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Phantom_Lord Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 06:40:46
Okay anyone know the premises of future FR novels?

I hear theres going to be a FR novel about Khelben going mad and ending up killing a 'prominent' FR character.

What is the story of 'The Rage' dragon series?

I'm mega curious.

Kudos.
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SiriusBlack Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 15:52:24
quote:
Originally posted by Teflon

quote:
What novel for this year is everyone eagerly anticipating the most?


I'm waiting for the Ed and Elaine Waterdeep novel also, along with the newest installment of the War of the Spider Queen Series.



Just remember, it's going to be a bit longer of a wait for the first novel you mentioned. It won't be published this year, but in 2005.
Teflon Posted - 13 Apr 2004 : 22:35:56
quote:
What novel for this year is everyone eagerly anticipating the most?


I'm waiting for the Ed and Elaine Waterdeep novel also, along with the newest installment of the War of the Spider Queen Series.
A Shade of Blue Posted - 13 Apr 2004 : 22:03:42
I look very much forward to Dawn of Night.
Twilight Falling stopped with an enormous cliffhanger and I read somewhere that Kemp has inserted an even larger one this time.

Damn you Paul S. Kemp! Damn you and your fabulous writing!
Steven Schend Posted - 13 Apr 2004 : 17:34:56
quote:
Originally posted by Zacas

you mean as in the concept of Azoun V fighting Princess/Regent Alusair (that is the right name... isn't it... college is draining my mind...)? If you do mean it in that kinda way... i highly doubt it..

1. That story-line concept has been done too much already in novels and shows, movies, etc.
2. Princess/Regent Alusair never wanted the throne to begin with, so she'd probably give it up as soon as he came of age, and just maybe stick around to help advise in the way of her father (with some minor help from Vangy poofing in every now and then)



Nope. Alusair would be the first to leap to the kid's defense and right to inherit the throne she's reluctantly forced to occupy at present. She'll be dancing when she gets to put the heavy crown down.

I was thinking more of upstart or long-scheming nobles out to wrest the crown from the Obarskyrs and attempt to start the first new dynasty in Cormyr in centuries....

Steven
WHo's never afraid to rouse the rabble, but worries that he might catch something...
Zacas Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 19:41:54
you mean as in the concept of Azoun V fighting Princess/Regent Alusair (that is the right name... isn't it... college is draining my mind...)? If you do mean it in that kinda way... i highly doubt it..

1. That story-line concept has been done too much already in novels and shows, movies, etc.
2. Princess/Regent Alusair never wanted the throne to begin with, so she'd probably give it up as soon as he came of age, and just maybe stick around to help advise in the way of her father (with some minor help from Vangy poofing in every now and then)
Steven Schend Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 16:00:41
quote:
[What novel for this year is everyone eagerly anticipating the most?



While I'm sure there'll be others worthy of reading, the one I'm most anxious over is Ed & Elaine's Waterdeep/City of Splendors novel, whatever its final title.

Steven
Who wonders if a novel 15 years down the line will match King Azoun V's rise to the throne to similar events in 1976's Deryni Rising...(not in a copyright violation kind of way but a battle to be allowed to take his own throne sort of thing...)
Lord Rad Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 17:57:53
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

What novel for this year is everyone eagerly anticipating the most?



Now thats a tough one..... certainly The Ruby Guardian, Annhilation and Dawn of Night immediately spring to mind. I cant pick one in particular from that short list as all the stories are very different from each other.

SiriusBlack Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 16:41:21
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
Here it is[/url], SiriusBlack



You're very kind. Thank you.

quote:
Now, what were we all saying about Future FR Novels?



What novel for this year is everyone eagerly anticipating the most?
Alaundo Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 14:01:04
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

Nothing like establishing good customer relations. <insert that icon I'm waiting patiently for>



Well met

Here it is, SiriusBlack

I will be cleaning up this particular scroll within the next day as it appears to have got off topic somewhat. Now, what were we all saying about Future FR Novels?
Winterfox Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 13:11:04
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm now banned from there for talking about novels... Which is quite stange, as I've not been talking about novels! And of course, the WizO's won't give me the courtesy of a reply to my protest...



*whistles* What, you too?

Being banned from that board's no big loss, though, is it?
SiriusBlack Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 03:57:37
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm now banned from there for talking about novels... Which is quite stange, as I've not been talking about novels! And of course, the WizO's won't give me the courtesy of a reply to my protest...



Sirius starts whistling I fought the law and the law won...I fought the law and the law won...

but only because they got initiative!
Wooly Rupert Posted - 09 Apr 2004 : 22:56:05
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, I fully expect it to. You can't even ask "Which books should I read?" or "What order do these novels go in?" without the thread being closed...



Nothing like establishing good customer relations. <insert that icon I'm waiting patiently for>



I'm now banned from there for talking about novels... Which is quite stange, as I've not been talking about novels! And of course, the WizO's won't give me the courtesy of a reply to my protest...
SiriusBlack Posted - 09 Apr 2004 : 20:11:50
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, I fully expect it to. You can't even ask "Which books should I read?" or "What order do these novels go in?" without the thread being closed...



Nothing like establishing good customer relations. <insert that icon I'm waiting patiently for>
Bruce Donohue Posted - 09 Apr 2004 : 18:47:29
Steven I wanted to ask you a question about the Moonstars. We have a supplement guide to Code of the Harpers. Since Khelben is the figurehead what things would be different if Code of the Moonstars was ever done?

How would Khelben react in this case...

Laeral introduces a young candidate to the rank of the Moonstars to be sponsered. During that time Khelben notices certain aspects of the younglin' personality. So little uncustomary for Khelben he notices that this candidate very much resembles him in personality in both certains aspects of him at that age and certain aspects at his current age. Would he watch or tutor this candidate more closely?

How does Khelben deal with people who have a strong a personality and set of convictions as he does? I don't think it has happened but in a debate how would Khelben react if he truly lost the debate?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 16:37:49
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yeah, mention a novel over there and the thread gets closed... It's utterly ridiculous.



Makes you wonder if the whole Novel forum debacle will have an adverse effect on newcomers to the Realms giving a new author a chance or just trying FR fiction for the first time at all.



Oh, I fully expect it to. You can't even ask "Which books should I read?" or "What order do these novels go in?" without the thread being closed...
SiriusBlack Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 16:24:53
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Yeah, mention a novel over there and the thread gets closed... It's utterly ridiculous.



Makes you wonder if the whole Novel forum debacle will have an adverse effect on newcomers to the Realms giving a new author a chance or just trying FR fiction for the first time at all.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 06:39:14
Yeah, mention a novel over there and the thread gets closed... It's utterly ridiculous.
Darth KTrava Posted - 30 Mar 2004 : 01:50:15
quote:
Originally posted by fiveways mike

i myself have come from the wotc site.although this is much better.i found their site a bit pompous.i put one little message in about some fr novels i didnt like and they came down me like a ton of bricks.a week later it shut down.



It was some sort of decision (ridiculous, IMO) from higher up in the wotc "food chain" to kill all talk of the novels on their boards. I also am on the wotc boards (same screen name). I still post there but stay away from any mention of the word "novel".
SirUrza Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 09:15:36
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
As for who he kills a few guesses: Lord Piergon, Manshoon (the clone inside Undermountain) or if its a particulalry dark novel Laeral


Think about it. If Blackstaff were to "go mad" who's going to be there for him? You certainly can't expect Laeral to just stand by and do nothing right? Not only that, but the death of Laeral would be the solidifying factor to his turn and madness. If he were to ever come to his senses it won't be because Laeral redeemed him, she's probably haunt him as a harper wraith variant. :)
Dargoth Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 04:52:00
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
[br
The BEST thing about Bane's return within a campaign and world is that it actually helps the good guys by keeping the bad guys constantly fighting amongst themselves over who's the worst of the worst, allowing the good guys to shore up defenses.




I disagree

Banes return has actually weakened the good guys

The Goodguys have never had it so good when Cyric became a god. which is why I think Ao allowed Bane back, there wasnt a Greater Power for LE in the Pantheon which effected the Balance.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 03:51:39
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Personally, Bane's never done it for me, even back in Grey Box days; still, it's always curious to me that so many people had no comment on Bane whatsoever until he was killed in the Time of Troubles. He was no more or less mentioned than any other god until he was taken off the table and suddenly his fans crop up like crazy. Weird way to build a fan base, dying and all....


Well, it's been pointed out elsewhere that no one pays attention to deities until they get air-time in a novel...

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

For my evil god of choice, I liked the petty, graspy and "kid out to prove himself the big bad" aspects of Xvim; while he was older than Cyric, they were both relatively of the same age god-wise (i.e. you can count their lifespans as gods with less than four digits). I thought it was more interesting personally to pit the two bad boys against each other without ol' Daddy Bane and his followers kicking both of them in the shins from the sidelines. <shrug>


Oh, ditto that! I thought Xvim was a really cool evil deity, and I was disappointed to see that he was just a shell for Bane.

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

(My reason for keeping him dead comes from being a comic book fan--I HATE the revolving door on the afterlife, and thus, if we've killed something, let's vow to keep it dead. Either that or start the rumors that the returned Bane is really a severely cheesed-off Bucky Barnes... )


Ah, the Revolving Pearly Gates, as one of my friends termed it. 'Tis part of the reason I gave up on most superhero comics.

Speaking of being a comics fan, what are some of your favorite titles? Some of my current favorites are Rising Stars, Y: The Last Man, Sojourn, and Oh! My Goddess!

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Thank you for that bit of info, Sage Schend! I like the Tel'Teukiira a whole lot more than I like the Harpers... I like the way they're organized, and the fact that not all of the members are good... Oh, and it also helps that Kyriani is a member.



quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

You didn't think I could leave out the oh-so-dishy Ms. Agrivar, did you?



Seriously, Kyri was my fave character from both of the titles set in the Realms. Not only have I made a point of compiling all the info I could find on her (even including all the spells she used in the comics), but I've also decided that if I ever get a chance to DM in Waterdeep, the lovely Kyri will be one of the Lords. I think she's a very good candidate for it.

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Seriously, one of the best jobs I had my first year or so with TSR was to be the approval guy for the AD&D comic with DC. To this day, I treasure those memories and truly miss the people involved (especially the editor Kim Yale, who passed from this life all too horribly soon). We worked hard on those books, and that's why I worked to keep the characters canonical and within the Realms.

After all, you think it was coincidence that has Kyri in Cloak & Dagger and the rest of the gang in the Tethyr Reclamation?


Truly, I had never given much thought to *why* the characters made it into canon sources -- I was just really glad that they did! I enjoyed the comics, so seeing the characters pop up in official references was a really cool thing. Even more cool was them having prominent roles.

Though I still wonder what happened with Onyx and that girl he was in love with...

Kyriani was also mentioned in Powers & Pantheons, on page 157.

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Steven
Who's first official published work in comic books is the text page stats for the Rattelyr in FORGOTTEN REALMS #24, my favorite issue of all the DC/TSR licensed books


Ah, the issue with Vartan giving a tour around the TSR offices... That was a great one -- especially the pics from the company picnic.

That one and the Lawyers! issue are my personal faves.
Steven Schend Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 00:56:28
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Thank you for that bit of info, Sage Schend! I like the Tel'Teukiira a whole lot more than I like the Harpers... I like the way they're organized, and the fact that not all of the members are good... Oh, and it also helps that Kyriani is a member.




You didn't think I could leave out the oh-so-dishy Ms. Agrivar, did you?

Seriously, one of the best jobs I had my first year or so with TSR was to be the approval guy for the AD&D comic with DC. To this day, I treasure those memories and truly miss the people involved (especially the editor Kim Yale, who passed from this life all too horribly soon). We worked hard on those books, and that's why I worked to keep the characters canonical and within the Realms.

After all, you think it was coincidence that has Kyri in Cloak & Dagger and the rest of the gang in the Tethyr Reclamation?

Steven
Who's first official published work in comic books is the text page stats for the Rattelyr in FORGOTTEN REALMS #24, my favorite issue of all the DC/TSR licensed books
Steven Schend Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 00:47:44
quote:
Originally posted by Phantom_Lord

First of all, Thank you Mr Steven Schend for shedding some light on these shadey matters. Thank you for the time you have taken out and the time you will be taking out hopefully again in the future!

*** SPOILERS***





So do you, or can you, confirm that there will be a novel (set in waterdeep?) about the Harper Schism? Or atleast about Khelben's actions? i.e. The scepter of the sorcerer kings fiasco, or shaking hands with Fzoul, or even the fact that Elminster is silent throughout this whole time...


I can't confirm, deny, or even guess as to a novel about the Harper Schism, as I'm hardly in the loop any more. If anything like that ever happened, I pray I'd get a shot at doing something with it, since it was about 85% my plot with input from various and sundry during the design process. As it is, those decisions are made well outside my purview and, like everyone else, I have to wait to see what's coming out.

The Scepter of the Sorcerer Kings "fiasco," as you put it, was one of my plans I insisted upon; that artifact was way, way, way too powerful and that's why I went out of my way to remove it from the Realms. Thought I did the same with the baneliches and house cleaning of Banite remnants to clear the field and pit Cyric vs. Xvim...but that's changed too, I guess.

Re: Khelben's dealings with Fzoul: "I believe your world has that pat phrase to suit the bill: `Better the devil you know...'"

I also have the feeling that Khelben has other things he's guarding against and plotting against that forced him to deal with Fzoul. Ponder exactly what sorts of things could be going on if cutting a deal and trading power with the Chosen of Xvim/Bane is the lesser of those evils....

And Elminster keeps mum about a great many more things than most ever realize whilst distracting y'all with so much lore on so many other things.

quote:
Also, how come and why is it, that the return of Bane into the FR Pantheon has ever been done in novel format? (Calling Denning, Lowder and Ciecin!)
Surely he is one of the more awe inspiring and evil Gods of the realms? Shouldn't he have like a trilogy about his return? I'm just asking since you have touched upon the subject in Claok & Dagger. And what do you think about the whole "Return of Bane" scenario? One more thing, the character of Scyulla Darkhope in the FRCS is she the same Scyulla in C&D?


No ideas as to why there's no Bane Arisen novel/trilogy, other than the planning for books happens long in advance, so the idea may not have sprung up in time to coordinate a novel with the FRCS release and said changes. <shrug> Who knows? I don't, but I've learned never to say never....

One guess I have is this: There's quite a few books out there about the gods already. Book Department may look at the plot and its potential sales and figure it might be going to the same well too many times. Also, it's not going to be a new story by the time they get to tell it, and that's hardly the best way to position a novel.

Personally, Bane's never done it for me, even back in Grey Box days; still, it's always curious to me that so many people had no comment on Bane whatsoever until he was killed in the Time of Troubles. He was no more or less mentioned than any other god until he was taken off the table and suddenly his fans crop up like crazy. Weird way to build a fan base, dying and all....

For my evil god of choice, I liked the petty, graspy and "kid out to prove himself the big bad" aspects of Xvim; while he was older than Cyric, they were both relatively of the same age god-wise (i.e. you can count their lifespans as gods with less than four digits). I thought it was more interesting personally to pit the two bad boys against each other without ol' Daddy Bane and his followers kicking both of them in the shins from the sidelines. <shrug>

As for how I feel about the return of Bane and the erasure of Xvim in the hierarchy? It introduces some very cool story ideas and opens more options for play and that's great. Like many things, it's probably not what I would have done, if given a vote, but done is done, and it's been fun watching it play out. (My reason for keeping him dead comes from being a comic book fan--I HATE the revolving door on the afterlife, and thus, if we've killed something, let's vow to keep it dead. Either that or start the rumors that the returned Bane is really a severely cheesed-off Bucky Barnes... )

The BEST thing about Bane's return within a campaign and world is that it actually helps the good guys by keeping the bad guys constantly fighting amongst themselves over who's the worst of the worst, allowing the good guys to shore up defenses.

If I were running a game, I'd seriously think about a subversive group within Bane's religious houses still secretly worshiping Xvim and looking at breeding with and/or summoning demons to recreate the Baneson to challenge Popsie for the power again. Scarier still could be a heretic sect of Xvimlar establishing an alliance with House Dlardrageth and the fey'ri in hopes of gaining power and breeding a god that could dominate elven and human pantheons alike! <insert shudder of evil glee at the sorts of RSEs I could never before think about due to campaign integrity....>

As for Scyulla, she's the same character I believe....

quote:
Yourself, S K Reynolds, D Donovan and E L Boyd did a really, really good job with this product! Its a shame that there aren't many good products like this out in 3E.

I know these are one questions too many, but they do kinda stick out in me head most of the time and would like someone in an esteemed position as yourself tell me whats right and wrong, rather than me being a part of a rumor.

Thank you once again.



No esteemed position here, pal. I'm just a regular guy like most of y'all with hopes that I can get some freelance work here and there, whether it be in short stories, novels, game products, or whatnot. All I wrote above are off-the-cuff opinions and ideas, nothing more or less. Take them with a serious grain of salt and then use them or ignore them as they suit your game campaign....just like you should have done with stuff I wrote when I still was a TSR/WotC staffer.

Steven
Steven Schend Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 00:04:19
quote:
Originally posted by Narad Bladesinger

I think it as a too hard job, even for Khelben, to kill Halster. Either he lures Halaster out of Undermountain or he gets Very lucky...
But must be some other characters he could kill. If he goes crazy, he could kill one of mystra's chosen... Sammaster tried (though maybe under the influence of an evil priest)



And look at what happened to him....

Steven
Who wants to start rumors of a kinder, gentler, more approachable Khelben, who nevertheless ruthlessly denies that he sleeps with a tarrasque plush toy and will blast anyone who says into into the nearest extradimensional space....
Narad Bladesinger Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 10:08:54
I think it as a too hard job, even for Khelben, to kill Halster. Either he lures Halaster out of Undermountain or he gets Very lucky...
But must be some other characters he could kill. If he goes crazy, he could kill one of mystra's chosen... Sammaster tried (though maybe under the influence of an evil priest)
Dargoth Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 08:59:23
Ive got a different take on it

Halaster either dies some how or manages to escape from being the Lord of Undermountain

Undermountain goes nuts like it did during Halasters Harvest spit monsters out into the streets of Waterdeep. KB seeing that theres no way to stop it with out someone taking Halaster job, KB "takes one for the team" and becomes the Lord of Undermountain which of cause makes him mad.

As for who he kills a few guesses: Lord Piergon, Manshoon (the clone inside Undermountain) or if its a particulalry dark novel Laeral
Wooly Rupert Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 07:50:31
Thank you for that bit of info, Sage Schend! I like the Tel'Teukiira a whole lot more than I like the Harpers... I like the way they're organized, and the fact that not all of the members are good... Oh, and it also helps that Kyriani is a member.
Phantom_Lord Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 06:39:42
First of all, Thank you Mr Steven Schend for shedding some light on these shadey matters. Thank you for the time you have taken out and the time you will be taking out hopefully again in the future!

*** SPOILERS***





So do you, or can you, confirm that there will be a novel (set in waterdeep?) about the Harper Schism? Or atleast about Khelben's actions? i.e. The scepter of the sorcerer kings fiasco, or shaking hands with Fzoul, or even the fact that Elminster is silent throughout this whole time...

Also, how come and why is it, that the return of Bane into the FR Pantheon has ever been done in novel format? (Calling Denning, Lowder and Ciecin!)
Surely he is one of the more awe inspiring and evil Gods of the realms? Shouldn't he have like a trilogy about his return? I'm just asking since you have touched upon the subject in Claok & Dagger. And what do you think about the whole "Return of Bane" scenario? One more thing, the character of Scyulla Darkhope in the FRCS is she the same Scyulla in C&D?
Yourself, S K Reynolds, D Donovan and E L Boyd did a really, really good job with this product! Its a shame that there aren't many good products like this out in 3E.

I know these are one questions too many, but they do kinda stick out in me head most of the time and would like someone in an esteemed position as yourself tell me whats right and wrong, rather than me being a part of a rumor.

Thank you once again.
Steven Schend Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 17:13:34
quote:
Originally posted by Phantom_Lord

Okay, I still haven't been able to recall as to who told me, or where I read, about the Khelben going mad storyline.

I CAN however, point to some vague clues as to why he COULD go mad.

The CLOAK & DAGGER product shows Khelben in an EXREMELY shadey light.


It did, didn't it?

quote:
I mean here is the founder of the Harpers who gets KICKED out of the harpers


Actually, he quit rather than answer the charges laid before him. I suppose it could be argued ala "he said/she said" but in Khelben's mind, he dismissed the Harpers and their allegations rather than explain his actions. In some Harpers' minds, I suppose it could be said he was dismissed, but I tend to take Khelben's side. <shrug>

quote:
and ends up upsetting a LOT of them in the process, I mean the Harpers split BECAUSE of him.


It would appear so, wouldn't it? Then again, an awful lot of Khelben's long-time agents didn't seem all that surprised by those events and easily folded into the Moonstars. <cryptic smirk>

quote:
He can't even travel through Harper portals, I mean the club is mega upset with his 'actions' -- Heck even I'd be.


Who says he can't travel through Harper portals? Given that he's helped refound the Harpers at least twice in recorded history and that he and Elminster are at the heart of many of the magics the Harpers take for granted, I'd truly be surprised if he and his agents still don't make use of such resources as they can without being caught at it.

After all, it's the hoary old "I taught them everything THEY know, but I didn't teach them everything I know...."

Honestly, while many conservative Harpers gripe about the schism and Khelben's wrangling of many agents out of their ranks, many others simply continue their work and are starting to recognize that the only differencesamong them are:

A) Khelben's crew has a central authority through which all information and objectives flows.

B) The Moonstars don't always know why they're asked to perform certain tasks, but most have worked with Khelben long enough to know that even a piece of the puzzle is often important. Khelben's definitely a "need-to-know-basis" kinda boss, and only those who can work under such methods have become Moonstars.

C) Some Moonstars may note that much of their activity has had less to do with politics and trade and a bit more focus on watching various temples and whole religious orders, scoping out various magical personages and schools, and tracking down various lost lore, artifacts and items, and stalking those who make the latter tasks their livelihoods.

D) If your characters push any of the Chosen or other long-standing allies of Khelben's as to finding out his motivations, all give a stock answer: "The best way to ask a question of someone's motives is to ask directly. Be sure to leave instructions for your next of kin, should you disturb the Blackstaff uninvited, though...."
If they are closer and might even deserve more of an answer, let them know "Khelben and those who act in his name operate on a slightly more expansive playing field than most, and while some of what he does seems nefarious in the short term, trust that he and his work toward the greater good of the Realms entire and worry little over short-term things like current politics or current administrations."


quote:
I think Mr Steven Schend could enlighten us a bit more on that aspect, since he is one of the co-authors of Cloak and Dagger. Great product Sir, truly the last of the Amazing 2e quality Products.


Well, thank you very much from me and my absent co-conspirators Eric Boyd, Dale Donovan, and Sean Reynolds. I trust there's enough enlightenment and obfuscation above to whet the appetite?

Steven
Phantom_Lord Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 15:33:01
Okay, I still haven't been able to recall as to who told me, or where I read, about the Khelben going mad storyline.

I CAN however, point to some vague clues as to why he COULD go mad.

The CLOAK & DAGGER product shows Khelben in an EXREMELY shadey light. I mean here is the founder of the Harpers who gets KICKED out of the harpers and ends up upsetting a LOT of them in the process, I mean the Harpers split BECAUSE of him.

He can't even travel through Harper portals, I mean the club is mega upset with his 'actions' -- Heck even I'd be.

I think Mr Steven Schend could enlighten us a bit more on that aspect, since he is one of the co-authors of Cloak and Dagger. Great product Sir, truly the last of the Amazing 2e quality Products.


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