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swhite58 Posted - 05 Apr 2007 : 06:17:14
I finally managed to get hold of a copy of the FR Interactive Atlas. It installed ok, and the viewer worked ok, until I tried using the globe. It crashed, and after that the viewer also kept crashing. I re-installed and the viewer worked agian, until I tried the globe...

I thought, maybe the updates would help, so I downloaded the first one. It says to put in the Atlas CD, but it refuses to recognise it - keeps telling me to put the disk in when it's already in.

Sigh

Has anyone else had these sorts of troubles? I'm trying to install it on a Dell laptop running Windows XP Pro SP2.

Thnaks

Shane
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Ashe Ravenheart Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 15:55:40
That's how I installed it on my Vista laptop. The only problem is that when I first open it, it gives me a message about putting the disk in. However, I'm still able to open the maps without problem.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 14:08:39
quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

Updating a tenday later...

Nada. Nothing I do to tweak the install process allows it to proceed, and (as far as I know) there's no way to access the map files without installing the Atlas.

The Andy Rooney quote still applies. Why did I become a computer tech again?



What I've found sometimes works (with other programs; I've never had an issue with the Atlas) is to copy the contents of the CD to the hard drive, and then install it from the hard drive.
Jakk Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 09:21:05
Updating a tenday later...

Nada. Nothing I do to tweak the install process allows it to proceed, and (as far as I know) there's no way to access the map files without installing the Atlas.

The Andy Rooney quote still applies. Why did I become a computer tech again?
Jakk Posted - 17 Sep 2008 : 19:51:06
Resurrecting a dead topic again...

I see that Brian was able to get his up and running on Vista, and that others have had essentially randomly distributed issues. I tried to reinstall mine after a few years on a nine-month-old XP system running Service Pack 3, and my installation locks up due to missing files. I'll try that trick with manually specifying the CD drive letter and see if that helps.

"Computers are wonderful devices that allow us to do a bunch of really cool things that we didn't really need to be able to do in the first place." - Andy Rooney (possible paraphrase)
Purple Dragon Knight Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 20:34:06
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

I've had mine for years, but always wondered if there was a site hosting a patch or update to include the most recent 3.X/3.5 stuff...



No, it's not been supported for a long time. You can still find the three updates on the Dungeon & Dragons Electronic Games Patches and Updates page, but the last one was done as a courtesy in 2001.

Thanks Wooly! works for me!
Wooly Rupert Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 14:20:09
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

I've had mine for years, but always wondered if there was a site hosting a patch or update to include the most recent 3.X/3.5 stuff...



No, it's not been supported for a long time. You can still find the three updates on the Dungeon & Dragons Electronic Games Patches and Updates page, but the last one was done as a courtesy in 2001.
Purple Dragon Knight Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 08:00:04
I've had mine for years, but always wondered if there was a site hosting a patch or update to include the most recent 3.X/3.5 stuff...
scererar Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 01:24:01
I am actually looking to off mine. I attempted on ebay, but it did not go the first round. I was selling it for the price I bought it. anyone interested, please PM me. I will even give a candlekeep membership discount
Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 21:59:58
quote:
Originally posted by Shottglazz

Incidentally, looking for a copy of the Atlas myself...



Unfortunately, you'll have to pay thru the nose for it, unless you get lucky. People that have the software, like myself, know what they have and won't let go of it. Or they will let go of it, but ask for way too much money for it on eBay.
Shottglazz Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 18:58:35
Incidentally, looking for a copy of the Atlas myself...
Wooly Rupert Posted - 19 Feb 2008 : 13:49:55
My new work computer was wonky... For some reason that I can't figure out, it would periodically (often after hitting a site with Javascript) start acting really weird; in particular, it often acted like it was out of memory (despite not seeing anything hogging all the memory, and having a good amount of RAM).

Anyway, we wound up with a brand new Dell that we had no particular use for... So I swapped machines again.

I just installed the FR Atlas. And again, I've had no problems with it. The globe works, and the installation of all the patches went just fine. Interestingly, the installer did tell me to make sure I had the correct CD drive, since there are two on this machine (a built-in DVD, and a USB CD burner).
Wooly Rupert Posted - 28 Jan 2008 : 20:57:43
quote:
Originally posted by McDeath

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

....The globe works. No problems whatsoever.......



So each patch worked fine? I've as of late been having the "Enter CD" problem as well.



Yup, no problems at all.

It occurs to me that the problem may be related to a combination of older installer programs and computers now having multiple drives. Back in the days that these programs were written, having drive D as the CD drive was pretty much a default thing, and installer programs didn't automatically figure out what the CD drive was, as they do now. So computers with something else as the D drive confuses them... Try typing in the correct drive designation, assuming it's not D, and see if that helps.
SirUrza Posted - 28 Jan 2008 : 19:58:04
Ok.. using Windows Vista Premium. Works fine, didn't even have to setup compatibility mode. I never really used the globe, it was cool but just found it easier to navigate video the map and the select an area to zoom in tool.
SirUrza Posted - 28 Jan 2008 : 18:58:36
See now you all have me wanting to install it and find out. I just use the map tool from Core Rules and view the map files in it. :)
McDeath Posted - 25 Jan 2008 : 23:17:34
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

....The globe works. No problems whatsoever.......



So each patch worked fine? I've as of late been having the "Enter CD" problem as well.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 09 Dec 2007 : 21:35:55
I've used it on CRTs and LCDs, at 800x600 and 1024x768.

I honestly don't see how the type of monitor would be a factor, and for me it's pushing it to think resolution would be.
LordArcana Posted - 08 Dec 2007 : 13:19:29
one thing i noticed is the monitor i use determines if the globe works. it will not work with my dell flat panel set at 1280x1024 resolution, but it will work at 800x600 res. also it works 100% when plugged into my old crt monitor.

Corey
Brian R. James Posted - 03 Dec 2007 : 19:09:28
It works on my new computer as well, which is running Vista
Wooly Rupert Posted - 02 Dec 2007 : 17:52:31
Resurrecting a dead topic... My work computer has been getting buggy for a while. It's because of the many programs I've installed, uninstalled, or deleted, and numerous instances of playing around in the registry, tweaking this or that and constantly using the machine as a guinea pig. I finally set aside a separate machine to be my test machine, and I managed to set aside for myself a brand new computer, without my boss noticing (the new machines were supposed to go to one department, but is it my fault I ordered them and forgot that one of the people had already gotten a new machine? ). So I built up the new machine, and of course put the Atlas on there, too.

The globe works. No problems whatsoever.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 06:53:07
kernel32: 5.1.2600.2945 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060704-2349), also modified three hours after yours (or at the same time, depending on time zones; I'm in Eastern).

globe.exe: 1, 0, 0, 1, modified 8-22-1999, 15:09
laethyn Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 05:49:40
One other thing (yup, the obvious), what about the version of the Globe.exe? (Usually c:Program FilesFRAtalas)
laethyn Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 05:39:24
I don't believe it is, and I've manually opened all permissions as well. Didn't change a thing.

How about the kernel32.dll in the same location? (It's a file I see when I try and debug the crash)

Mine is 5.1.2600.2945 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.060704-2349) modified Wednesday, July 05, 2006, 3:55:01 AM
Wooly Rupert Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 05:35:28
I can still check my work PC maņana, but it's looking to me like that file isn't it.
laethyn Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 05:23:58
I've got the same version, and mine is not functioning. Mine was modified Thursday, March 08, 2007, 8:36:28 AM

Wasn't sure if that was it. Just an idea ...
Wooly Rupert Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 05:11:22
The globe works on both my home and work computers. The version on that file on my home PC is 5.1.2600.3099, exactly the same as Brian's. The file was modified on 3-8-2007, at 11:36 AM -- which is odd, because I'm not home then ('twas a Thursday), and my girlfriend is computer illiterate.
Brian R. James Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 05:04:28
laethyn, my globe is not working. The version number of User32.dll on my system is: 5.1.2600.3099 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.070308-0222)
laethyn Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 04:52:57
One other thing:

If someone who has theirs working (and someone else who doesn't have it working) could do me a favor?

Go to C:WindowsSystem32 and right click on the file called User32.dll >> select properties

Go to the Version tab, then under the "Item name:" list, select File Version. Let me know what the full text is on the right under "Value".
3catcircus Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 04:32:49
On an unrelated note, make sure you back up your maps before each update is installed (i.e. a "core" map backup directory, and a "pre-update 1," "pre-update 2," and "pre-update 3" directory. There are a few maps which are broken after an update and the previous version of the map needs to be re-installed.
laethyn Posted - 11 Apr 2007 : 04:23:55
Is it possible this could be some really odd permissions issue? I wouldn't think so, as it seems to crash at accessing low level memory blocks. I dunno. Just odd ...
Wooly Rupert Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 19:34:49
Well... My work computer is fully up to date, save for the patches that came out today (which I will be installing, momentarily). Pretty much everything on this box is the latest and greatest, save for Adobe Professional and SnagIt. I do have an odd issue with IE not knowing it has Flash installed (FireFox behaves just fine, in that regard)...

Anyway, I just installed the Atlas, and the patches for it... And it all works just fine, including the globe.

And I installed it from a copy of the CD, since I didn't want to bring the original software to work. Interestingly, while applying the patches, the software told me to insert the CD -- and it included a note specifying to use the D drive, because my computer has more than one CD drive on it. I didn't expect that.

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