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Alaundo Posted - 04 Dec 2004 : 22:56:49
Well met

WotC have updated their product catalog yet again, and with another trilogy rerelease.

The Ogre's Pact (Twilight Giants Trilogy, book 1)

Realms of Dragons II anthology

Best of the Realms, Book II: The Stories of Ed Greenwood

Streams of Silver (The Legend of Drizzt, book V)

The Emerald Sceptre (Scions of Arabbar, book 3)

City of Splendors: A Waterdeep Novel (Cities Series)

Very nice artwork throughout, in my opinion. I'm surprised to see that City of Splendors is using the old format of the Cities series.
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Wooly Rupert Posted - 17 Dec 2004 : 11:27:25
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Check that, I just remembered that the Angel of Thieves (or whatever he was called, from the really awful sequel to the Avatar Trilogy) was the thief from the Twilight Giants books. But I didn't like Twilight Giants too much and I really detested those two books (Crucible and whatever the other one was called), so I'm sorry I don't remember more.



The name was Avner, I believe...

And I, for one, loved Prince of Lies and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad. They're two of my fave Realms novels, and much better than the Avatar trilogy they follow.
Hoondatha Posted - 17 Dec 2004 : 06:48:27
I read it, liked it in a really passive kind of way, and then donated it to the library a few years later. It was ok, but I never heard of the location before (haven't tracked down Giantcraft, either, but the territory isn't referenced ANYWHERE else, which bugs me, continuity wise, and do you think I can make this sentence any longer? :) ). The best one was the middle book, I think.

Check that, I just remembered that the Angel of Thieves (or whatever he was called, from the really awful sequel to the Avatar Trilogy) was the thief from the Twilight Giants books. But I didn't like Twilight Giants too much and I really detested those two books (Crucible and whatever the other one was called), so I'm sorry I don't remember more.
SiriusBlack Posted - 12 Dec 2004 : 04:44:52
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
She got stuck with a really bad long-distance calling plan?



I think she's pondering getting medieval on a certain gold elf.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 18:37:58
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by O Love
May I present: Farthest Reach. Thanks Brad, for finding this link...



Thank you for passing the image along. It looks very nice. Sarya doesn't look happy there. What on Faerun could be troubling her these days?



She got stuck with a really bad long-distance calling plan?
SiriusBlack Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 17:20:11
quote:
Originally posted by O Love
May I present: Farthest Reach. Thanks Brad, for finding this link...



Thank you for passing the image along. It looks very nice. Sarya doesn't look happy there. What on Faerun could be troubling her these days?
Nysgath Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 15:10:12
Looks pretty good. Thanks!
O Love Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 13:33:55
quote:
Originally posted by Nysgath

quote:
http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_las.html at least is what website indicates.


Is that supposed to be a link to the cover of Farthest Reach? If so, it doesn't work ...


As of now: Sure, it does.

May I present: Farthest Reach. Thanks Brad, for finding this link...
honorandglory1709 Posted - 11 Dec 2004 : 04:58:52
I was told by the people at Borders that Hand of Fire was being rereleased in trade paperback size may or june 05
VEDSICA Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 23:40:25
Elmonster,I have read The Twilight Giants trilogy,and I liked it.It was a minor trilogy.Not a RSE.It was set in a never explored region of the realms.It's main character was a firbolg.Never done before either.It's pretty much all about giants, whom until this trilogy,and after, haven't gotten much print except for cameo appearances in other trilogies.One of the characters in it has been mentioned as a chosen of a certain god.As always I say read it if you have questions about it.
Nysgath Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 21:36:39
quote:
http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_las.html at least is what website indicates.


Is that supposed to be a link to the cover of Farthest Reach? If so, it doesn't work ...
SiriusBlack Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 15:16:01
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal
http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_las.html at least is what website indicates.



From following that link, I take it The Farthest Reach will feature a great deal of action in the snow. Look grandma, it's Frosty, no wait, it's a Daemonfey. Run for your life grandma, that reindeer that ran over you will be nothing compared to this.
Kentinal Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 06:19:51
quote:
Originally posted by Nysgath

This is getting annoying. WHERE is the cover for Farthest Reach?



http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_las.html at least is what website indicates.
SiriusBlack Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 05:35:26
quote:
Originally posted by Elmonster

I hope that City of Splendors will be as intersting as splendid it's cover.



You can make something out of that cover? All I mostly see are black blurs like that ink-blot test.

Tester: "Tell me what you see Mr. Black." <holds up Waterdeep cover>

SB: "I pray to Eilistraee I'm not seeing the final cover for that novel."
Wooly Rupert Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 23:05:05
quote:
Originally posted by Elmonster

I hope that City of Splendors will be as intersting as splendid it's cover.

And what about this Ogre pact is it re-release? Who have read, what's the book is about?



I read the first book of that trilogy, and didn't like it. I wish I could tell you what it was about, but quite honestly, I don't recall enough to tell you. I think it may be selective amnesia.
Nysgath Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 22:57:56
This is getting annoying. WHERE is the cover for Farthest Reach?
Kuje Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 22:38:17
quote:
Originally posted by Elmonster
And what about this Ogre pact is it re-release? Who have read, what's the book is about?



Yes it's a rerelease and it ties in with the Giantcraft sourcebook from 2e, which dealt with Hartsvale a nation of giants far to the north. The stats for the main characters and thier enemies are in Heroes and Villian's Lorebooks, also 2e.
Elmonster Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 21:50:09
I hope that City of Splendors will be as intersting as splendid it's cover.

And what about this Ogre pact is it re-release? Who have read, what's the book is about?
VEDSICA Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 19:22:28
2005 looks as though it maybe a good year for us readers.I'm looking forward to all of these novels to come out.I am even tempted to buy the rerelease of The Twilight Giants trilogy.But I really can't wait for The Farthest Reach to come out.Is there any cover atr for it???
SiriusBlack Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 02:00:30
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=welcome/company appears to offer all contact links. Perhaps it might help (if this URL does not change).



I can't get the link to work, it keeps giving an error message.

Just kidding....and thanks for the link so next time anyone who wishes can try to inform the proper person(s).
SiriusBlack Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 01:58:44
quote:
Originally posted by DDH_101

The Scions of Arabbar series looks interesting, especially the cover of the third book, but I don't know if it's worth the money. I haven't read any of teh books. Can anyone give their opinion on this?



The series is great. Do a search for any of the titles utilizing the feature for this forum and you should be able to find a few threads where the series got very positive reviews.
DDH_101 Posted - 06 Dec 2004 : 01:53:04
The Scions of Arabbar series looks interesting, especially the cover of the third book, but I don't know if it's worth the money. I haven't read any of teh books. Can anyone give their opinion on this?
Kentinal Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 22:11:40
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack


You could try finding out if there is still a means to contact them and report the error. I recall, quite some time ago, I did that one time. It didn't seem to help speed the correction up, but perhaps that has changed my encounter.



http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=welcome/company appears to offer all contact links. Perhaps it might help (if this URL does not change).
SiriusBlack Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 21:58:33
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And you know, it's a sad fact that those errors are standard... No other site I visit is that bad with the constant errors.



I know, I know. If something new on their web site actually functions without any errors, I am surprised. But, it is free so....can't complain too much. Although it is surprising for a for profit company of their size to have such constant errors.

quote:
]Originally posted by Nysgath
Also, it seems like they would have noticed the mistake by now and corrected it. It's already been like this for a few days.



You could try finding out if there is still a means to contact them and report the error. I recall, quite some time ago, I did that one time. It didn't seem to help speed the correction up, but perhaps that has changed my encounter.
Nysgath Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 18:04:30
quote:
And you know, it's a sad fact that those errors are standard... No other site I visit is that bad with the constant errors.


Also, it seems like they would have noticed the mistake by now and corrected it. It's already been like this for a few days.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 17:51:54
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Nysgath

Why is it that whenever I click on Farthest Reach it takes me to the Emerald Sceptre?



Because it's a WOTC web page. Such errors are standard. Give it a few days and corrections should be made.


And you know, it's a sad fact that those errors are standard... No other site I visit is that bad with the constant errors.
SiriusBlack Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 16:45:52
quote:
Originally posted by Nysgath

Why is it that whenever I click on Farthest Reach it takes me to the Emerald Sceptre?



Because it's a WOTC web page. Such errors are standard. Give it a few days and corrections should be made. Until then, think conspiracy thoughts on how the two books could possibly tie in together and that WOTC is just trying to provide a clue to this fact.
The Hooded One Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 15:50:51
The reprinting you’re seeing here is what’s called “mining your backlist” in the publishing field. Reprinting older books under their existing contracts, upon which advances have already been paid, is a much cheaper way of getting “new” books in bookstore shelves (with new covers and sometimes even new titles) than contracting brand-new books, and unless most of the re-releases tank completely, this will help WotC’s bottom line (thereby pleasing Hasbro because WotC will “meet their numbers,” matching or even exceeding their prpfit projections).
The one downside for long-term Realms fans is that keeping costs low usually means no editing, not even obvious spelling and grammar fixes.
It does NOT mean that we see fewer ‘really new’ Realms novels because these reprints are ‘taking up slots’ that new books would fill; in WotC’s case, these are always extra slots that wouldn’t be there at all, in the Realms line, without the reprints. Remember, a publisher has to purchase both paper and press time from other firms for every title it wants to print, and WotC does have the new Eberron fiction line as well as Mirrorstone and the just-announced new “non-game-world-setting-books” imprint.
Some publishers (not WotC) have cash-flow problems that hamper them in releasing books (if you don’t pay your printer, your new product isn’t released to you), and publishers who outbid you for press time can delay your books (which happened to many, many titles when the print orders for the last few Harry Potter books were being increased). This means that neither WotC nor most other publishers can blithely change print runs or number of titles released without ‘lead time’ and much planning. Not unless they want to hurl themselves into disaster.
THO
O Love Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 11:58:15
"Farthest Reach" is linked to the product code of "The Emerald Scepter". Also note that Thomas M. Reid is wrongly listed as author.

There is a lot of change going on. WotC pulled another Giants novel from the catalog:

Giants among us (Twilight Giants Trilogy, book 2)

Note the new title of that one. ;)

All this info was included in the latest update of Forgotten Realms: The Library.
Nysgath Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 11:06:20
Why is it that whenever I click on Farthest Reach it takes me to the Emerald Sceptre?
Lord Rad Posted - 05 Dec 2004 : 10:48:33
Nice

The Emerald Sceptre is beautiful. The Waterdeep novel is also different to what i'd expected, I guess after seeing the sourcebook on the city due out next year that I expected something similiar. Still very nice though. I wonder if they're resurrecting the Cities Series with this one?

I'm puzzled as to why they have rereleased the Twilight Giants Trilogy. I didn't think it was a particulary big seller but with the release of this one, i'm beginning to wonder if WotC are just rereleasing the complete FR novel line.

I'm intrigued as to what will be included in the Best of the Realms book, i'd take a guess that theyre all Ed's stories from the previous anthologies, rather than Spin a Yarn tales etc.

Out of that last, the only one I won't be getting is The Ogre's Pact.

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