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| jordanz |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 08:55:42
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| _Jarlaxle_ |
Posted - 07 Oct 2013 : 09:04:28
If you look into the epic level handbook it has a lot of monsters with high physical strength too. Xixecals with STR 66 or Force and Prismatic dragons with STr over 70 as Great wyrms |
| Drustan Dwnhaedan |
Posted - 06 Oct 2013 : 07:52:26
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Originally posted by jordanz
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Originally posted by Drustan Dwnhaedan
Upon seeing Lord Bane's post, I pulled out my 3e Monster Manual to see if his information was correct; it is. The tarrasque has STR 45, while a Gold Great Wyrm has STR 47. And in case anyone is wondering; Red Great Wyrm, STR 45; Cloud Giant, STR 35; and kraken, STR 34. (I only listed the creatures mentioned by others in earlier posts, aside from the Red Great Wyrm, whose stats I checked out while looking up the Gold's.)
In the 3e M.M. Were cloud giants stronger than Storm Giants? If so why?
Storm Giants(STR 39) were stronger than cloud giants (STR 35) in 3e Monster Manual, I just forgot to mention that in my last post (sorry if that caused any confusion). |
| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 20:02:50
Strongest novel character I recall was Wulfgar in 2e...fella was as strong as a Hill Giant!
I don't recall what it was called, but there was a dragon bound into the Great Wall of Shou-Lung...I would wager that a being that makes something that size that strong would have been perhaps very strong. |
| Lord Bane |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 15:43:40
Quale is right about the Zaratan. Weaker than the Tarrasque.
Of course every D&D monster could have been on Toril unless stated otherwise, but i am a bit more carefull. Canon wise we have to rely on what we know from sources, but in the games you can easily have a creature appear and give an explanation why it is where it is even though nowhere in canon it is stated. In the end i guess it depends if we go by canon or non canon. |
| Quale |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 15:30:55
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Originally posted by Lord Bane
Quale, now the question, do Time Dragons exist on Toril? 
I think all D&D monsters at least visited Toril, until those people with canon powers say otherwise (e.g. there was a story where all titans left Toril). Maybe Null/Guardian of the Lost is a time dragon.
Not a race, the Statues-That-Walk/stone colossi from Old Empires, converted to 3e epic rules they'd have Str 70.
stats for zaratan: Str 43 (from Arms and Equipment Guide) and aspidochelone (Str 32, from Pathfinder 27) |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 14:41:28
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Originally posted by jordanz
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Originally posted by Entreri3478
OP-are you asking for the physically strongest non-magical race or just anything goes?
Anything goes including outsiders, but it must be a race not unique beings.
P.S. how do ZODAR rank?
Zodar were never converted from 2E, that I know of, but as I recall, their STR in 2E was 25 -- and since that was pretty much the max in 2E, their STR in later editions should also be at or near the top of the scale
That said, they are not an FR race, which this discussion is about. |
| Lord Bane |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 12:39:14
Quale, now the question, do Time Dragons exist on Toril?
A Constellate is a phlogiston creature, no on Toril itīs self and from the text it mentions Krynnspace. Not that there could have some moved to Realmspace but they reside in the phlogiston and not on planets.
I have not found any STR numbers for the Zaratan but it appears to be stronger than a Tarrasque, who would have guessed. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 11:45:16
Anyone know how strong a Zaratan is? |
| Quale |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 09:14:46
3e: time dragon great wyrm Str 91 (from Dragon 359)
2e: constellates from Spelljammer, it can crush planets |
| jordanz |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 08:10:38
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Originally posted by Drustan Dwnhaedan
Upon seeing Lord Bane's post, I pulled out my 3e Monster Manual to see if his information was correct; it is. The tarrasque has STR 45, while a Gold Great Wyrm has STR 47. And in case anyone is wondering; Red Great Wyrm, STR 45; Cloud Giant, STR 35; and kraken, STR 34. (I only listed the creatures mentioned by others in earlier posts, aside from the Red Great Wyrm, whose stats I checked out while looking up the Gold's.)
In the 3e M.M. Were cloud giants stronger than Storm Giants? If so why? |
| jordanz |
Posted - 05 Oct 2013 : 08:08:14
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Originally posted by Entreri3478
OP-are you asking for the physically strongest non-magical race or just anything goes?
Anything goes including outsiders, but it must be a race not unique beings.
P.S. how do ZODAR rank? |
| Artemas Entreri |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 03:32:21
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Originally posted by Kentinal
There is also the question, race in Strength stat of an individual or in what the entire race can do because of numbers and perhaps knowledge? Physical trength the ability to build pyramids in months instead of years?
Indeed. Humans are weaker and less intelligent than other races as a whole but tend to win out because they out-breed them. |
| Kentinal |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 02:54:16
There is also the question, race in Strength stat of an individual or in what the entire race can do because of numbers and perhaps knowledge? Physical trength the ability to build pyramids in months instead of years? |
| Artemas Entreri |
Posted - 02 Oct 2013 : 02:23:11
OP-are you asking for the physically strongest non-magical race or just anything goes? |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 23:23:12
Titans arent bad, especially if the godlike unique/named titans (like Atlas) are included.
Some of the golem subtypes are respectably strong as well. |
| Lord Bane |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 22:08:39
Head the words, kill the goldīs when they are still young! |
| Drustan Dwnhaedan |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 21:15:11
Upon seeing Lord Bane's post, I pulled out my 3e Monster Manual to see if his information was correct; it is. The tarrasque has STR 45, while a Gold Great Wyrm has STR 47. And in case anyone is wondering; Red Great Wyrm, STR 45; Cloud Giant, STR 35; and kraken, STR 34. (I only listed the creatures mentioned by others in earlier posts, aside from the Red Great Wyrm, whose stats I checked out while looking up the Gold's.) |
| Lord Bane |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 14:04:36
They are weaker than a Great Gold Dragon Wyrm, as i said, they are even stronger than a tarrasque and thatīs something to ponder on because tarrasques are portrayed as the ultimate destroyers due to their size when they are awake. |
| Thauranil |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 13:51:54
I would think that Kraken have the greatest physical strength in the realms. They are certainly the largest creatures on it. |
| Lord Bane |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 12:15:56
Gold Dragons(Great Wyrm), even stronger than the Tarrasque. |
| _Jarlaxle_ |
Posted - 01 Oct 2013 : 11:26:53
If you leave out outsiders, I would say cloud giants and dragons are pretty high in the scale |
