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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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 Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 20:08:42
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We had a topic in here already about who would be the most powerful spellcaster. So my question is who would be the best fighter on Faerun?
(Don't say Drizzt Do'Urden coz we all know he's good and everything but the drow ranger isn't that great in terms of D&D)
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 20:22:03
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| Dove Falconhand perhaps? |
~Lee N.
"Breaktime yes?!.. Yes?.. Maybe?.. Noo, baaack to work.." -Grovel the Goblin from NWN: HotU |
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Sourcemaster2
Senior Scribe
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 20:48:57
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| I think it deppends on who you consider a warrior. There are potent rangers and theives in Faerun, as well as paladins and assassin-types. They all use weapons, but are they all "warriors?" Also, just being able to fight well doesn't insure victory. Warriors, like spellcasters, depend on magic, they just have it in their gear. Enchanted armor and weapons give many of the most skilled fighters an advantage over others, and it can be difficult to tell if someone is just very good or has nice magical items. Because of this, it isn't easy to tell who's the "best." Probally the fighter with the highest level, if you use the stats given in various books, due to the fact that higher-level fighters are simply more skillful; that's pretty much what gaining levels is, becomeing better at what you do. |
But what have all the passing years/Done, but breed new angers, fears?/Show me now an equal worth/To innocence I earned at birth. |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 21:51:58
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Azoun, Zaknafain, Drizzt, Jarlaxle, Entreri
There maybe many I don't know for there are warriors everywhere |
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DrizztDoUrden
Acolyte
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 22:50:07
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| Perhaps Ryld Argith or Valas Hune are the best warriors in Faerun. There are many great warriors in the Realms |
I've sparred with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today
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Teflon
Seeker
60 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 23:42:45
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The Reaper aka Shuruppka Epic level fighter
Chosen of Gilgeam, IMO he defines assassin
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In any battle, the mightiest weapon is one that strikes unseen.
A Warrior or Wizard may be invincible in open battle, with their foes before them, but even they must sleep sometime, and cannot parry the knife that comes from behind.
-The life of a assassin. |
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Maskanodel
Acolyte
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 01:33:48
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| As Teflon said, I think Lord Shurruppak is probably the most powerful warrior. In game terms, he has 20 levels of Fighter plus levels in rogue and wizard for a overall level of 30. Plus, he's insane, making him exteremyl unpredictable in battle and the whatnot. |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 01:57:25
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| I aggree, Shurruppak the Reaper of Unther most be the top dog. The leader of the Nar tribes was a lvl 30 fighter in 2nd edition days. He would be up there as well. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 04:17:55
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Hmmm... I've never heard of him. Can anyone give me some info on him?
Sourcemaster, when I use the term "warrior", I guess its for non-magic users. As for finding out who's the best, it's really not that hard. If I pit Drizzt Do'Urden against a common watch officer, it's quite obvious who's going to win, right? Yes, magical items are a major factor but it's the same as in the topic of "the best spell-caster". |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 04:45:56
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Hmmm... I've never heard of him. Can anyone give me some info on him?
Sourcemaster, when I use the term "warrior", I guess its for non-magic users. As for finding out who's the best, it's really not that hard. If I pit Drizzt Do'Urden against a common watch officer, it's quite obvious who's going to win, right? Yes, magical items are a major factor but it's the same as in the topic of "the best spell-caster".
DDH_101, if you've got a copy of the ELH, flip to the appendix on FR characters.
Also, if you've got a copy of ToB with cheats enabled, try generating item "plat22". |
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Sourcemaster2
Senior Scribe
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 05:28:51
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| Even excluding magic items, there is much to consider. A fighter is a great warrior in direct confrontation, but a thief can kill quickly and effectively from the shadows. It then becomes very difficult to decide who is better, unless you choose what you are basing that on. Many characters can defeat a lot of enemies, but are themselves vulnerable in other ways. If you judge one character directly against another of the same class, just go by level, but otherwise you can't really prove it one way or another, unless there is a great difference in levels. |
But what have all the passing years/Done, but breed new angers, fears?/Show me now an equal worth/To innocence I earned at birth. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 05:31:51
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Arivia, I know of the item. But there isn't much info on the actual person.
BTW, what's ELH? |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 05:36:51
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Arivia, I know of the item. But there isn't much info on the actual person.
BTW, what's ELH?
The Epic Level Handbook. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1715 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 19:50:18
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Can't even hazard a guess as to the toughest combatant in the Realms, as there's too many factors to consider.
That said (and following the literal translation of the topic), the most powerful warrior in the Realms is most logically the Regent Princess Alusair Nacacia of Cormyr. After all, she's the titular head of one of the most powerful countries on the continent, which grants her far more power than her sword arm alone. 
Steven
Who's too much an English teacher to not use grammar as a way to make a point. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 20:57:03
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| Steven, when I made this topic, I wanted to know who was the most powerful in terms of combat, not social or political powers. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 21:29:59
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Oh! Don't forget Hamsetis. He was the one who was a slave in Thay and beat a Dracolich with a Quarterstaff once.
He's the leader of the Fangs of Set now. He was around lvl 30 as well in 2nd edition days. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 23:26:43
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| Cherrn, in 3E, Hamsetis is only a level 17 fighter and a level 5 assassin. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 23:55:59
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Blah they ruined him :(
He's still good though. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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zhentar reborn
Acolyte
34 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 00:51:33
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Yaman Khanan - chosen of Tempus anyone? KIA
The dearly departed King Azoun IV  KIA
so that leaves..........
The High Blade of Mulmaster!!!!!
But if I know my FR, it probably some do-good, stick-in-the-mud Harper  |
Think what you've always thought, and you'll be what you've always been. |
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RogueAssassin
Learned Scribe
USA
207 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2004 : 14:25:56
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2 words: Thibbledorf Pwent. He may not be the highest lvl ftr, and by no means is he the smartest or most carismatic but he can kill you with his friggin helmet. His armor is razor sharp and I dont even think he carrys around a weapon(other than his armor).
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"Spirit. Its a Heros strength, a mothers resiliance, and the poor mans armor. It cannot be broken and it cannot be taken away. This i must belive"---Drizzt Do'Urden |
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
246 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 16:14:55
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Hmm... I'd have to go with Shuruppak as well. A pity Naergoth Bladelord and Grand Duke Eltan got nerfed in the transition to 3E (okay, they were just 22nd-level fighters, which doesn't match against Shuruppak Ftr20/Rog3/Wiz7, but even so...).
But if we take into account dead people, then Coronal Eltargrim (Myth Drannor's ruler, a F25/W19 high elven mage) would hand Shuruppak his head. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 17:35:36
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| Can anyone post some info and stats on Shuruppak? I don't know anything about him other than seeing his armour appear in ToB. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Teflon
Seeker
60 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 19:10:06
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His weapon is a +4 keen unholy vorpal greatsword; a natural 20 and off goes the head, I would give him the edge on anyone even Eltagrim, but anyways.
Heres some info on him, I'm not to sure about posting his exact stats from the book, It violates copyright I think. But heres a portion.
The former Chosen of Gilgeam, Shuruppak is still a force to be reckoned with in Unther, even since his patron deity's demise. While Gilgeam still lived, Shuruppak was an assassin, the enforcer of Gilgeam's will and law. Known as "the Reaper," he wandered among the cities of Unther, killing anyone he identified as an enemy of Gilgeam. Even in those days, he was a psychopath prone to fits of extreme violence; since Gilgeam's death, he has lost any vestige of sanity he still possessed. Shuruppak still wears the garb of his former office: black robes and a hood adorned with a magical red skull mast that covers the top half of his face. He seems to revel in the terror his appearance causes among the natives of Unther whom he terrorized for so long. Despite the fact that he is considered an outlaw against the occupying forces of Mulhorand, he travels freely through both free and occupied Unther, no one daring to law a hand on him. He is being actively courted by both the church of Tiamat and the Red Wizards of Thay, both of whom would like to see Unther again regain its independence from Mulhorand. He seems reluctant to have anything to do with the goddess who killed his patron, and he has recieved the Thayans no more warmly. He remains a wild card in the complex political schemes that will shape Unther's future.
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In any battle, the mightiest weapon is one that strikes unseen.
A Warrior or Wizard may be invincible in open battle, with their foes before them, but even they must sleep sometime, and cannot parry the knife that comes from behind.
-The life of a assassin. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 20:06:56
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Violate copyrights? That's the first time I heard someone worry about that...
So Shuruppak is still alive in Unther but he's insane right now? |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Teflon
Seeker
60 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 21:15:37
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| Yeah he still roams around Unther and hes lost all of his pervious sanity. |
In any battle, the mightiest weapon is one that strikes unseen.
A Warrior or Wizard may be invincible in open battle, with their foes before them, but even they must sleep sometime, and cannot parry the knife that comes from behind.
-The life of a assassin. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 00:09:38
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Violate copyrights? That's the first time I heard someone worry about that...
I've seen it come up. Below is Alaundo's comments on the subject:
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Emailing material to another member is no problem as it is between two personalities and not shared on the web. However, posting the information on the forum is permitted within reason. You must use the "Quote" function and state the source of the information. Even then, only sparse information should be given, not full sections of text
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Michele
Acolyte
Italy
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Posted - 22 Dec 2004 : 00:33:36
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ABORDABE, Leader of the greatest tribe in Narfell.
30th level fighter, 'nuff said.
But I'll give all my odds to Eltan of the Flaming Fist mercenary company, as it was described in the 1st edition grey box. WHOAH!!!
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Michele
Acolyte
Italy
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Posted - 22 Dec 2004 : 00:36:47
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Originally posted by zhentar reborn
Yaman Khanan - chosen of Tempus anyone? KIA
Are Yamun Kahan's stats listed anywhere? |
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Alparon
Seeker
Turkey
67 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2004 : 20:13:24
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Duke Eltan????
well was he so great he could step up against Sarevok
if he is not just a game character Balthazar is a truly effective warrior(is he not?) |
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Lord Teclis
Acolyte
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 18:47:49
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| I would suggest Zaknafien Do'Urden (I know that he is now dead). Level 24th Fighter, massive SR (SR35) and more attacks per round than more or less any other stat'ed fighter except (funnily) Drizzt. He also had an intelligence of 16 so he was also a great tactician. |
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Corran Horn
Seeker
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 19:06:45
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16 does not make him great tactican. IMO the best warrior is Fflar.
Eltan is ''only'' 20. I could name couple more powerfull guys. |
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