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Hymn
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Sweden
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 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 21:09:12
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So who else is looking forward for the relase of the expansion of Neverwinter Nights?
I know for sure I do :-)
What futures and addons do you think will be the best etc?
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 03:20:14
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| When they said no robes and cloaks I was resolved to not buy it. I guess my copy will just have to fall off a truck. |
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Kiwi
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 05:40:45
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Strange complaint: "no robes & cloaks" . . Since there already are a veritable plethora of cloaks and robes in the OC part, I assume you thought those were inadequate and wanted a greater variety and/or higher level protection.
As for me, I waited until recently to buy NWN and have only just finished my initial run, as a Fighter/ Rogue, without any patch. Now, I'm considering a second run as some type of Cleric. I have liked the Official Campaign pretty well, except for the lack of recognition at the end, and for the OC just not offering enough play as released.
I don't know much about the expansion part, and prefer to wait on reviews instead of accepting the gushing, optimistic previews on blind faith. After it's actually available, ask me again.
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 19:40:15
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After keeping up on the news about it on the Bioware site, I am definitely going to pick it up. The only thing I'm very dissapointed in is that they're keeping the level cap intact. I wanted to get my F/M up to at least 15/15.  |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 21:16:43
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| Yepp, the lvl restrictions was one of the settbacks that took its toll on me the hardest. I will look forward to play the Assissin prestige class. |
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
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Strahd Von Zarovich
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
135 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2003 : 15:56:31
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Well today I managed to get my copy of this wonderous piece of software that I have been longing after for some time!!
All I can say is, if you liked the first NWN tale then you will LOVE this one.
So far SO DAMN FINE!!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Jun 2003 : 16:00:24
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Are you willing to provide any spoilers or other little pieces of information that we might find interesting, at least to pacify us until we all get our own copies...
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2003 : 21:25:56
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Are you willing to provide any spoilers or other little pieces of information that we might find interesting, at least to pacify us until we all get our own copies...
Well, not STORY spoilers, Sage. But any new feats/skills/characters/etc would be cool.  |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
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Strahd Von Zarovich
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
135 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2003 : 13:32:41
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Well I am not going to give too much away at the moment, as I don't want to spoil the fun for you all.
The game starts in Hilltop, at a fighting school led by a dwarf named Drogan. You and your fellow students are reaching the end of your training. The school is attacked by Kobolds, and Drogan is injured.
After the battle you meet Ayala, who has been tracking these Kobolds. She attempts to heal Drogan, and you find out that he has been poisoned. You find out that Ayala is a Harper, as well as Drogan. He has been storing some artifacts for some time at the school. The artifacts are stolen, and Drogan sends YOU out on an adventure as your last trial to retrieve the artifacts.
You get to choose from 3 of your fellow students to accompany you.
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Xanos Messarmos, a Half-Orc Sorcerer
Dorna Trapsringer, I think she is supposed to be Halfling Ranger
Mischa Waymeet, Human Paladin of Mystra.
So that is the basic jist of it for now, I will bring more details of characters I come across at a later date.
Strahd Von Zarovich |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jun 2003 : 14:30:52
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Sounds interesting. I assume that the Kobolds were after the artifacts Drogon was storing?.
Anyway, I may wait a little longer for some other reviews before I purchase my copy.
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Kiwi
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 Jun 2003 : 04:24:10
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Originally posted by Strahd Von Zarovich
Well I am not going to give too much away at the moment, as I don't want to spoil the fun for you all.
You get to choose from 3 of your fellow students to accompany you.
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Xanos Messarmos, a Half-Orc Sorcerer
Dorna Trapsringer, I think she is supposed to be Halfling Ranger
Mischa Waymeet, Human Paladin of Mystra.
Dorna is a Dwarf (beardless, mind you) Cleric/Rogue that seems to be the best all-round NPC for Chapter 1. Xanos is too despicable to put up with, and totally undisciplined at tossing spells around, wasting most. There is another NPC you can take along later, who is of all things, a Kobold Bard.
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2003 : 09:15:17
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Well,I picked up my copy friday and have been playing a few hours a day since then.
Some cool new items to be had in this exp pack.
This time they've also included grenade-like missiles in the game, in the forms of Acid flask, Alchemists (read Greek)Fire, Choking Dust, and a Tanglefoot Bag. A few of the other items available are Chimes of Opening, Brooch of Shielding and Dust of Disapearance.
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Cool story and play so far. I really liked how when you get the quest for the white dragon done and he tries to double-cross you, you can use the Phylactery of Ice to turn yourself into a frost giant and just wail on him! Teach that SOB to threaten me! Haha!
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"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
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Kiwi
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Jun 2003 : 04:42:14
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This one has several puzzles in it; most are quite simple and easy to work out, but tons of the kiddies in the BioWare forums find them way too hard for their limited reasoning skills.
It's been fun up to the middle, but I think I've been rushing a bit fast to get near the end of the Interlude with limited supplies and can't seem to survive the terminal battle. There is one unpleasant piece of buggy behavior that is most annoying.
The number of options for interaction with the henchman have been increased, including inventory control. That is a good thing. But the battle AI for them has been jiggered out of whack. I've used the dwarf Rogue, Dorna, as my only helper, and I am certain I couldn't be doing this expansion on a solo basis.
But if there are a couple of enemies scattered apart, her battle AI is unable to choose which to fight. She just runs back & forth from one enemy to the other and seldom strikes a clean blow to any one of them.
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 04:49:44
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Is it just me, or did anyone else find the ending of this EP to be very anticlimatic?
I was expecting a much harder battle with the Medusa. |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 08:03:30
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I first noticed this one battle system when playing pools of radiance (which was abysmal) that when you level up, you can choose which class to advance in, im not sure how many classes you can do this in
Is this a 3E rules thing? Cause i saw it was the same in NWN
All the feats and special abilities are cool, but that was too weird for me. I mean i had a rogue whom i gave levels in barbarian to, allowing her to wield a tower shield and a two handed sword at the same time. that was just weird
anyone else have the same complaints or know where this originated? |
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 06:48:11
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| Yep. It's a 3E rules thing. It's how you multiclass in 3E. It also allows for the prestige classes to be played. |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 06:55:02
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| Prestige classes? Apologies for the dumb questions, but im abysmally unfamiliar with 3E rules (as im sure you can see) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 07:30:53
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Prestige classes are like regular character classes, only they have certain requirements that a player must meet before that player can attain the class. They also grant special abilities, and allow a PC to focus on a particular aspect of their choosing, that is not really possible with the core character classes.
The Arcane Archer, Assassin, Black Guard, and Loremaster (one of my favorites ), are all examples of prestige classes. If you are familiar with the character class kits from 2e, that is really all they are only converted into 3e format (although they offer better abilities and generally work much better in a game as well). There are other differences but not enough to really overly distinguish the two.
I hope that helps.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 07:39:51
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| Sage forgot to mention that PrCs can only be taken if the character is of a certain level, has a particular Base Attack Bonus (BAB), or has a certain number of ranks in a skill. Feats and class abilities are also often a factor, or ability to cast certain spells. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 07:44:46
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Originally posted by Strahd Von Zarovich
Mischa Waymeet, Human Paladin of Mystra.
Um . . . one-step rule? Anyone? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 07:57:37
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Bookwyrm said -
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Sage forgot to mention that PrCs can only be taken if the character is of a certain level, has a particular Base Attack Bonus (BAB), or has a certain number of ranks in a skill. Feats and class abilities are also often a factor, or ability to cast certain spells.
Thanks Bookwyrm  . I had just assumed that was implied by the 'certain requirements that a player must meet before that player can attain the class' reference that I made in my previous post.
Oh well...
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 08:25:48
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| Just a little clarification. It wasn't all that long ago that I was asking the exact same question. |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 09:51:39
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kind of a dumb and lazz question, but does anyone have a link for me on where i can get good info on 3E rules, kits and special abilities?
I have searched a bit, but all the ones i have come across, just detail 3E rules and not the conversion from 2E to 3E which i need so i can see how they differ etc. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 10:38:53
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MuadDib, this site allows you to download a 2e-to-3e conversion manual that details many of the changes from 2e to 3e characters. It also has information on some other aspects pertaining to the conversion.
If you are just looking for general rules and ability information, nothing can compare to actual published material such as sourcebooks and game accessories, however they can sometimes become a little out of some people's price range.
The next best thing, however is the WotC website, located here. It has useful columns posted both weekly and monthly, on many different aspects of gaming in 3e D&D. It has many other interesting features as well. One of my personal favorites are the so-called 'Web Enchancements'. These are files that you can download for free that provide you information on many different things about D&D which relate to specific sourcebooks released. Sometimes they offer previews of upcoming releases which contain information that you said you are looking for.
The Web Enchancements sections is located here.
If you have any more questions I suggest visiting the WotC D&D Community. They provide regular help for all different kinds of topics covered in D&D, there are even previous edition players and DM's who regularly provide assistance. Since the WotC forums have now been moved to a new server, I will provide you with their new location. I am also including a special link to the Forgotten Realms forums on the WotC website. It can provide you with help on specific FR information also.
I hope this helps MuadDib.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 10:59:58
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MuadDib, I am sending you an ethereal mail (email) containing some other links that I have just found and some others that I have bookmarked.
There is also a file containing some very interesting notes I once wrote and compiled on the basics of the conversion, and some interesting thoughts about taking your characters into 3e. It draws heavily upon the 2e AD&D rules for kits, classes, weapon proficiencies, and non-weapon proficiencies. It was posted on the En World site for a while, but with the 3.5 revision now a reality, it has been taken down.
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 14:23:07
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Sigh
With my heyday in Baldur's Gate and all th studying i did after it, i thought i knew what was going on. Then came NWN and i came here and saw the whole non-pc D&D, and realised how little i do know.
Just like life isn't it? As soon as you get to the top of the pile, the view gets better, and you see other piles bigger than yours. I suppose i can be mature and take this as a valuable life experience
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Jul 2003 : 21:50:02
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Well said, MuadDib. I like that one.
And before I came here, all I knew was in the FR books from before 1999 and in the games Menzoberranzan, Dungeon Hack, and the Eye of the Beholder trilogy. I'd never even heard there was a third edition . . . .
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Originally posted by MuadDib
kind of a dumb and lazz question, but does anyone have a link for me on where i can get good info on 3E rules, kits and special abilities?
I have searched a bit, but all the ones i have come across, just detail 3E rules and not the conversion from 2E to 3E which i need so i can see how they differ etc.
Don't forget that you'll be getting some stuff soon from me or my (publicly unnamed for now) contact. Not much actual conversion, but there'll be some 2e stuff to compare to. |
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