Plague of Spells", written by Bruce R. Cordell. Release date is December 2, 2008.

Here is the link to Amazon: Plague of Spells

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Thanks for the info...

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Posted - 25 Mar 2008 :  17:40:43  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've heard about this, but thanks for the information.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 25 Mar 2008 :  21:34:55  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Abolethic" sounds very awkward to me. It seems like the "Aboleth Sovereignty" would have sufficed.
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The Sage
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It seems like it's a direct reference to the Abolethic Sovereignty already mentioned in 4e Realmslore -- from the "Spellplague: The Wailing Years" article over at WotC.

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Posted - 26 Mar 2008 :  17:43:25  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

"Abolethic" sounds very awkward to me. It seems like the "Aboleth Sovereignty" would have sufficed.



I totally, completely agree with you on that.

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Posted - 26 Mar 2008 :  17:43:59  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

It seems like it's a direct reference to the Abolethic Sovereignty already mentioned in 4e Realmslore -- from the "Spellplague: The Wailing Years" article over at WotC.




And before that, it was mentioned in the novel Stardeep.

"Abolethic" is definitely on my list of Words I Hate for Various Reasons, just like "LeShay".

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 26 Mar 2008 17:44:39
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The Sage
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Why do you dislike "LeShay?"

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Wooly Rupert
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It sounds like a real world surname, to me.

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Posted - 27 Mar 2008 :  00:25:38  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It sounds like a real world surname, to me.



Seconded (Nick Lachey, anybody?). Also, there's no reason for the "S" in LeShay to be capitalized. It just looks stupid to me.

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The Sage
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Ah. I have no idea who that is, but I can see how that would be a problem.

I don't mind it too much... probably because it just reminds me of the LeShay creatures in the old "Quest for Glory" PC games. I loved those critters!

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Wooly Rupert
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He's a member of one of those boy bands that were popular a few years back. I'm not sure which one, since I never made any effort to tell them apart.

The capitalization that Rino mentions makes it more like a real world name to me, actually, since it looks like they took a name and ran the words together. Even a slight tweak to leshai would have worked better, for me.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Mar 2008 :  14:40:16  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

He's a member of one of those boy bands that were popular a few years back. I'm not sure which one, since I never made any effort to tell them apart.


98 Degrees. He's probably most famous for his former marriage to Jessica Simpson and their reality show from the time, "Newlyweds".

quote:
The capitalization that Rino mentions makes it more like a real world name to me, actually, since it looks like they took a name and ran the words together.



AgReed. AnD iT loOks lIke whoEver creAted tHe woRd juSt thouGht ranDom capiTaliZion loOks cOol.

As for the Quest for Glory games, I'm familiar with them (I've played some of them, in fact) but I don't remember the LeShay creatures Sage spoke of.

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The Sage
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The LeShay [or rather, just one of them] feature in "Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness" -- it appears on the road toward Mordavia... attempting to trick you with riddles and puzzles at first. It's not until later that you realise it has a sinister motive guiding its actions.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Mar 2008 :  17:31:07  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

The LeShay [or rather, just one of them] feature in "Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness" -- it appears on the road toward Mordavia... attempting to trick you with riddles and puzzles at first. It's not until later that you realise it has a sinister motive guiding its actions.



Ah, thanks for the clarification.

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Jamallo Kreen
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I just skimmed through "Countdown to the Realms: Spellplague: the Wailing Years," and I must say that I am very excited. As people start buying the $40 - $60 sourcebooks for the Realms.New.Coke, many will have to sell off their collections of material on the REAL Forgotten Realms, allowing me to buy cheaply what is presently unobtainable due to rarity and high price.

I think I'll take a peek at the "Abolethic Sovereignty" books if they deal with aboleth history and aren't just another Hasbro 4.New.Coke scam. Will Bruce be writing all three books? That it would be an incentive to buy.





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'LeShay''s crass internal caps don't match Realms orthography, and it not only looks French or mock-French but is an actual our-world name.
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What is the topic of this opus please ?

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quote:
Originally posted by Fillow

What is the topic of this opus please ?

Refer to my earlier post:-
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

It seems like it's a direct reference to the Abolethic Sovereignty already mentioned in 4e Realmslore -- from the "Spellplague: The Wailing Years" article over at WotC.
And there's brief references in Cordell's Stardeep novel too.

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Jamallo Kreen
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What is the Stardeep reference, please?





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Posted - 07 Sep 2008 :  00:05:23  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

What is the Stardeep reference, please?








The plot involves star elves trying to hold back "Xxiphu" (the, uh, "HQ" of the Abolethic Sovereignty).

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

What is the Stardeep reference, please?


The plot involves star elves trying to hold back "Xxiphu" (the, uh, "HQ" of the Abolethic Sovereignty).
And there are brief tidbits about the overall plots of the Sovereignty and a little about their history too.

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The Red Walker
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Anyone read this yet? I am really looking for a reason to buy and read it , but....just can't find one. I like Bruce's earlier noveld especially Lady of Poison, but I don't know why....i just cannot get interested in Aboleths.
I actually saw a copy in a secondhand store for $2, picked it up and read a few pages....just wasn't feeling it.

Am I missing something or am I just to stubborn for my own good?

But to sum it up I feel like Magadon near the end of Shadowrealm....

skip if you have not read it........







Let me paraphrase...."when I reached the Abolethic Sovereignty...I had seen enough of the realms and needed to find a place settle down"
And I think I wanna settle down , back pre-spellplague with the exception of maybe Waterdeep and my handfull of chosen authors.

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Posted - 20 Jan 2009 :  02:24:20  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Anyone read this yet? I am really looking for a reason to buy and read it , but....just can't find one.


In my opinion that's reason enough not to read it.

quote:
Let me paraphrase...."when I reached the Abolethic Sovereignty...I had seen enough of the realms and needed to find a place settle down"
And I think I wanna settle down , back pre-spellplague with the exception of maybe Waterdeep and my handfull of chosen authors.



My sentiments exactly...

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I read it, and really enjoyed it. Cordell had a lot to juggle--being true to the world and the game that supplied his setting, fusing something like the Lovecraft mythos' horror and cosmic dread to the Forgotten Realms while simultaneously dealing with the Spellplague, and, of course, telling an exciting and fast paced fantasy adventure story--and I think he not only kept all the balls in the air but did so with flair. Compelling characters helped, of course, but I think that his voice is really what carried the book. It's good, I think.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Anyone read this yet? I am really looking for a reason to buy and read it , but....just can't find one. I like Bruce's earlier noveld especially Lady of Poison, but I don't know why....i just cannot get interested in Aboleths.


-Yes, yes I have. You can read my review of Plague of Spells HERE.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-Yes, yes I have. You can read my review of Plague of Spells HERE.


Interesting review. Well done!

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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The Red Walker
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Thanks for the fusing Lovecrqft into the realms analogy. If I'd is anything like that I am sure I made the right choice in not spending $2 on this book. I would have considered myself being robbed blind at that price for that. I am not going to tell anyone they should or should not enjoy Lovecraft, but I don't want him in my Realms.

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I still have the DDT books plus nine other old books to read, so maybe I will take peek after that and see what direction the FR novels are headed.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

Interesting review. Well done!



-They always are. There's plenty of others for perusal, for those looking for novel/sourcebook reviews. Plague of Spells, the FRCG and the FRPG, but the possibility remains that I might ghostwrite, or "invite a guest" who has read other 4e-era books I am not planning on reading.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

Interesting review. Well done!



-They always are. There's plenty of others for perusal, for those looking for novel/sourcebook reviews. Plague of Spells, the FRCG and the FRPG, but the possibility remains that I might ghostwrite, or "invite a guest" who has read other 4e-era books I am not planning on reading.


I'm an ardent reader of your reviews. Can't say I always agree with them () but I do appreciate them!

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Thanks for the interesting review. Nothing catches the spirit of the Eberrealms more than this sentence from Bruce Cordell:

quote:
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So ... no need for a true Realms fan to bother with 4e realms.

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