Candlekeep Forum
Candlekeep Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Active Polls | Members | Private Messages | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Realmslore
 Sages of Realmslore
 Gruulath the Beholder

Note: You must be registered in order to post a reply.
To register, click here. Registration is FREE!

Screensize:
UserName:
Password:
Format Mode:
Format: BoldItalicizedUnderlineStrikethrough Align LeftCenteredAlign Right Horizontal Rule Insert HyperlinkInsert Email Insert CodeInsert QuoteInsert List
   
Message:

* HTML is OFF
* Forum Code is ON
Smilies
Smile [:)] Big Smile [:D] Cool [8D] Blush [:I]
Tongue [:P] Evil [):] Wink [;)] Clown [:o)]
Black Eye [B)] Eight Ball [8] Frown [:(] Shy [8)]
Shocked [:0] Angry [:(!] Dead [xx(] Sleepy [|)]
Kisses [:X] Approve [^] Disapprove [V] Question [?]
Rolling Eyes [8|] Confused [?!:] Help [?:] King [3|:]
Laughing [:OD] What [W] Oooohh [:H] Down [:E]

  Check here to include your profile signature.
Check here to subscribe to this topic.
    

T O P I C    R E V I E W
Duneth Despana Posted - 25 Jun 2015 : 13:07:28
I've recently noticed that sometimes there are art pieces in the 3.X art gallery archives that are not rendered anywhere in their respective sourcebooks.
In this case I'm curious about Gruulath the Beholder (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20050209a&page=3 , http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/leof_gallery/86716.jpg) and almost even more so about the elven ruins he seems to be hovering about in.
If artwork got commissioned for him (her, hem, it...) I'm guessing that there was already lore written on this mysterious beholder, but that it ended on the cutting floor.

Can anyonoe help me in this investigation?
8   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First)
Duneth Despana Posted - 28 Jun 2015 : 10:06:48
But at least we now know what the interior of the Windsong Tower crypt looks like ^_^ Thanks a lot!
George Krashos Posted - 28 Jun 2015 : 01:02:42
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So he was just a random BBEG for the adventure, with nothing more noteworthy than a name?



Yep.

-- George Krashos
Wooly Rupert Posted - 27 Jun 2015 : 16:34:17
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Found it. The original "Cormanthyr" chapter contained an adventure titled "Windsong Tower Crypt", which featured Gruulath the beholder. Fairly linear dungeon with no realmslore or anything noteworthy in it. I recall it got cut as we used the room to put more lore in.

-- George Krashos



So he was just a random BBEG for the adventure, with nothing more noteworthy than a name?
George Krashos Posted - 27 Jun 2015 : 08:11:34
Found it. The original "Cormanthyr" chapter contained an adventure titled "Windsong Tower Crypt", which featured Gruulath the beholder. Fairly linear dungeon with no realmslore or anything noteworthy in it. I recall it got cut as we used the room to put more lore in.

-- George Krashos
George Krashos Posted - 26 Jun 2015 : 00:23:48
I'll check my LEoF stuff. That product had substantial re-writes.

-- George Krashos
Duneth Despana Posted - 25 Jun 2015 : 23:26:40
I don't believe it to be a mistake. Lady Syleda Krimmevol is another great example. I don't think that art would have been commissioned for her if there wasn't originally supposed to be more lore about her than what we got. I guess only somebody who was 'in house' back then would be able to give us an answer.
TBeholder Posted - 25 Jun 2015 : 18:35:51
quote:
Originally posted by Duneth Despana

I'm curious about Gruulath the Beholder (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20050209a&page=3 , http://archive.wizards.com/dnd/images/leof_gallery/86716.jpg) and almost even more so about the elven ruins he seems to be hovering about in.
If artwork got commissioned for him (her, hem, it...) I'm guessing that there was already lore written on this mysterious beholder, but that it ended on the cutting floor.

Was it mentioned in LEoF? FRindex doesn't show this name.

May be as a mistake. Sometimes galleries have mistakes.
Case in point: here "beguiler" label is duplicated, obviously none of them being one (a proper beguiler is on the next page)... "Luiren Marchwarden" also duplicated, and one of them is a kreen. And "Halruaan Elder"...

On the other eyestalk, LEoF gallery seems to be good.
On yet another eyestalk, Cloak & Dagger gallery has a picture explicitly marked as "(Web Exclusive)"

So my bet is on cut content too, but that's still a gamble.
Artemas Entreri Posted - 25 Jun 2015 : 15:39:24
Maybe these images were just extra renderings that they didn't have room for in the sourcebook but decided to post online to share anyway.

Candlekeep Forum © 1999-2024 Candlekeep.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000