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Fhaorn quessir
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Canada
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 Posted - 23 Feb 2008 : 23:05:12
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My brother just brought a new D&D group in and they would like to start a war campaign against the Sothsillian Empire plagueing the merchants in Amn. I am very lacking in knowledge on Amn, especially it's army. If anyone can help me I need the estimated number of troops available, the names of nome ruling noble houses, and possibly well known generals or any other helpful military related info on the land of merchants.
Regards,
Fhaorn'quessir
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 23 Feb 2008 : 23:44:46
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Good Fhaorn,
the second edition tome Lands of Intrigue will be of extreme help to you. You will find it as a free download in the Wizards Download Page!
(Wooly will come with a link soon ).
Beyond it, some about the war is discussed in the awesome tome Power of Faerun.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 : 00:06:43
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And just as a note, the original name for the army was "Sythsillian", not "Sothsillian". Use whatever name you prefer, though. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 : 00:09:13
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I am not Wooly but I can and will provide the link to the download page of WotC anyhow:
HERE YOU GO!
And while you are there, you might what to download the adventure 'Castle Spulzeer' as well, as it might have some useful information on Amn as well.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 : 00:43:32
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The 2e Lands of Intrigue boxed set introduced this plot development. The FRCS didn't expand upon it because that's not what the FRCS was out to do. Power of Faerūn updates the Sythilissan situation.
And see Empires of the Shining Sea, which reveals a little about the syl-pasha of Calimshan's machinations relating to the whole situation.
The stinger infiltration comes from the tlincalli write-up in Monsters of Faerūn.
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Fhaorn quessir
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 : 19:29:19
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Thank you all very much. I own Power of Faerun, but had not thought of looking through the old edition downloads at WotC, they have helped me many a time. Yes it's sometimes confusing when they switch the names around a bit (Syth to Soth). Another question I have for anyone else who owns Power of Faerun: I noticed the number of troops our Ogre Mage friend controls greatly differ from PoF to Lands of Intrigue ; Anyone have an idea of which seems more accurate? I think for the stingers I will use scorpionfolk from the MM2, as I do not -to my dismay- have Monsters of Faerun. Does the write-up in MoF have actual information on the stinger attacks in Amn ? Some troop numbers would be great if I'm going to run these monsters ;)
Many thanks,
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Feb 2008 : 23:48:12
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Originally posted by Fhaorn quessir
Does the write-up in MoF have actual information on the stinger attacks in Amn ? Some troop numbers would be great if I'm going to run these monsters ;)
The entry tells us that "an entire stinger hive-city has used a three-year ritual to transport itself into the Underdark beneath the nation of Amn."
That should give you an idea of troop numbers.
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Fhaorn quessir
Seeker
Canada
52 Posts |
Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 01:54:23
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Yes that does, thank you . I suppose thats what all the fuss is about in Amn . I will make it a metropolis then. I hope that the scorpionfolk I'm using instead arent too much different from stingers.
Regards,
Fhaorn'quessir |
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Pasta Fzoul
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 04:59:10
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Originally posted by Fhaorn quessir
Yes that does, thank you . I suppose thats what all the fuss is about in Amn . I will make it a metropolis then. I hope that the scorpionfolk I'm using instead arent too much different from stingers.
Regards,
Fhaorn'quessir
Well, you may want to be cautious - in terms of raw power, Scorpionfolk are a CR 7, while Stingers are CR 4. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 10:35:15
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Originally posted by Fhaorn quessir
Thank you all very much. I own Power of Faerun, but had not thought of looking through the old edition downloads at WotC, they have helped me many a time. Yes it's sometimes confusing when they switch the names around a bit (Syth to Soth). Another question I have for anyone else who owns Power of Faerun: I noticed the number of troops our Ogre Mage friend controls greatly differ from PoF to Lands of Intrigue ; Anyone have an idea of which seems more accurate? I think for the stingers I will use scorpionfolk from the MM2, as I do not -to my dismay- have Monsters of Faerun. Does the write-up in MoF have actual information on the stinger attacks in Amn ? Some troop numbers would be great if I'm going to run these monsters ;)
Many thanks,
Fhaorn'quessir
When we have two sourcebooks with some problem of information like this, the most recent (Power of Faerun) is view as the "correct".
But feel free to shape the ogre army to fit your campaign the best way.  |
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StarBog
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 11:07:58
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Originally posted by The Sage
The entry tells us that "an entire stinger hive-city has used a three-year ritual to transport itself into the Underdark beneath the nation of Amn."
*groans* Really? I had missed that. That seems a horrible contrivance to me. What were they thinking when they came up with this? It seems so out of place with the rest of the lore in this particular bit of Faerun. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 16:50:42
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Originally posted by StarBog
*groans* Really? I had missed that. That seems a horrible contrivance to me. What were they thinking when they came up with this? It seems so out of place with the rest of the lore in this particular bit of Faerun.
I have to agree...but that's coming from someone who's had the whole Sythillisian problem taken care of in her Realms, anyway.
By the way, "Sythillis" was changed to "Sothillis" because of the former word's similarity to a certain sexually-transmitted disease. At least, that's the story I recall hearing. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 25 Feb 2008 : 17:07:23
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I think it a good idea. The idea of a race give a counter attack against the abuses suffered in the hands of an alien nation is very good (and an excellent oportunity to throw some devious campaigns plots in the mix )
And lady Fathomlin is right about the change in the name of the ogre army. |
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Fhaorn quessir
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 26 Feb 2008 : 00:39:27
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Funny fact on the name change :) Well I suppose I will downsize the scorpionfolk to my best estimate of a CR 4. What a vast change they made to the numbers of Sothillis' forces -from almost 100,000 to less than 3,000. I think I will lean more towards the 2 ED numbers to add a more epic feel to the campaign. Also I might bring the Ogre horde to the gates of Amn (if they make it that far). It might turn out like the time that waterdeep was under siege by the Orcs.
I don't want them to superpowered though, since they do have the heretic churches of Cyric backing them up (but ready to betray Sothillis if needed). I hope I dont do all this work on the scorpionfolk to find my players tired of their first battle campaign after fending off Ogres.
Thanks for the help.
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Altai la Ibn-Ahad
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 26 Feb 2008 : 05:42:38
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| well tyvm zach for showing me candlekeep i just decided to stop and get all the imfo for that campaign ur gunna be dming cuz i have no idea of amn |
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Fhaorn quessir
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 26 Feb 2008 : 06:42:02
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Originally posted by Altai la Ibn-Ahad
well tyvm zach for showing me candlekeep i just decided to stop and get all the imfo for that campaign ur gunna be dming cuz i have no idea of amn
Well met Connor,
Try to PM me with questions from now on. The General Forgotten Realms Chat would be good if you want to learn more about the vast continent of Faerun. Also, the Adventuring section is great for talking about your character. Please stay off the Running the Realms section, due to the fact that it is where I will be posting up storyline details (and its mainly for DM's), and reading them might ruin your experiences in my campaign. I will try to get you some links to useful information ASAP. Welcome to Candlekeep!
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Fhaorn'quessir |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 26 Feb 2008 : 19:15:09
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
By the way, "Sythillis" was changed to "Sothillis" because of the former word's similarity to a certain sexually-transmitted disease. At least, that's the story I recall hearing.
Truth be told, I never once stopped to think about that when I'd named the ogre mage back in LOI. I just wanted a sinister and sibilant name to go with my burly monster menace, that's all. 
And I'd never heard that was the reason for the name change until now (as I'd never gotten an answer on the name change, so far as I remember). 
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 26 Feb 2008 : 23:17:55
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Truth be told, I never once stopped to think about that when I'd named the ogre mage back in LOI. I just wanted a sinister and sibilant name to go with my burly monster menace, that's all.
I never really thought about it either, until someone on the internet mentioned it. |
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Fhaorn quessir
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 27 Feb 2008 : 02:28:48
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| Neither I. My guess was that they changed it due to some error beforehand with the ogre language (Im not intending to impose that you are bad at naming Ogres, Mr. Schend). I'd have to say I liked the old name more; Sythillis just sounds more akin to the Ogre magi, where as Sothillis fits an Ogre more in my eyes. Now that I told my players of that fact though, they would not take it seriously if I changed it back to Sythillis. It's rather hard to make an NPC seem imposing and dangerous when he is named after a sexually transmited disease :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Feb 2008 : 15:52:59
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Originally posted by Fhaorn quessir
Now that I told my players of that fact though, they would not take it seriously if I changed it back to Sythillis. It's rather hard to make an NPC seem imposing and dangerous when he is named after a sexually transmited disease :)
Yeah, for some people it would be hard to resist cracking jokes about it constantly. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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rjfras
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 : 09:06:08
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Originally posted by Fhaorn quessir
Funny fact on the name change :) Well I suppose I will downsize the scorpionfolk to my best estimate of a CR 4. What a vast change they made to the numbers of Sothillis' forces -from almost 100,000 to less than 3,000. I think I will lean more towards the 2 ED numbers to add a more epic feel to the campaign. Also I might bring the Ogre horde to the gates of Amn (if they make it that far). It might turn out like the time that waterdeep was under siege by the Orcs.
I don't want them to superpowered though, since they do have the heretic churches of Cyric backing them up (but ready to betray Sothillis if needed). I hope I dont do all this work on the scorpionfolk to find my players tired of their first battle campaign after fending off Ogres.
Thanks for the help.
Fhaorn'quessir
In regards to the number of troops, you also have to take into account that there is a span of a couple years between the first numbers and the second numbers which includes some offensives by both sides and the push that the combined army finally made against the sothsillian empire to push their current borders back to pretty much just around the city and part of the hills.. I'm sure they lost a lot of their troops in those loses.... not to mention the attacks by the stingers against them too... |
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Gang Falconhand
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 : 09:27:44
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| The little-spoken of Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II features many locations throughout Amn in great detail. I'd recommend getting hold of it if at all possible. |
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