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Ozzalum
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 22 Dec 2007 : 02:56:33
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Well, the book grew on me once I got over the fact that the tone was different from what I expected. I liked the ending, with everything coming together quite nicely and the Siegebreakers coming out smelling good.
I was impressed at the use of a Rust Monster. That creature is so meta-gamey I thought it could never be worked into a novel without being an obvious way to weaken the protagonist before a big fight. And then you used it to make Sanval Manynames feel bad about not looking spiffy anymore. Good stuff. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Dec 2007 : 04:49:38
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Originally posted by Ozzalum
Well, the book grew on me once I got over the fact that the tone was different from what I expected. I liked the ending, with everything coming together quite nicely and the Siegebreakers coming out smelling good.
I was impressed at the use of a Rust Monster. That creature is so meta-gamey I thought it could never be worked into a novel without being an obvious way to weaken the protagonist before a big fight. And then you used it to make Sanval Manynames feel bad about not looking spiffy anymore. Good stuff.
I like how the rust monster, by disheveling Sir Manynames well kept armor and clothes, sent him into a murderous mood so foul he bashed it's head in with his boot. But what bothered him was that it was not the boot already dirty and now both needed repair! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 02 Jan 2008 : 01:32:15
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
[quote]Originally posted by Ozzalum
I was impressed at the use of a Rust Monster. That creature is so meta-gamey I thought it could never be worked into a novel without being an obvious way to weaken the protagonist before a big fight. And then you used it to make Sanval Manynames feel bad about not looking spiffy anymore. Good stuff.
I just loved Sanval's armor but I felt he really needed a crisis of heart and wardrobe at the end. And, somehow, when you have shiny armor, you just need to have rust -- at least in my view of the world.
Thanks for the thoughtful comments. A terrific artist friend just designed a bookplate for this book. If you'd like one, I'll sign it and mail it off. Just e-mail me. |
Rosemary Jones
www.rosemaryjones.com |
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Ozzalum
Learned Scribe
USA
277 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2008 : 01:53:37
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A terrific artist friend just designed a bookplate for this book. If you'd like one, I'll sign it and mail it off. Just e-mail me.
I had to look up what a bookplate was. After all that talk about full plate armor it was a little disappointing to learn it was a decorative sticker. |
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Ozzalum
Learned Scribe
USA
277 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 02:55:37
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 19:14:12
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Originally posted by Ozzalum
I had to look up what a bookplate was. After all that talk about full plate armor it was a little disappointing to learn it was a decorative sticker.
At least you don't have to worry about Rust Monsters or even paying the servants to keep it polished. 
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Rosemary Jones
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 19:21:50
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I got a message that somebody tried to e-mail me through the forum and it wouldn't work. And when I tried to e-mail back through the forum, I got a note that I didn't have enough posts to e-mail members directly.
I love hearing from readers and will try to check for messages here at least once a week. However, if you need a faster response, you can find my direct e-mail at my website (address listed below my signature).
Happy 2008! |
Rosemary Jones
www.rosemaryjones.com |
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Matthus
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 13:33:16
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I wasn’t able to put my two cents for the chapters or having much new to add now, but I liked the book nonetheless very much.
Sometimes it’s good to read that even a shining hero can be reduced to “underwear” and keep going on – I have to recommend the book to all my players, when they next whine about their gear
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jan 2008 : 03:00:50
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
[quote]Originally posted by Ozzalum
I was impressed at the use of a Rust Monster. That creature is so meta-gamey I thought it could never be worked into a novel without being an obvious way to weaken the protagonist before a big fight. And then you used it to make Sanval Manynames feel bad about not looking spiffy anymore. Good stuff.
I just loved Sanval's armor but I felt he really needed a crisis of heart and wardrobe at the end. And, somehow, when you have shiny armor, you just need to have rust -- at least in my view of the world.
Thanks for the thoughtful comments. A terrific artist friend just designed a bookplate for this book. If you'd like one, I'll sign it and mail it off. Just e-mail me.
I got mine. Very Cool! Thanks so much Rosemary!! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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ldebie
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Posted - 21 Jan 2008 : 23:27:41
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| Ours came too, along with a gracious note from the author herself. Thanks Rosemary! |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 : 04:47:51
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Glad people are enjoying the bookplates. I've got plenty so if anyone wants one, just drop me an e-mail.
Matthus: players should never whine to their DM. Unless it's me and I get to whine when I like :)
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2008 : 17:01:16
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
Glad people are enjoying the bookplates. I've got plenty so if anyone wants one, just drop me an e-mail.
Matthus: players should never whine to their DM. Unless it's me and I get to whine when I like :)
That is the dwarf's pup on the bookplate right? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Jan 2008 : 13:51:19
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
Glad people are enjoying the bookplates. I've got plenty so if anyone wants one, just drop me an e-mail.
Matthus: players should never whine to their DM. Unless it's me and I get to whine when I like :)
That is the dwarf's pup on the bookplate right?
I willing to believe it is Ms. Wiggles on the bookplate. I would bet a old ham bone on it.
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I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 04:04:16
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Matt Holmes, a terrific young artist currently studying here in Seattle, did the drawing for me. He took home my descriptions of Wiggles and came up with drawing that you see. I just loved it when I saw it!
If you haven't seen the bookplate yet, the picture can be seen on my website. |
Rosemary Jones
www.rosemaryjones.com |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 16:49:01
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Summed up with as few words as possible: A great read!
I have difficulty chiming in on books in parts, so I usually wait till I finish before I comment on a book. The first (and possibly negative item, but not on the author's part) to comment on is the teaser in the front cover. After reading the three paragraphs, I knew what was happening when the Siegebreakers found the dead bugbear body, and later with the tracks they found. I did think at the time that Fottergrim was in the second party, following Archlis, but it was only a group he sent after the magelord.
Like everyone else, pets are never mentioned enough in the Realms. As a dog lover, I really like Mumchance, and the dynamics within the Siegebreakers was great. "It's a good day when everyone comes home" is a good tagline, almost Firefly-like.
The light hearted tone is also a very welcome breath of fresh air. I get tired of the RSE-style, the-world-will-be-destroyed-if-the-evil-isn't-stopped style of writing. I wouldn't classify this as humor (it isn't that light-hearted), but the tone is wonderful.
The style of writing and pacing (which could be considered part of style) also work for me. That is a matter of opinion, but the book has action in a few places and talk in others that blend very well together. It wasn't all action or all talk and blending the two, with the characters the author created, was a great mix.
I also appreciate the lack of meta-gaming in the book. When Sanval met the rust monster, he didn't know what it was or how to get past it. When the Siegebreakers met the dread, they knew what it was from a past encounter with another dread. And Wiggles had to be a part of the action, too. Each encounter wasn't the sort of "oh, it is this creature, we do this action and kill it" sort of thing.
The Siegebreakers also use their intelligence in encounters. Against the dread, the trap with the crushing ceiling, and the encounter with the blind-creatures-with-big-ears that I cannot remember their name are all handled quite well.
Overall, a must read book. |
"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."
"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367 |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 04:43:47
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Another item of note about the novel. Maybe I am jaded by gaming too much, but most games I have been involved in have the pcs act in a mercenary fashion. Sure, we will save the town, but the dragon has lots of cool stuff! The last gaming group I was in I tried to do actions for non-monetary rewards and just do good deeds just to do them. It was a disaster and the group fell apart because of inner group dynamics.
It was wonderful to read about a group of people (not necessarily players, but close enough) who would take on an evil wizard for putting on the pressure on a bunch of pig farmers. Their reward: a few hams. I want to sign up for this group. I want to be a Siegebreaker!
It is the little things, like trying to get the money for a new roof for the barn because a wyvern was ill on it that made this book a delight to read. |
"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."
"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367 |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2008 : 18:42:42
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Originally posted by Mkhaiwati
Summed up with as few words as possible: A great read!
Thank you! It's really interesting to see what people react to. I do think that the goals characters have in novels have to be quite different from players in a campaign. I'm glad that worked for you.
And, although I love reading "the world will end tomorrow" books, from the moment I thought of this story, it just felt like it should be very small and personal, about these people achieving their own goals for the day rather than saving the world.
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Rosemary Jones
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 12 Feb 2008 : 21:29:55
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Originally posted by Mkhaiwati
It was wonderful to read about a group of people (not necessarily players, but close enough) who would take on an evil wizard for putting on the pressure on a bunch of pig farmers. Their reward: a few hams. I want to sign up for this group. I want to be a Siegebreaker!
I agree--by the end of the book, I was happy that everyone "got home safe", and I felt like I wanted to go home with them, too! I'd definitely love to READ more about these characters, at any rate. I want to find out more about them, how they live their lives, and I was finding myself rather tantalized regarding the mostly unknown sister (unknown to the reader, of course), Mimeri.
Definitely a wonderful novel. Rosemary, please check your email inbox...I would love a bookplate. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 16 Feb 2008 : 16:19:14
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I want to find out more about them, how they live their lives, and I was finding myself rather tantalized regarding the mostly unknown sister (unknown to the reader, of course), Mimeri.
Definitely a wonderful novel. Rosemary, please check your email inbox...I would love a bookplate.
Thanks so much. The bookplate is on its way!
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Rosemary Jones
www.rosemaryjones.com |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2008 : 23:33:03
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
Thanks so much. The bookplate is on its way!
You're welcome. Thank you for sending a bookplate! Can't wait to get it. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2008 : 00:26:41
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| Rosemary, I received the bookplate in the mail today. Thank you very much, and thank you for the lovely card as well. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 : 17:16:26
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I enjoyed reading the book, but I didn’t like the way it ended. After reading it I realized that there wasn’t anything that surprised me ore made me think deeper over what had happened in the history.
One thick I liked was the way you described the mage eager fore getting the Moaning Diamond, and the way he saw others around him.
It wasn’t bad - but it wasn’t good either.
Vic
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Victor Ograygor The Assassin and Candel keeps cellar master
Everything I need to know about life I learned from killing smart people.
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 05:31:23
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I enjoyed reading the book, but I didn’t like the way it ended. After reading it I realized that there wasn’t anything that surprised me ore made me think deeper over what had happened in the history.
I'm not a world-changer writer, at least in not in this novel
Try Ed's Neversfall. I think you might like that; it's a great exploration of that part of the Realms. |
Rosemary Jones
www.rosemaryjones.com |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 13 Jun 2008 : 08:07:56
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Rosemary, congratulations! The Dungeons were all great reads, but yours is by far the best of the lot. It even had a romantic ending. And as The Flash always says: "Nobody dies!" I loved the fact that Wiggles was both a pet and a possible liability with all the yapping. I loved how it was her chewing on the dread that disenchanted it. I loved the absolute chaos and culture shock induced misunderstanding atop the walls. I loved how Archlis didn't get out of the way of the wall, like the 'breakers would have known through past experience. Everything was nicely wrapped up, except for one nagging question... Okay, make that two: just how did Ivy get her Bluff skill so high and when is your next novel coming out?
P.S. I'd love a bookplate, but am not going to burden you with the postage.
*scampers off to go and re-read your short story in Realms of the Dragons II* |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 11:38:05
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Originally posted by Kyrene
just how did Ivy get her Bluff skill so high and when is your next novel coming out?
P.S. I'd love a bookplate, but am not going to burden you with the postage.
*scampers off to go and re-read your short story in Realms of the Dragons II*
First. my apologies for taking so long to get back to you. I've been a bit swamped this summer with various projects including changing my day job, going to a family reunion, and a few other things.
IMO, Ivy was born with a very good bluffing skill, which wrangling the Siegebreakers has only strengthened.
As I state on my website, I'm happy to mail my bookplate anywhere! So don't worry about the postage -- if you think it is truly awesome, recommend the book to a friend, that's thanks enough. It's probably best to go to my website and e-mail me through the address posted there. I'm trying to get back into the forum but it may not be as frequently as I'd like for the next couple of months.
Thanks again for the nice comments!
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Rosemary Jones
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 07:09:05
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
As I state on my website, I'm happy to mail my bookplate anywhere!
Just to publically say, Rosemary Jones is teh besto! I got my bookplate—and a very nice written card—in the mail on Thursday. I would have been on here, giving thanks, earlier, but my internet has been down until now. Once again, much thanks Rosemary! |
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Tremaine
Seeker
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Posted - 31 May 2010 : 15:13:12
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just finished the novel it was a very fun read!
I liked how ivy was asking for Fottergrim to Fottergrim in his castle, and her negations with the Thultry over Sanval lending his armour to a bugbear very amusing
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skychrome
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Posted - 02 Jun 2010 : 21:35:33
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| Yeah, the two bugbears were great and I also liked very much the long ending after the final fight! This should actually be used much more in FR novels: not cutting the book off fast, but continue some time after the story's end with the heroes in peace times. |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 04:10:37
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I must admit the ending lasted so long because I had a very hard time saying goodbye to these characters. I always wanted to take them to Procampur for another adventure.
Best,
Rosemary |
Rosemary Jones
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 19:23:10
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
I must admit the ending lasted so long because I had a very hard time saying goodbye to these characters. I always wanted to take them to Procampur for another adventure.
Well, good for us! I really really liked this long end. And it really contributed to wanting to pull out dice and character sheet because it gave this adventure group feel. Having finished an adventure, doing some stuff in between and prepare for the next one. Classical gaming group. And that's what missing in almost all FR novels. The end is just too short in general.
Edit: Actually the point is this: in a shared world setting, a long end permits to provide setting flavor without having to follow a story plot anymore. Just provide atmosphere and nice setting details. |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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