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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
 Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 16:13:49
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Have just read a post on the FR mailing list about the lastest 4E podcast and jus thought I would post the main bit here
Make very interesting reading if you ask me
Damian
http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0801e&L=realms-l&D=1&F=&S=&P=3134
"BTW, listened to the last podcast about 4E. And how the 4E rules will
fit pretty well with the new Star Wars rules, so, you know, you could
mix the two without a lot of changes. Fabulous. I fully expect this new Realms to need a few ambidextrous, shadow-magic-using, bladesinging, lightsaber-wielding dragonmark drow Sith anyway."
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
Candlekeep Forum 7 May 2005 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 17:14:08
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I kind of agree with this guy's suspicion that the Realms seem to be turning into "Eberron Lite", but I wouldn't go too far with that idea because I wouldn't want to be excoriated by Ebberon loremasters saying "Oh no, it's not similar AT ALL!" (and by the way, I see nothing wrong with Eberron, I just don't see why the FR needs to be made more similar to that setting).
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 17:37:07
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| The funny thing is that one point I did a completely apocryphal campaign with the Revised Star Wars d20 and 3.x Realms where the SW characters got sucked through a force/magic rift into the Realms. It only lasted a couple of sessions though. As a plot point, I was going to have one of the Jedi character's lightsaber stop working so they would have to travel to the island of Lantan. |
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* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 19:13:46
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One of the Manshoons fled to the Star Wars universe... He's now the Sith Lord Darth Clonus. Who do you think gave Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus the idea for a clone army?   |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 20:27:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
One of the Manshoons fled to the Star Wars universe... He's now the Sith Lord Darth Clonus. Who do you think gave Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus the idea for a clone army?
Thanks for that laugh Wooly! |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 21:38:34
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They are totally turning the Realms into Eberron lite. There are too many ideas taken directly from Eberron and put into the Realms.
And you know why they haven't talked Eberron? Because they're not going to do Eberron 4E. Why? Because like the Realms, there are too many novels (not as many as the Realms) and too many supplements (not as many as the Realms) to tell new developers and authors it's THEIR JOB to read before writing updated books.
FR 3E offerings have all been lackluster and we didn't even get all the major gaming areas covered. Plenty of Eberron books got published though because they could make stuff up as they went along.. like 4E Realms now.
I guarantee you that in 2009 they'll run another campaign contest because it's easier to make up a new setting then to update an old one. Otherwise they would have brought back any of the other popular AD&D settings themselves instead of licensing out Dragonlance and Ravenloft. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
Edited by - SirUrza on 01 Feb 2008 21:40:51 |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 21:59:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
One of the Manshoons fled to the Star Wars universe... He's now the Sith Lord Darth Clonus. Who do you think gave Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus the idea for a clone army?
makes perfect sense to me
hey wooly shall we pitch this to Wizards saying we will write a cross-genre adventure showing how much fun you can have when everything is the same and you don't have to worry about history and lore and how things should be......
My friend runs star wars - I am throwing this idea his way, am sure he will like Manshoon running around his universe
cheers
Damian
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 23:56:48
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quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
And you know why they haven't talked Eberron? Because they're not going to do Eberron 4E. Why? Because like the Realms, there are too many novels (not as many as the Realms) and too many supplements (not as many as the Realms) to tell new developers and authors it's THEIR JOB to read before writing updated books.
Well, there is an important difference between the settings--Eberron doesn't have a "metaplot" the way the FR does, and the Eberron novels aren't considered "canon" (and therefore, they don't change the setting). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2008 : 09:26:24
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
(and by the way, I see nothing wrong with Eberron, I just don't see why the FR needs to be made more similar to that setting).
Great point, Rino! That's 100% my opinion too. |
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Mr. Wilson
Seeker
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2008 : 11:17:44
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| They already announced they were releasing Eberron in 2009. With virtually no changes. |
"I've got a plan..."- Dan
"Nothing good has ever come after those four words." - Jesse |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2008 : 19:20:02
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| I do see an argument for the Realms being made more "Eberron-like" though. In my view, though there are some startling comparisons (Mournlands -> Plaguelands) between the "new" Realms and Eberron, the biggest thing I see that they are doing to the "new" Realms to make it like Eberron is that the motto for Eberron was "if it is in D&D, than it is in Eberron" (or something similar). Now, for 4e, WotC is saying that "if it is in D&D 4e, than it is in the Realms." Before, the Realms was its own entity, and it took what it wanted and left what it didn't want (and Realms DMs did the same) from the D&D Core. Now, with 4e, they are trying to shove everything that is in the 4e Core into the 4e Realms. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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FR and Star Wars compatible?
