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Naeryndam
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 15 Apr 2026 : 21:19:38
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So as the subject says... can Halisstra be saved? What would it take? Not planning a campaign or anything, just a mental exercise. Her endless torment (losing Ryld, being turned into... THAT, killing who was once her goddess, etc.) really sat poorly with me and even after all these years, I can't help but speculate on how she could be saved.
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Delnyn
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2026 : 19:12:23
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| I treat the LP series as a corporate hit job on Eilistraee. Turning Miyertari-based drow into surface eloves while they are still in drow cities in the Underdark?! Utter tripe! |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Apr 2026 : 18:55:31
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Originally posted by Naeryndam
So as the subject says... [...] really sat poorly with me and even after all these years, I can't help but speculate on how she could be saved.
Unfortunately, making any meaningful answer to this question would require the context (which is, plot of LP) to make sense. And, well, it's LP... Candlekeep had it kicked all over at least one thread for being utter nonsense.
At best, we could try to make up some hypothetical plot, which would make sense both on its own and under continuity and lore of Forgotten Realms and Planescape, yet at the same time this question would still be meaningful within its context. And then discuss that. But what's the point?
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Originally posted by Delnyn
I treat the LP series as a corporate hit job on Eilistraee.
It was also done by an author who already known to produce texts one notch above "soapbox" style tumblrfic and care little about continuity/lore in general... but the grand "plot" itself does look like it came from the Pointy-Haired Ones directly, indeed.
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Turning Miyertari-based drow into surface eloves while they are still in drow cities in the Underdark?! Utter tripe!
Well, yeah. That subplot is on the level where it must be either a deliberate insult to the readers' intelligence, or a symptom of, ahem, inability to grasp the concept of insulting anyone's intelligence. Of course, results of creativity-by-committee could fall under both. |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 17 Apr 2026 : 21:58:21
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Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Naeryndam
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2026 : 00:28:50
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| I agree with everyone and their opinions on this but... this isn't really answering my question lol. Can anyone think of a way in which Halisstra could be saved? |
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Delnyn
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2026 : 00:45:31
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Originally posted by Naeryndam
Can anyone think of a way in which Halisstra could be saved?
By ignoring LP altogether and the concept of Halisstra needing any saving vanishes in a puff of logic.*
*Apologies to Douglas Adams for the ripoff quote. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Apr 2026 : 01:19:46
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Originally posted by Naeryndam
I agree with everyone and their opinions on this but... this isn't really answering my question lol. Can anyone think of a way in which Halisstra could be saved?
The problem is if you throw away most of the series as not credible, you need to come up with a different story as to why she needs to be saved.
A twice fallen priestess' best hope for being saved is another deity intervening. Perhaps one that that does not care much about loyalty? |
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Delnyn
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2026 : 11:52:10
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Originally posted by Kentinal
The problem is if you throw away most of the series as not credible, you need to come up with a different story as to why she needs to be saved.
A twice fallen priestess' best hope for being saved is another deity intervening. Perhaps one that that does not care much about loyalty?
If you throw away all the story as not being credible, the whole premise of Halisstra needing any saving at all does not apply.
Let's keep the Silence of Lolth and the quest to see what happened to her. The key difference in the new story would be the portrayal of Eilistraee and her worshippers. If you want to show Halisstra being tempted to fall from Eilistraee, focus on how Eilistraee wants drow to make friends, even with non-drow, just as Eilistraee has friends among "human" gods, namely Mystra and Selune.
Halisstra learns she cannot succeed in isolation. She needs friends. Yes, she most likely loses Ryld, but she makes new friends among the members of the Promenade. Qilue may reveal her status as Chosen of Mystra to Halisstra. That would teach Halisstra that even Eilistraee needs friends, all the more reason for mortals to do likewise. |
Edited by - Delnyn on 19 Apr 2026 11:53:49 |
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Salvation for Halisstra?
