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Beirnadri Magranth Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 17:56:07
So loregems are neat!
so far ive jeard of these types:
Kiira (MoF)
Telkiira (LEoF)
Selukiira (?)
Kiira N'Vaelahr (PGtF)
I forget, which tome describes the Selukiira (artifacts)
Can anyone tell me?

can anyone describe like how elves treat people they see wearing one? if i had a powerful wizard character witha Telkiira on his forehead what would be the reaction if he was walking down the streets in Evermeet. etc.

also since there is a kiira nvaelahr was there a kiira for the mage faction of myth drannors army?

are there any specific siluvanedenn kiira or sun elf themed ones (feel free to come up with one!!!)
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Dhomal Posted - 13 Apr 2006 : 07:02:22
Hello-

THis is horribly off-topic - but it has been advanced by some of the main "Movers & Shakers" - and I feel tha this is somewhat important to note.

I work in one of the large Bookstores. (Boo-Hiss - or Yee-haa as you will!)

What I would like to impart is - unfortunately - the FR books are generally not ordered in high quantities. They are not seen as big sellers (and they are not compared to other works, generally) nor are they seen as long-term sellers.

IN my store - most sales of FR paperbacks (excepting possibly Mr. Salvatore) occur withing the first 3-4 weeks of the release of the book.

Because of this relatively short time-frame, and the lower sales volume, it can take longer to re-supply these than books that are a huge success.

What I would suggest is a couple of things.

1) Try talking to your respective/chosen bookseller. Most will be able to tell how many are coming before they actually arrive. They may not be willing/able to tell you how many that is - BUT - if you try reserving one ahead of time - it helps them. I have actually contacted the home office on several occasions to get them to increase the initial allotment of some things that were (to me) obviously ordered at too low of a level. That way (by reserving it) you have a better chance to get one of the first copies that arrives - as opposed to having to wait for a re-supply.

2) I am also aware that some bookstores even offer the ability to reserve in-store books and/or place orders online for in-store pickup. This could be convenient if the store is a distance away from you.

3) See if you can determine in there are any staff at the store who themselves are FR fans. That would be a Great way to get some attention! Again - this would help with adjusting initial order levels. (ahead of time)

Mods - feel free to start a new thread if needed.

And to anyone - I'd be more than willing to answer further questions either via PM - or on a new thread.

Dhomal
The Sage Posted - 13 Apr 2006 : 03:52:43
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Maybe I should just move to the US .
Yeah, move here to the other Melbourne!


"Once Around Florida with Wooly Rupert and the Sage" .
Wooly Rupert Posted - 13 Apr 2006 : 02:57:26
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

True... but it still doesn't match the feeling you get when you can chat about the book at the same time every other scribe is reading it.


That's why I've not been doing anything in the Book Club. Thus far, only once have I been reading a novel at the same time as everyone else.

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Maybe I should just move to the US .


Yeah, move here to the other Melbourne!
The Sage Posted - 13 Apr 2006 : 01:12:23
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Ditto and I might not have it until after the book club is over.... I know Sage has mentioned this more then once. :)



Well met

Well as i've said before, a book club focus is never over. Posts appear on previous months book club threads periodically. They are never locked and anyone is free to post at anytime, not just within the actual release month. So i'll see thee both there then

True... but it still doesn't match the feeling you get when you can chat about the book at the same time every other scribe is reading it.

Maybe I should just move to the US .
Alaundo Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 23:17:03
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Ditto and I might not have it until after the book club is over.... I know Sage has mentioned this more then once. :)



Well met

Well as i've said before, a book club focus is never over. Posts appear on previous months book club threads periodically. They are never locked and anyone is free to post at anytime, not just within the actual release month. So i'll see thee both there then
Hoondatha Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 20:52:10
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I just hope the book comes out on time here... I've not done a Book Club yet, save for Realms of the Elves, and I had little to say on that one. The local Barnes & Noble usually doesn't get the new novels for a couple of weeks after the rest of the country.



Tell me about it. My local Borders still doesn't have Realms of Elves. I hate buying novels online, but it looks like I may not have much choice with some of these...
Kuje Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 20:32:42
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

That would be neato indeed .

Or rather... we can just bombard him with extra questions after the novel's been released... .




Well met

Indeed. Remember that Blackstaff will be entered into the Book Club here at Candlekeep, where Steven will be joining us in the discussions, so i'll look forward to thy comments therein, Sage



I just hope the book comes out on time here... I've not done a Book Club yet, save for Realms of the Elves, and I had little to say on that one. The local Barnes & Noble usually doesn't get the new novels for a couple of weeks after the rest of the country.



Ditto and I might not have it until after the book club is over.... I know Sage has mentioned this more then once. :)
Wooly Rupert Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 20:28:26
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

That would be neato indeed .

Or rather... we can just bombard him with extra questions after the novel's been released... .




Well met

Indeed. Remember that Blackstaff will be entered into the Book Club here at Candlekeep, where Steven will be joining us in the discussions, so i'll look forward to thy comments therein, Sage



I just hope the book comes out on time here... I've not done a Book Club yet, save for Realms of the Elves, and I had little to say on that one. The local Barnes & Noble usually doesn't get the new novels for a couple of weeks after the rest of the country.
Alaundo Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 19:30:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

That would be neato indeed .

Or rather... we can just bombard him with extra questions after the novel's been released... .




Well met

Indeed. Remember that Blackstaff will be entered into the Book Club here at Candlekeep, where Steven will be joining us in the discussions, so i'll look forward to thy comments therein, Sage
The Sage Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 14:41:54
That's certainly understandable... but WotC should also appreciate that fact that your return to FR fiction is something that has been highly anticipated by long time FR fans for, well... a very long time. As such, we're all bound to get very excited about seeing more of your work published in support of the Realms -- and pre-release Blackstaff plot questions are likely to pop up .
Steven Schend Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 13:59:20
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Those interested in loregems may be happy to learn much more about them (or at least one of them) in BLACKSTAFF.....

Steven




Well met

From the various snippets of lore which ye keep announcing will be in Blackstaff, Steven, i'm getting far too excited about this tome and am beginning to wonder how thou art going to cram it all in Who knows, mayhaps it will spark a sequel trilogy

That would be neato indeed .

Or rather... we can just bombard him with extra questions after the novel's been released... .




You're more apt to get answers out of me then, as well. WotC gets rather annoyed when authors talk about the novels too much before they're released and give away the plots et al. And while I've teased a lot, I don't think I've mentioned word one about the plot or what to expect beyond things connected to the title character....

SES
The Sage Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 01:52:41
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Those interested in loregems may be happy to learn much more about them (or at least one of them) in BLACKSTAFF.....

Steven




Well met

From the various snippets of lore which ye keep announcing will be in Blackstaff, Steven, i'm getting far too excited about this tome and am beginning to wonder how thou art going to cram it all in Who knows, mayhaps it will spark a sequel trilogy

That would be neato indeed .

Or rather... we can just bombard him with extra questions after the novel's been released... .
George Krashos Posted - 12 Apr 2006 : 00:58:41
He's found some ancient Imaskari lore and is using extra-dimensional pages to fit it all in.

I really, really can't wait to read this novel.

-- George Krashos
Alaundo Posted - 11 Apr 2006 : 23:13:08
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Those interested in loregems may be happy to learn much more about them (or at least one of them) in BLACKSTAFF.....

Steven




Well met

From the various snippets of lore which ye keep announcing will be in Blackstaff, Steven, i'm getting far too excited about this tome and am beginning to wonder how thou art going to cram it all in Who knows, mayhaps it will spark a sequel trilogy
Steven Schend Posted - 11 Apr 2006 : 22:33:02
Those interested in loregems may be happy to learn much more about them (or at least one of them) in BLACKSTAFF.....

Steven
The Sage Posted - 07 Apr 2006 : 02:28:33
The sources mentioned are pretty much it.

Both Steven and Elaine have touched on the loregems in their replies here at Candlekeep (Steven moreso), so you might consider searching Kuje's compiled files for such references also.
Beirnadri Magranth Posted - 06 Apr 2006 : 20:53:29
i have been really bad about reading Elaine's work, even though i liked daughter of the drow alot and that 1st magehound book. is there any other info on them (as in are they in any source 2e or 3.5 etc. or just her creation)
The Sage Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 02:02:20
We also have the Mhaorkiira (‘Corrupt Gem’) -- though the Mhaorkiira is only a corrupt, evil kiira stone (see Elaine's Dreamspheres).
Hoondatha Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 20:19:06
Elves *really* don't like humans or other races wearing tel'kiira, as they're essentially the souls of their ancestors, and they tend to belong to the oldest of noble families. Kuje is right, Elminster in Myth Drannor gives a good view of what happens when a human wears one. Note, however, that most do not have any racial restrictions, so it is possible for pretty much anyone to wear them.

Not so with selu'kiira. They blow the heads off the unworthy, or dominate them to take the kiira back to the High Mages.

The only one you'd be realtively safe with would be a kiira N'Vaelahr, since virtually no one knows they exist, and the N'Vaelahr recruited beyond elves during their short existence.

Oh, and wearing a kiira opening is considered the height of arrogance.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 18:27:12
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Cormanthyr Empire of the Elves and The Fall of Myth Drannor have info on the Sel-kiira.


And both are available for free on the Wizards downloads page.
Beirnadri Magranth Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 18:09:21
cool i have that cormanthyr book.... i really thought they were converted but i guess ive been delving into 2ed so much recently that when i saw them i... well w/e idk
haha thnx kuje
Kuje Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 18:02:41
Cormanthyr Empire of the Elves and The Fall of Myth Drannor have info on the Sel-kiira. I don't think they have been converted to 3/3.5e but I might be wrong.

Elminster in Myth Drannor has some good scenes on how elves react to non-elves wearing those items. :)

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