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| varyar |
Posted - 31 Jan 2012 : 21:17:54
Hi all,
I'm starting to get back into the Realms again after a few years away from it, and skimming through my copy of Grand History, I noticed that it starts with the end of the great ice age and the sketchy rise of the Creator Races. Is there any canon information or informed speculation about what was going on before that? What, if anything, do we know about the ice age and whatever preceded it? |
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| Ayrik |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 04:34:45
Those pesky halfling vermin are already dangerous, likely to steal your dagger then throw it into your back. Not as bad as kender, but not too far off. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 02:50:08
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
Oh lord. Where? In the shadows of Westgate, scurrying about, ever-ready to take a bite of flesh from your heels?
Well, it's said that Westgate's sewers are home to horrible monsters and nefarious critters.
Cannibalistic blood-lusting halflings could find purchase there. |
| Arivia |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 02:22:11
Oh lord. Where? In the shadows of Westgate, scurrying about, ever-ready to take a bite of flesh from your heels? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 02:20:02
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
As long as there's cannibalistic halflings in Toril's now I'll be happy.
I've always been tempted to adapt the Jerren from 3e's Book of Vile Darkness for the Realms.
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| Arivia |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 01:37:59
As long as there's cannibalistic halflings in Toril's now I'll be happy. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 01:21:35
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
quote:
Originally posted by varyar
This Blue Age reminds me of Dark Sun's prehistory as I dimly recall it.
Well, Dark Sun is just Faerūn's distant future. They have a 'Tyr' region afterall.  jk, of course.
So long as there's cannibalistic halflings in Toril's future... I'll be happy.  |
| Dennis |
Posted - 02 Feb 2012 : 00:46:40
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis
Before Ice Age...there was Water Age!
In fact, you're quite right Dennis. The ice age itself was known as the Shadow Epoch, a period of global glaciation precipitated by Dendar the Night Serpent devouring Toril's sun.
Prior to the Shadow Epoch, much of the world was covered in water. The dominant civilizations during the Blue Age were peopled by progenitor Batrachi and aboleths.
Interesting. I suppose Auril dreams of the day when she can reset the time back to Ice Age. |
| Brian R. James |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 18:30:07
quote:
Originally posted by varyar
This Blue Age reminds me of Dark Sun's prehistory as I dimly recall it.
Well, Dark Sun is just Faerūn's distant future. They have a 'Tyr' region afterall. jk, of course. |
| varyar |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 18:08:01
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
In fact, you're quite right Dennis. The ice age itself was known as the Shadow Epoch, a period of global glaciation precipitated by Dendar the Night Serpent devouring Toril's sun.
Prior to the Shadow Epoch, much of the world was covered in water. The dominant civilizations during the Blue Age were peopled by progenitor Batrachi and aboleths.
This Blue Age reminds me of Dark Sun's prehistory as I dimly recall it. Didn't they have a watery world in the beginning, too, and then the halflings did something weird to create a more typical green planet?
As for Faerun's Blue Age, hm. I think you could fit humans into there, on some small level. Fantasy caveman island dwellers worshipping Selune and Shar (and a few other primordial deities - Mystra in whatever incarnation she had back then, Chauntea, a sun god, and a death god, perhaps?) |
| Markustay |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 16:47:20
Better known as The People of the First Sun? |
| Brian R. James |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 16:26:57
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis
Before Ice Age...there was Water Age!
In fact, you're quite right Dennis. The ice age itself was known as the Shadow Epoch, a period of global glaciation precipitated by Dendar the Night Serpent devouring Toril's sun.
Prior to the Shadow Epoch, much of the world was covered in water. The dominant civilizations during the Blue Age were peopled by progenitor Batrachi and aboleths. |
| varyar |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 13:13:04
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by varyar
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It was cold, very cold.
That's just what they want you to think!
Hey, it's pretty difficult to have an ice age when it's not cold!
... Away with your facts and logic! |
| Barastir |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 09:45:13
And Toril was dominated by huge furred (wooly?) mammals... Most people think they are all extinct, but maybe one or another persists in another place, maybe even in another crystal sphere... |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 05:13:52
quote:
Originally posted by varyar
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It was cold, very cold.
That's just what they want you to think!
Hey, it's pretty difficult to have an ice age when it's not cold! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 01:18:29
Serpent Kingdoms has a little as well.
I think your best bet is to ask either Brian James or Ed. |
| varyar |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 01:17:31
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis
Before Ice Age...there was Water Age!
Seriously, though, this could be a good one for Ed. You might want to drop by his thread.
Not a bad idea - done!
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It was cold, very cold.
That's just what they want you to think! |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 00:30:27
quote:
Originally posted by varyar
Hi all,
I'm starting to get back into the Realms again after a few years away from it, and skimming through my copy of Grand History, I noticed that it starts with the end of the great ice age and the sketchy rise of the Creator Races. Is there any canon information or informed speculation about what was going on before that? What, if anything, do we know about the ice age and whatever preceded it?
It was cold, very cold. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 01 Feb 2012 : 00:07:18
Before Ice Age...there was Water Age!
Seriously, though, this could be a good one for Ed. You might want to drop by his thread. |
| varyar |
Posted - 31 Jan 2012 : 23:58:34
Intriguing - thanks!
(I have the very vague notion of a human antediluvian (well, anteglacial or whatever the technical term would be) culture - they were a Creator Race, might as well give them some primordial glory!
Maybe.) |
| Markustay |
Posted - 31 Jan 2012 : 23:34:25
No canon AFAIK
I'd just call it 'The First Age'
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