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| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 08 Jul 2005 : 03:30:25
My fellow scribes, what are the part of Realmslore that you think should have been covered in novels but didn't manage to make it into print. My question is prompted by the absolutely amazing news that Steven Schend will be writing Blackstaff, a story about the illustrious Khelbun, a character that I thought should have had a novel long ago, at the very least around the time that the Moonstars were founded.
What other stories do you think should have been told in prose form? |
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| Dennis |
Posted - 24 Apr 2010 : 03:13:37
quote:
Originally posted by Elfinblade
-Halaster! His origins and demise would be really interesting to explore.
He is quite an interesting wizard. I'd love to read about his life too. |
| Elfinblade |
Posted - 19 Apr 2010 : 21:44:54
-Vasen Cale, Drasek Riven (luckily that will indeed happen now) and whatever more Kemp decides to dish out in the Realms.
-Elaith, Elaith, Elaith.
-Lamruil and the establishing of the new elven realm, or maybe the lost children of Zaor and Amlaruil. The twins come to mind.
-Halaster! His origins and demise would be really interesting to explore.
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| Dennis |
Posted - 19 Apr 2010 : 19:00:42
I also would like to see the full story of Telamont's life...much like the Elminster or Drizzt saga. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 19 Apr 2010 : 18:55:27
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
I still want to see a novel about Larloch!
Same here. And since a lot of FR fans want an all out war between the reamls' most powerful villains, why not include the most powerful of all wizards (be it living or undead)? Maybe the story would go something like this:
Larloch, in his obsession with magical artifacts, is in possession of a rare, powerful artifact that draws energy from both the Weave and the Shadow Weave; and Telamont, Manshoon, Szass Tam, and Gromph Baenre conspire to assault Larloch in his haven and retrieve the said artifact. And since the artifact is just one, and therefore cannot be shared, these conspirators will JUST study it, attempt to create duplicates, and destroy the original.
Sounds good?
Well, I don't really care what the story will be as long as Larloch gets the spotlight and is given "justice."
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| Brimstone |
Posted - 15 Apr 2010 : 14:03:28
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by Shadovar
But Khelben's actions in the name of performing the greatest good also seem to conflict with moral values and honor itself. Its like how can a good and renowned archmage stoop so low to make deals with the Realms' most evil villain. It is simply like betraying his own dignity and honor for a simple deal with a evil villain.
Because there is such a thing as the greater good. Do you support the petty, selfish, uncaring Ildreth Marsilver for Gardlord of Proskur, or the benevolent, seemingly good-souled Nilder "Sablecloak" Arntarn who you know is covertly an agent of the Cult of the Dragon and is seeking to turn your little town into a cult stronghold? Do you make a deal with the loathsome Fzoul Chembryl of Zhentil Keep and give him the Scepter of the Sorceror Kings as long as he stops Zhentarim expansion west, when you know that the Lords Alliance needs time to bolster itself against the Zhent menace whilst also noting the portents regarding a long-awaited event of "good" soon to happen in the area that you are seeking to restrict Zhent access to? I'm saying that you do, because the alternative is even greater death and destruction.
-- George Krashos
So was the Event, the Raising of the City of Hope in the High Moor?
I may need to re-read Blackstaff... |
| Zireael |
Posted - 15 Apr 2010 : 13:02:45
What I would like to see:
1) Crinti
2) Crown Wars
3) Arilyn/Danilo
4) Elaith
5) Maura/Lamruil
6) Liriel
.... Well, most of them happen to be Elaine's |
| Aysen |
Posted - 24 Mar 2010 : 07:26:14
I'd like to see a trilogy where the protagonist was Nezram the Worldwalker.
The first book could give his origins and adventures leading up to him becoming a planeswalker. The second book would be about his adventures among the planes, while simultaneously showing the activities of his descendants the Nezramites back on Toril. The third book would be about his return to Faerun and set the stage for future ongoing conflicts with either the City of Shade or Deep/High Imaskar.
Alternatively, I'd love to see a 3.5-4th ed. novel that on the Moonshae Isles and their conflict with the LeShay of Sarifal and other foreign powers. Since the very first novels of the Forgotten Realms were about the Moonshaes, I'd like to see an update on them. |
| The Red Walker |
Posted - 11 Mar 2010 : 21:20:02
I still want to see a novel about Larloch! |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 01:03:29
I'd like to see stories on Elaith and Lamruil, the Crown Wars, and maybe more on Liriel Baenre. I wouldn't mind some individual stories on the Seven Sisters, either. I know they had the book, but what about all the time they were on their own? |
| coach |
Posted - 28 Feb 2010 : 00:56:00
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Lamruil and the Tree of Souls establishing a new Elven Kingdom in the extreme North
Gareth Dragonsbane and Co. escapades vs. Orcus and the Witch-King
Cult of the Dragon establishing the Well of Dragons
Semmemon and Darkhold
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| Shadovar |
Posted - 23 Jul 2005 : 05:28:01
I think there are some stories of the Realms that should be written into a novel:
1) The Adventuring Company of the Nine(very few information available on their deeds).
2) The Crown of Myrkul/Horns affair(something that still puzzles me).
3) Sylune's life and how she became an "undead" Chosen. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 21 Jul 2005 : 17:52:50
quote:
Originally posted by DeathRage
Lets see....what I wish to see.., here they are:
1) The Crown Wars, this historic elven war should be written into a novel.
2) Ao versus the Elder Eternal Evils? I am sure Lord Ao had struggled against them covertly, it is nice to see some evil on a par with Ao.
3) The history of Selune and Shar's private war.
4) The war between the phaerimm and the Sharn.
5) Anything related to the Elder Eternal Evils against Toril.
We don't know that the Elder Eternal Evils are at all comparable with Ao, power-wise. For all we know, he created them, to counter-balance the gods. |
| DeathRage |
Posted - 21 Jul 2005 : 12:46:22
Lets see....what I wish to see.., here they are:
1) The Crown Wars, this historic elven war should be written into a novel.
2) Ao versus the Elder Eternal Evils? I am sure Lord Ao had struggled against them covertly, it is nice to see some evil on a par with Ao.
3) The history of Selune and Shar's private war.
4) The war between the phaerimm and the Sharn.
5) Anything related to the Elder Eternal Evils against Toril.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 04:40:11
quote:
Originally posted by Shadovar
But Khelben's actions in the name of performing the greatest good also seem to conflict with moral values and honor itself. Its like how can a good and renowned archmage stoop so low to make deals with the Realms' most evil villain. It is simply like betraying his own dignity and honor for a simple deal with a evil villain.
We don't know that it was a simple deal, though. All we know for certain is that he's working for a greater good. If that means giving evil a leg up over here, then so be it -- so long as doing so is less damaging than the consequences of not doing it, in the long run.
Khelben is working against something that he perceives to be a great threat -- greater even than the Zhents or Bane popping back up. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 04:31:49
quote:
Originally posted by Shadovar
But Khelben's actions in the name of performing the greatest good also seem to conflict with moral values and honor itself. Its like how can a good and renowned archmage stoop so low to make deals with the Realms' most evil villain. It is simply like betraying his own dignity and honor for a simple deal with a evil villain.
Because there is such a thing as the greater good. Do you support the petty, selfish, uncaring Ildreth Marsilver for Gardlord of Proskur, or the benevolent, seemingly good-souled Nilder "Sablecloak" Arntarn who you know is covertly an agent of the Cult of the Dragon and is seeking to turn your little town into a cult stronghold? Do you make a deal with the loathsome Fzoul Chembryl of Zhentil Keep and give him the Scepter of the Sorceror Kings as long as he stops Zhentarim expansion west, when you know that the Lords Alliance needs time to bolster itself against the Zhent menace whilst also noting the portents regarding a long-awaited event of "good" soon to happen in the area that you are seeking to restrict Zhent access to? I'm saying that you do, because the alternative is even greater death and destruction.
-- George Krashos
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| Shadovar |
Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 04:00:33
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I've made the analogy before, but Khelbun's dealing with the Zhentarim reminds me of the "Tower of Babel" Justice League story, where one of Batman's villain breaks into his files and finds out special ways to deal with every member of the Justice League that Batman has thought up, and uses these plans against the League. The members of the League are shocked and outraged, and they even throw Batman out for a time, but in Batman's mind it was perfectly rational to have a means to stop each of them if they ever went bad or were not under their own control
The Harper/Khelbun situation is similar (and predates the above storyline by several years) in that the Harpers don't understand why Khelbun would plot behind their backs, yet Khelbun knows from his own perspective that everything that he did made perfect sense in his own grand plan to do the greatest good over the longest term.
But Khelben's actions in the name of performing the greatest good also seem to conflict with moral values and honor itself. Its like how can a good and renowned archmage stoop so low to make deals with the Realms' most evil villain. It is simply like betraying his own dignity and honor for a simple deal with a evil villain. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 02:38:20
I've made the analogy before, but Khelbun's dealing with the Zhentarim reminds me of the "Tower of Babel" Justice League story, where one of Batman's villain breaks into his files and finds out special ways to deal with every member of the Justice League that Batman has thought up, and uses these plans against the League. The members of the League are shocked and outraged, and they even throw Batman out for a time, but in Batman's mind it was perfectly rational to have a means to stop each of them if they ever went bad or were not under their own control
The Harper/Khelbun situation is similar (and predates the above storyline by several years) in that the Harpers don't understand why Khelbun would plot behind their backs, yet Khelbun knows from his own perspective that everything that he did made perfect sense in his own grand plan to do the greatest good over the longest term. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 17:18:02
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Vengeance
Is the third character the great Elminister or is it Khelben of Waterdeep? Wait a minute, I think what should had been covered should be Khelben's secret dealings with the Zhents and how he went on trial in the Harper's courts and his reactions in the court(no doubt frantic and defensive). This should be written and made known to all FR readers of Khelben's....uh......offenses and (pardon me if I say this) hidden crimes for dealing with Zhents.(who knows he might been often secretly moving from Blackstaff Tower under the noses of Lord Peirgeiron and His Lady to Darkhold or Zhentil Keep to make extra lucrative dealings with Manshoon and Fzoul-imagine Manshoon, Fzoul, Semmenon and Khelben seating togethe and chit chatting like old friends).
There was nothing frantic or defensive about Khelben's reaction to the charges. As I recall, his exact response was "Guilty as charged. All is as it should be. We Harp no more." (This was covered in Cloak & Dagger)
Whatever it is that Khelben is doing (which we will hopefully learn more of in Blackstaff), he has always acted for the greater good. Keep in mind, this is someone who helped found the Harpers -- both times, I believe. |
| Sandhrune |
Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 17:09:25
I would like to see a novel about Larloch. |
| Sir Vengeance |
Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 14:55:35
quote:
Originally posted by Tylas
quote:
Originally posted by Shadovar
Perhaps a novel about the Red Wizards would be nice, maybe on another Zulkir more stronger than Szass Tam and seeking domination of the Red Wizards or the rise/fall of the various Zulkirs of the Red Wizards. A novel on Zulkir Szass Tam versus Manshoon(hopefully the undead version of Manshoon) would be not so bad an idea as well. I had been secretly envisioning a war between them two.
Hmmmm.....Manshoon versus Szass Tam? I think a third character thrown into their fight to make it a three way war would be better and more appealing. The third character is up to everyone to guess....and let's see who has the answer that matches what I think the third character should be.
Is the third character the great Elminister or is it Khelben of Waterdeep? Wait a minute, I think what should had been covered should be Khelben's secret dealings with the Zhents and how he went on trial in the Harper's courts and his reactions in the court(no doubt frantic and defensive). This should be written and made known to all FR readers of Khelben's....uh......offenses and (pardon me if I say this) hidden crimes for dealing with Zhents.(who knows he might been often secretly moving from Blackstaff Tower under the noses of Lord Peirgeiron and His Lady to Darkhold or Zhentil Keep to make extra lucrative dealings with Manshoon and Fzoul-imagine Manshoon, Fzoul, Semmenon and Khelben seating togethe and chit chatting like old friends).
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| The Sage |
Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 14:19:29
quote:
Originally posted by Ethriel
Arilyn/Danilo's life, etc...
I think Elaine has a LOT to finish.
Elaine offered some possible story threads for Elaith in her own thread -
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Just curious: What episode(s) in Elaith's life would you most like to see told in short story or novel?
- His early misadventures in Waterdeep
- The development of his criminal "empire"
- His relationship with Azariah's mother (think Otello, except Desdemona actually DOES fool around...)
- His time in Tethyr, in which he cleans up some untidy loose ends (i.e., Isabeau Thione from DREAM SPHERES) and ends up championing the wood elves of Tethyr forest as a sort of (ruthless) elven Robin Hood
- "Return to Craulnober Keep," in which Elaith visits Evermeet shortly after the events of the novel EVERMEET, and considers rebuilding his ancestral home
- Elaith learns that Amnestria bore him a son, who, in a twist of cosmic irony, is more of a rogue than his father
If you wish to comment on any of these, then please post your reply in the Questions for Elaine Cunningham scroll in the Chamber of Sages.
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| Tylas |
Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 13:59:37
quote:
Originally posted by Shadovar
Perhaps a novel about the Red Wizards would be nice, maybe on another Zulkir more stronger than Szass Tam and seeking domination of the Red Wizards or the rise/fall of the various Zulkirs of the Red Wizards. A novel on Zulkir Szass Tam versus Manshoon(hopefully the undead version of Manshoon) would be not so bad an idea as well. I had been secretly envisioning a war between them two.
Hmmmm.....Manshoon versus Szass Tam? I think a third character thrown into their fight to make it a three way war would be better and more appealing. The third character is up to everyone to guess....and let's see who has the answer that matches what I think the third character should be. |
| Shadovar |
Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 12:57:00
Perhaps a novel about the Red Wizards would be nice, maybe on another Zulkir more stronger than Szass Tam and seeking domination of the Red Wizards or the rise/fall of the various Zulkirs of the Red Wizards. A novel on Zulkir Szass Tam versus Manshoon(hopefully the undead version of Manshoon) would be not so bad an idea as well. I had been secretly envisioning a war between them two. |
| Asgetrion |
Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 16:53:53
I would like to read more about FR Villains, and it would be absolutely fantastic to have novels about different Manshoon clones, as Wooly suggested.
Any minor Zhentarim agent or wizard would also do - a bit like Ed described a year in the life of an average level Harper agent in 'The Code of the Harpers'
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| SirUrza |
Posted - 16 Jul 2005 : 13:44:23
quote:
Originally posted by Ethriel
Arilyn/Danilo's life, etc...
I think Elaine has a LOT to finish.
Yes Elaine does, now only if the people at Wizards would wake up and smell the coffee. Existing authors, particularly Ed, should get to write about new characters if they want (poor Ed, stuck with Elminster.)
But there are A LOT of new authors that Wizards have brought in that are introducing a WHOLE slue of new characters, I don't see the reason to be telling Elaine they're not interested in older characters, particular since people want to read about those characters. Let's not forget the fact that it also means new readers will be buying the 5 previous novels (6 if you could Evermeet) to catch up.
Oh well, I guess there's just too much politicing in the offices and the only "old" characters that can see print are Chosen and Drizzt (not that it's any authors fault.)
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| Xandos Anskul |
Posted - 16 Jul 2005 : 10:03:14
I think if a Manshoon novel was done, it would be interesting to do it from the point of Semmemon. |
| Ethriel |
Posted - 10 Jul 2005 : 06:12:12
Arilyn/Danilo's life, the final fates of Isabeau, Lucia and Hhune, closure to the Thornhold cast, Lamruil/Mara and Kymil Nimeson, Liriel, Shakti, etc...
I think Elaine has a LOT to finish.
Bane's return, the Manshoon wars...a LOT of recent events
Might I also add a story of the mortal lives of Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul? |
| VEDSICA |
Posted - 09 Jul 2005 : 16:11:06
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA
Can anyone say Elaith!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Indeed, good choice. At least soon, we get to see a Dragon magazine story focusing on him.
I am aware of this,and I am somewhat happy about it.I'm just really being greedy,and want a more definitive novel/novels of his character. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 09 Jul 2005 : 11:58:10
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA
Can anyone say Elaith!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Indeed, good choice. At least soon, we get to see a Dragon magazine story focusing on him. |
| ode904 |
Posted - 09 Jul 2005 : 06:10:47
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA
quote:
Originally posted by Ethriel
Anything regarding the unfinished stories of elaine Cunningham
Can anyone say Elaith!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Agreed! I would remember i asked this in the questions to Elaine Cunningham, check it if you want to know is there coming, or ask her.
I would be pleased too
More of Elaith! |
