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Hawkins
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  01:05:59  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
What is the most you would be willing to pay for an Encyclopedia of the Realms? Assume that every author that you could desire to wrote part of it.

(This is closely related to but different from the would you buy a Realms Encyclopedia scroll.)

Choices:

50 USD
55 USD
65 USD
70 USD
75 USD
80 USD
85 USD
90 USD
95 USD
100+ USD

(Anonymous Vote)

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Xysma
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  03:22:08  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's hard for me to pick a price I'd be willing to pay for a hypothetical product. It depends on the page count, the authors, the quality, the art, etc. Having said that, as long as the cost matched the product, I'd pay it.

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Jorkens
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  06:20:39  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would all depend on the page count. You could say that I would prefer an annotated ten (or twenty) volume set that I had to blow my entire FR budget on before a low price single set.
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Ergdusch
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Germany
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  07:58:53  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to repeat what my fellow scribes said allready: that depends....... but if it is put together convincingly I'd spend all of what I get for selling my bunny!

I voted for 100+ USD, after all the dollar is weak atm which makes buyíng in the US rather cheap for us pesky europeans!

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Edited by - Ergdusch on 09 Nov 2007 08:00:50
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Alaundo
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  10:46:52  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

The "encyclopedia" question has arisen a number of times before. Some of ye may recall TSR's plans to produce of four-volume set. Alas, the production cost was too great to go much further than the initial research work which people like myself were involved in

Nevertheless, i'm sure that if such a product was released, they'd sell like hot cakes

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Alisttair
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  13:43:23  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I would pay whatever the cost is, but with my budget I'm all for a smaller price tag, especially considering books not having price changes as they should here in Canada despite the CND Dollar having such a high value.

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sparhawk42
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  14:08:18  Show Profile  Visit sparhawk42's Homepage Send sparhawk42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like many of the other posters, for me this would all depend on page count, who is involved, and the such. More likely than not though I would pay the 100+ USD but for that much I would expect a well thought out and executed product.

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  15:04:34  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

The "encyclopedia" question has arisen a number of times before. Some of ye may recall TSR's plans to produce of four-volume set. Alas, the production cost was too great to go much further than the initial research work which people like myself were involved in

Nevertheless, i'm sure that if such a product was released, they'd sell like hot cakes



It was both production costs and time/manpower costs--we worked it out when we'd done the initial research and in 1998, it would have taken Julia Martin, Phil Athans, and myself working full-time on NOTHING ELSE FOR A FULL YEAR TO 18 MONTHS to get the four volumes of FR encyclopedias (timeline/historical encyclopedia, geographic encyclopedia, biographic encyclopedia, magical/miscellanei encyclopedia) done right. That full-time job would also have factored in managing at least a dozen or more freelancers at nearly full-time workloads for EACH VOLUME.

Thus, that's the equivalent of more than two dozen products of standard size and profitability sacrificed for four high-end products of questionable profitability (because nothing of its ilk had been done before). There's the true reason it ended--it simply cost too much and would have pulled Julia, Phil, and me away from tasks that needed us on them (since our work schedules at the time were planned at least a year in advance).

This, by the way, is my conjecture and vague memory of the situation, not any official statement from WotC.

The prelim timeline work done by "the monks of Candlekeep" for me was great and much appreciated, but alas, the research phase was where our great database of Realmslore project ended.

Steven
Who'd happily pay about $250 for that four-volume set now...assuming it's a quality-sewn-binding on archival paper...

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  18:27:36  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with my fellow scribes - all depends of page count, and other factors.. but I will buy it anyway.

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  19:13:26  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

The "encyclopedia" question has arisen a number of times before. Some of ye may recall TSR's plans to produce of four-volume set. Alas, the production cost was too great to go much further than the initial research work which people like myself were involved in

Nevertheless, i'm sure that if such a product was released, they'd sell like hot cakes



It was both production costs and time/manpower costs--we worked it out when we'd done the initial research and in 1998, it would have taken Julia Martin, Phil Athans, and myself working full-time on NOTHING ELSE FOR A FULL YEAR TO 18 MONTHS to get the four volumes of FR encyclopedias (timeline/historical encyclopedia, geographic encyclopedia, biographic encyclopedia, magical/miscellanei encyclopedia) done right. That full-time job would also have factored in managing at least a dozen or more freelancers at nearly full-time workloads for EACH VOLUME.

Thus, that's the equivalent of more than two dozen products of standard size and profitability sacrificed for four high-end products of questionable profitability (because nothing of its ilk had been done before). There's the true reason it ended--it simply cost too much and would have pulled Julia, Phil, and me away from tasks that needed us on them (since our work schedules at the time were planned at least a year in advance).

This, by the way, is my conjecture and vague memory of the situation, not any official statement from WotC.

The prelim timeline work done by "the monks of Candlekeep" for me was great and much appreciated, but alas, the research phase was where our great database of Realmslore project ended.

Steven
Who'd happily pay about $250 for that four-volume set now...assuming it's a quality-sewn-binding on archival paper...



It is still depressing that this never happened. So close...
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Hawkins
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  19:28:51  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Who'd happily pay about $250 for that four-volume set now...assuming it's a quality-sewn-binding on archival paper...

I would be willing to pay that much. Able to pay that much is a slightly different answer though.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 :  23:34:26  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

It's hard for me to pick a price I'd be willing to pay for a hypothetical product. It depends on the page count, the authors, the quality, the art, etc. Having said that, as long as the cost matched the product, I'd pay it.



I was thinking the exact same thing.

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GRYPHON
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The cost wouldn't matter, so long as it was good quality.

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Amraz one arm
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A elven pinkfinger, and dwarven toe,
But I really dont care how many euro's its gonna cost...

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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 21 Nov 2007 :  19:23:36  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

[quote]Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

(snip)

Steven
Who'd happily pay about $250 for that four-volume set now...assuming it's a quality-sewn-binding on archival paper...



In the alternative, publishers in Pakistan produce very cheap general medical texts (and probably quite a lot of other books) by using relatively flimsy covers and whisper-thin paper.

I'd like to see a de luxe edition published side-by-side with a cheap edition so that everyone can benefit.

A big consideration for me is what will be in it. If it's the Torilian equivalent of the Encyclopédie, then by all means charge what the market will bear. If it's only going to be a rehash of information I've already accumulated in thousands of dollars' worth of already published FR books, then count me out. I already have a reprint of the first edition of Encyclopedia Britannica, what I want as a monumental guide to the Realms is Volume XLVI of The Anglo-American Cyclopaedia (New York, 1917), with 921 pages, if you please!





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BARDOBARBAROS
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Posted - 02 Dec 2007 :  21:03:46  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the less is the best !!! 50 usd

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Patrakis
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Canada
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If something like the Ptolus campaign city book can be made (and was made) I can't imagine something similar couldn't be done for the realms. The quality of that book is astounding and yet it was a standalone book in a world with no following. I don't know if that experience was profitable considering the price tag (over 100 $) but it seems Monty's company still makes books so it must have been.

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