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Mandras
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Estonia
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Posted - 22 Nov 2007 :  06:45:57  Show Profile  Visit Mandras's Homepage Send Mandras a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello.

What is (was) the surname of Manshoon?

Best Regards,

Mandras.

"The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
Oscar Wilde

George Krashos
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Australia
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Posted - 22 Nov 2007 :  10:08:47  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandras

Hello.

What is (was) the surname of Manshoon?

Best Regards,

Mandras.



From Ed himself a long while ago, that I dredged up from the depths of my HD:

Manshoon’s family name is “Shoon,” and all members of his family use a single name, derived by adding a prefix to “Shoon” (usually an established family one, such as Brar/Brarrara; Caul/Caulra; Dusk/Duskra; Farl/Farla; Gul/Gularra; Harl/Harla; Kul/Kuldra; Man/Mana; Pel/Pelra; Sarr/Sarrla; Tarl/Tarla; Vorl/Vorlarra [the male form first, female form second]). So, no first name and surname, just a single name. This is a naming convention once very popular in southerly coastal lands (of the coast known, in its more northerly reaches, as the Sword Coast), but now dying out because most of the peoples who used it were conquered or made slaves, and gradually died out or intermarried and in any case adopted the naming conventions of those “over” them (so as to “belong” and escape inferior status).

To quote the inimitable THO: So saith Ed.

-- George Krashos

P.S. The other Manshoon tidbits that followed will be saved for a realmslore rainy day.

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Mandras
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Estonia
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Posted - 22 Nov 2007 :  10:52:26  Show Profile  Visit Mandras's Homepage Send Mandras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks.

One more thing - according to Villain´s Lorebook (and IMHO some other canonical FR sources) the brother of Manshoon was Asmuth (not Asmuthshoon, or something).

How come?

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Mandras.

"The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
Oscar Wilde
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 23 Nov 2007 :  17:59:21  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi. An answer to that, from Ed himself:

Because Manshoon's brother was estranged from his family, and didn't want others to assume he was in any way like them.

So saith Ed.
love,
THO
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Markustay
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Posted - 29 Nov 2007 :  23:26:51  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting... does that mean he married a "Muth"?

Also, if Manshoon's family name was Shoon, and the naming convention was popular in the southern coastal lands (ie, The Lands of Intrigue), then is it possible that Manshoon is a decendent of former rulers of Calimshan?

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Pasta Fzoul
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Posted - 30 Nov 2007 :  04:50:43  Show Profile Send Pasta Fzoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Interesting... does that mean he married a "Muth"?

Also, if Manshoon's family name was Shoon, and the naming convention was popular in the southern coastal lands (ie, The Lands of Intrigue), then is it possible that Manshoon is a decendent of former rulers of Calimshan?



Exactly what I was wondering!
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 30 Nov 2007 :  05:11:35  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh-heh-heh. I'll have to contact Ed to see if I can say more (there was an NDA on this, years ago in the TSR days, but I've never officially heard if it was lifted).
In the meantime, guess away, scribes ...
love,
THO
P.S. No, it does NOT mean he married a "Muth." He was trying to distance himself from his origins, not just step sideways but still confirm for everyone what he truly was. It means he adopted quite a different family name, of a friend he admired, from another city. If I remember rightly (this was a long time ago, and said brother wasn't alive, onstage, in our Realmsplay).
love to all,
THO
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