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| Vendrin |
Posted - 13 May 2009 : 21:00:49
I've been looking all day offline and online, but I haven't been able to find any update on Ched Nassad after it's destruction besides a short paragraph on the FR wiki.
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Ched Nasad was founded by the noble house Nasadra. Ched Nasad was a powerful drow city in the Underdark which was overthrown by the machinations of Jaezred Chaulssin during the War of the Spider Queen. [1] The Jaezred Chaulssin tried to rebuild the city in the image of a non-matriarchal society but the death of their god Vhaeraun caused them to abandon this tactic and allow the return of Lolth-worshipping drow, though the organization still holds much power over the place.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, or is that all we know officially as of now? |
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| Dart Ambermoon |
Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 01:17:58
In all honesty...Luskan is far from the only thing in 4E I donīt understand...but as to why itīs still around? Might be because it did play a rather prominent role in some of the books of a certain novel series. Damn meta-campaign-desinging and all that. Ahem...you meant an in-game reason, didnīt you?
Well, as some Calishite assassin once put it in my home campaign : "īTis better to be knifed at home, than to be eaten by something you donīt know the name of somewhere you also donīt know the name of." Hmm, doesnīt really help...sorry. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 22:16:24
I actually don't understand why, in 4E, Luskan is still around. 4000 people, a useless harbor, and no government at all... So who is bringing food and other goods into the city? How do they get it into the city? What are they getting in exchange? Why are people still living there, rather than heading out to someplace where they're not likely to be knifed in the streets? |
| Janav |
Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 21:14:13
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Originally posted by Markustay
Yup.
Now it's just a slum.
Which doesn't make it a whole lot different then it used to be. 
Odour and dirt notwithstanding, I personally find a slum can hold a certain...filthy attraction; society reduced to it's desperate roots. grins |
| Markustay |
Posted - 16 May 2009 : 02:03:25
Yup.
Now it's just a slum.
Which doesn't make it a whole lot different then it used to be. |
| skychrome |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 23:56:30
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Originally posted by Markustay
Heck, Luskan went from a ruin to a viable city just between the two 4e sourcebooks. 
Oh, it did? I thought with 4e it went down the drain... so they already reanimated it?  |
| Markustay |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 04:46:30
<Meh>
I'm not so much annoyed at the re-use of names, as I am of the re-use of FR product names for core products.
I also get annoyed at the constant destruction and then re-building of towns, cities, fortresses, and towers. Usually by the time I get around to reading about the destruction in a novel, I've already read in a sourcebook how it was rebuilt. 
Heck, Luskan went from a ruin to a viable city just between the two 4e sourcebooks. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 03:54:07
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
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[ How many of these companies have used the exact same name three times, across multiple editions -- especially with products that are only broadly connected to earlier ones sharing that name?
Man, I couldn't begin to guess. But I might start a list with TSR, FASA, DC Comics, Marvel Comics, Edgar Rice Burroughs Inc., Conan Properties Inc., the J.R.R. Tolkien Discretionary Settlement legal entity, LucasFilm... I mean, c'mon--there have been multiple editions of "Archie's Pal Jughead." And I've been reading about the various Legions of Super-Heroes for over thirty years. Pick another nit, Wooly. You got not no case to make here, unless it's a case against corporately produced IP at large, in which case, you're in the wrong fandom.
Comics, novel lines? Those are your examples? That's not at all the same thing as making multiple different game products, with differing content, and slapping the exact same title on them over and over and over. Are you really going to tell me you think having three different Draconomicons, three different Drow of the Underdarks, and two or three different Manuals of the Planes is the same as multiple comic books about the same guy, or that it's a good idea to confuse your customers by not displaying the tiniest shard of creativity?
Your refusal to acknowledge a point is not proof of its absence.  |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 00:47:52
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[ How many of these companies have used the exact same name three times, across multiple editions -- especially with products that are only broadly connected to earlier ones sharing that name?
Man, I couldn't begin to guess. But I might start a list with TSR, FASA, DC Comics, Marvel Comics, Edgar Rice Burroughs Inc., Conan Properties Inc., the J.R.R. Tolkien Discretionary Settlement legal entity, LucasFilm... I mean, c'mon--there have been multiple editions of "Archie's Pal Jughead." And I've been reading about the various Legions of Super-Heroes for over thirty years. Pick another nit, Wooly. You got not no case to make here, unless it's a case against corporately produced IP at large, in which case, you're in the wrong fandom. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 00:16:56
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
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Yup. 1E was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set, 2E and 3E both shared the name Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and 4E has the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide. Which is a bit surprising, actually, given their love of reusing the same name over and over again. 
A love "they" share, to be sure, with pretty much everybody who's ever published a continually updated sf/fantasy world.
Really? How many of these companies have used the exact same name three times, across multiple editions -- especially with products that are only broadly connected to earlier ones sharing that name? |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 00:04:15
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Yup. 1E was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set, 2E and 3E both shared the name Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and 4E has the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide. Which is a bit surprising, actually, given their love of reusing the same name over and over again.
A love "they" share, to be sure, with pretty much everybody who's ever published a continually updated sf/fantasy world. |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 14 May 2009 : 23:57:19
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Originally posted by Vendrin
That's the 4.0 edition?
???
I guess. It's the latest lore. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 14 May 2009 : 23:54:27
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Originally posted by Vendrin
That's the 4.0 edition?
Yup. 1E was the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set, 2E and 3E both shared the name Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and 4E has the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide. Which is a bit surprising, actually, given their love of reusing the same name over and over again. |
| Vendrin |
Posted - 14 May 2009 : 22:49:52
That's the 4.0 edition? |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 13 May 2009 : 21:41:35
There's an entry on Chad Nasad on page 233 of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide.
The city has been rebuilt. |
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