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branmakmuffin
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 09 Jun 2003 : 15:43:22
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| Whether used in a campaing directly ("Azoun V must die, and I want you to do it!") or in passing ("The 12th king of Cormyr? Embrold, doncha know. Where's my ale?), it helps give more depth to the world, even if players aren't going to remember it next week. |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2003 : 09:25:05
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As one of the people that did some tinkering on the Lineage of Cormyr, I can say that the utmost care went into making sure it didn't conflict, in any way, with any published materials considered to be "canon;" part of the redaction was to make sure that all sources were consistent with one another, and that even suggestions from published sources found their way into the document in one way or another.
As an example, here's a bit of how we built upon things. From already existing official Realmslore, here's George's list again, but with dates provided for some of the reigns.
26 to ??? Faerlthann
Imlon "the Touched"
Bryndar
Eskrius
Rhiiman "the Glorious"
Embrus "the Old"
Kaspler "the Learned"
Imbre
Sacrast
Daravvan
Dorglor
Embrold
Irbruin
Moriann
Tharyann "the Elder"
??? to 242 Boldovar "the Mad"
242 to 245 Iltharl "the Insufficient"
245 to ??? Gantharla*
Roderin "the Bastard"
Thargreve "the Lesser"
Holordrym
Belereve
Thargram
Besmra*
Torst
Gordroun
Keldroun
Berost "the Bold"
Gorann
Edrae "the Doomed Babe"
Ulbaeram
Silbran
Raerboth
Baerildo
Belmuth "the Bastard"
Sargrannon
Ortolar
Imbrus
Artreth
Zoumdan
Imbrus II
Meurthe "Mad Meurthe"*
Kasplara*
Jasl "the Royal Jester"
Arathra "the Little Spider"*
Barander "the Tortured King", "the Scarred Advisor"
Thargreve "the Greater", "the Peacebringer"
Jarissra*
Andilber "the Unfortunate"
c 376 to at least 389 Anglond (his son, Azoun, was still Crown Prince in
389; see Sea of Fallen Stars)
Azoun I "the Crown Prince of Battles"
From before 429 to 480 Duar "Longyears"
Galaghard I
Galaghard II "Father of the Dark Princes"
c 629 Draxius "the Neverdying"
Bryntarth I
c 900 Galaghard III
Rhiigard "the Mourning King" [Rhigaerd I]
Bryntarth II
c 1018 Arangor
Azoun II
Proster
Baerovus
Palaghard I
1187 to 1210 Pryntaler
1210 to 1227 Dhalmass
1227 to 1261 Palaghard II
1261 to 1277 Azoun III (note that the 1st Edition Boxed Set has Azoun III
dying in 1275 DR, but the later Cormyr: A Novel has him dying in 1277, "nine years ago" in Chapter 28)
1277 to 1286 Salember "the Rebel Prince" (remember, this one was a regent
that styled himself a king)
(1277 on) 1286 to 1336 Rhigaerd II [He had to wrest the throne from his uncle]
1336 to 1371 Azoun IV
1371 to present Azoun V
This will give you all some idea of where to place things chronologically. After all, it always sounds better to your players that a legendary sword was "forged in the Year of the Pacifist, during the reign of King Anglond of Cormyr," than to say "the sword is a thousand years old," doesn't it?
[By the way, this is my first post on the boards, so "hey! Great to be here," and all that.  ] |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2003 : 05:32:45
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Impressive.
Oh...and 'Welcome to Candlekeep'
Thanks for the welcome!
This particular work isn't all that impressive; this is just a listing of dates. The real work is when you start dog-earing your copies of well-written novels and underlining text in order to research them and find out where to place them in works of Realmslore. What's truly impressive is the vast amount of information that's contained in the works of people like Ed Greenwood, who is a master of both inclusion and concealment, giving us just thread enough to pull on. You'd be surprised just how much you can invent with just a little bit of Ed and only slightly more imagination. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2003 : 07:26:14
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| Glad I'm not the only one here who dog-ears his books. Of course, I haven't done them for the Forgotten Realms, but I probably do it too much. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2003 : 08:52:36
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I don't think I possess one FR accessory or novel, that doesn't have at least one dog-eared page. It is normally the first stage in my 'useful-tidbits-to-steal-for-my-campaign' process. It also helps to mark out relevant sections of text to forge some really great homebrew FR material.
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2003 : 17:02:08
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I will note, for the record, that most of my books aren't dog-eared. Most of my books, however, are also not used as references for my own research on the Realms. Those that are are gladly sacrificed on the high altar of Realmslore.
So long as it's in paperback, that is... |
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spooke
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 May 2006 : 22:43:52
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Originally posted by George Krashos
You can't limit yourself to the published sources! You should be obsessive like me and have photocopies of all FR dragon and Polyhedron articles in collected 3-ring binders for easy reference. You'd be amazed at all the good stuff there is out there.
-- George Krashos
Holy poop, you have the Polyhedron articles? I live in Denmark, and it's impossible to find them here. Could I ask you to email me a copy of the Moonsea articles? I would really, really appreciate it. Please? If it would be all right, I can give you the issue numbers.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 05 May 2006 : 00:22:14
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Originally posted by spooke
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
You can't limit yourself to the published sources! You should be obsessive like me and have photocopies of all FR dragon and Polyhedron articles in collected 3-ring binders for easy reference. You'd be amazed at all the good stuff there is out there.
-- George Krashos
Holy poop, you have the Polyhedron articles? I live in Denmark, and it's impossible to find them here. Could I ask you to email me a copy of the Moonsea articles? I would really, really appreciate it. Please? If it would be all right, I can give you the issue numbers.
- spooke
Actually, that would likely be a copyright infringement. It's kinda frowned upon, especially by lawyers -- and Krash is a lawyer (but we don't hold that against him! ). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2006 : 01:09:10
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Originally posted by spooke
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
You can't limit yourself to the published sources! You should be obsessive like me and have photocopies of all FR dragon and Polyhedron articles in collected 3-ring binders for easy reference. You'd be amazed at all the good stuff there is out there.
-- George Krashos
Holy poop, you have the Polyhedron articles? I live in Denmark, and it's impossible to find them here. Could I ask you to email me a copy of the Moonsea articles? I would really, really appreciate it. Please? If it would be all right, I can give you the issue numbers.
- spooke
Have you considered purchasing them from an online source -- paizo.com for example?
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