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| realmsrider |
Posted - 16 Dec 2012 : 05:14:24
What FR books have you read and wished for different outcomes? Did you like a character that hasn't shown up in any sequels in the world of Faerun? Are there artifacts/monsters you wish you could read about that haven't been done yet?
My impossible wish list
-The father and son in Wrath of the Blue Lady. I would have liked to see a trilogy with this pair. They were just great characters and I loved the father/son dynamic Mel gave these guys. Plus they were bad ass monks.
-After YotRD Dorn and Kara have half dragon kids. This just sounds fun.
-Space aliens crash land on Faerun. Imagine Elminster and Co. trying to keep alien tech out of the hands of the Zhentarim...
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| LastStand |
Posted - 23 Dec 2012 : 09:11:23
* The Raven Queen replacing Kelemvor in FR.
* More Pact of the new Moon.
* Leira back with vengence...or just gloating smugness of how she was never really dead.
* My Computer completing this CHKDSK faster and saying nothing is wrong with the hardrive.
* More FR novels in general. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 23 Dec 2012 : 01:57:19
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Impossible Wish List:
Reinvest in titles such as Dark Sun, Ravenloft and Gamma World.
Both DARK SUN and RAVENLOFT still routinely have support material presented in the DDI, though it's usually really nothing beyond the monthly "Eye on ... " articles and the odd adventure or two. |
| realmsrider |
Posted - 22 Dec 2012 : 15:44:36
Impossible Wish List:
Reinvest in titles such as Dark Sun, Ravenloft and Gamma World.
You would think WotC would capitalize on the horror phenom with a revamp of Ravenloft. Dark Sun petered out this year and Gamma World only had a two book run. Gamma World was my favorite new series last year. A world where anything can happen and it falls flat?
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| Thauranil |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 08:23:00
Frankly Cyric is trapped in his "Supreme throne" so he is hardly going to be rampaging across the realms anytime soon and good riddance.
The big bad I want to see going down is Shar , revenge for Mask and other less cool gods. |
| CorellonsDevout |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 06:14:40
I like the Big Bad (I'm a drow fan after all, though I don't want all of them to be bad), but I also wouldn't mind seeing the organization of "smaller evils". I don't see why we couldn't have different series devoted to each of them. |
| Merrith |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 05:51:35
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Dennis
Feature Larloch in a trilogy/pentad.
Totally! Larloch is actually one of the main antagonists in my current FR game. He's decided to fill Mystra's spot as the new god of magic in the Realms.
I don't want him to become a god. That's a sure way to get less and less novel time in the future. Besides, it's unlikely it'll happen---from what I've heard, Ed's latest novels revealed that The Simbul is the new Goddess of Magic.
Pretty sure Ed's latest novels never revealed that at all. Unless I completely missed some subtle hints. But you never read his latest and only care about Larloch anyways ;). But on that topic, his latest book did seem to imply that Larloch would be making some sort of appearance in future novels. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 03:38:57
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
See, I'd rather see multiple, smaller evil groups, as opposed to just a few larger evil groups. The continual focus on the big groups makes it seem like there is no evil in the Realms unless Thay, Shade, or drow are involved. It's like there's a drow under every rock and a Shade behind every tree. What happened to featuring other, lesser evils, like the fey'ri, the Twisted Rune, or the Kraken Society?
That could work just as well. And, to be honest, that's largely what I was thinking for the smaller groups that have yet to receive any real attention in the current 4e lore. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 02:49:23
See, I'd rather see multiple, smaller evil groups, as opposed to just a few larger evil groups. The continual focus on the big groups makes it seem like there is no evil in the Realms unless Thay, Shade, or drow are involved. It's like there's a drow under every rock and a Shade behind every tree. What happened to featuring other, lesser evils, like the fey'ri, the Twisted Rune, or the Kraken Society? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 02:16:54
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
It's not that I mind the extensive focus on the "Big Three Evils" Wooly mentions here. It's just that I would prefer the developers to just pick one and go with it. I'm not particularly keen on the continuing trend of having multiple Big Bads. I'd like to see more focus on just one of them, and developed deeply -- beyond the usual "They're really responsible for this," "They've got some dark and secret agenda," or "They're an ancient power seeking to reclaim lost glory." It all quickly becomes tiresome.
Thus, I feel like we need something more than just the usual for them.
I think a lot of this comes down to them trying to balance the novel aspect with the gameplay aspect; multiple big bads gives the DM more options, keeping their motivations vague ("dark secret agenda") gives the DM more freedom in developing it on their own.
I don't have any issue with that. But, at the same time, developing the agendas of multiple Big Bads AT THE SAME TIME shouldn't always be the focus of the development of future Realmslore. When most current events are shaped by either the drow, Cyric's machinations, Shar's reach for great power, the expanding dominion of the Shadovar, or the further "undeadening" of Thay, it becomes problematic for one to properly follow things.
I want to take an active interest in what these powers are trying to accomplish... but I would also like the time to properly appreciate what one is attempting, before the next power starts agitating things. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 01:14:04
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
It's not that I mind the extensive focus on the "Big Three Evils" Wooly mentions here. It's just that I would prefer the developers to just pick one and go with it. I'm not particularly keen on the continuing trend of having multiple Big Bads. I'd like to see more focus on just one of them, and developed deeply -- beyond the usual "They're really responsible for this," "They've got some dark and secret agenda," or "They're an ancient power seeking to reclaim lost glory." It all quickly becomes tiresome.
Thus, I feel like we need something more than just the usual for them.
I think a lot of this comes down to them trying to balance the novel aspect with the gameplay aspect; multiple big bads gives the DM more options, keeping their motivations vague ("dark secret agenda") gives the DM more freedom in developing it on their own.
Personally I don't think the gods should be the big bads at all, but the bigger bads in the back ground, that looming, behind the scenes presence that's always beyond the player and the characters in the novels. Keep the big bad on a more human(oid) scale. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 01:06:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
It's not that I mind the extensive focus on the "Big Three Evils" Wooly mentions here. It's just that I would prefer the developers to just pick one and go with it. I'm not particularly keen on the continuing trend of having multiple Big Bads. I'd like to see more focus on just one of them, and developed deeply -- beyond the usual "They're really responsible for this," "They've got some dark and secret agenda," or "They're an ancient power seeking to reclaim lost glory." It all quickly becomes tiresome.
Thus, I feel like we need something more than just the usual for them. |
| realmsrider |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 00:57:57
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by realmsrider
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't.
Does anyone remember the horrid interpretation of the Drow in the Maztica trilogy? We should be happy to be serving our current Drow Overlords.
Haven't read that. Are they pretty central to the plot or are they only mentioned? I will have to read it, even if that wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement!
Central to books 2 and 3. |
| Rofocale |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 00:39:03
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Originally posted by realmsrider
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't.
Does anyone remember the horrid interpretation of the Drow in the Maztica trilogy? We should be happy to be serving our current Drow Overlords.
Haven't read that. Are they pretty central to the plot or are they only mentioned? I will have to read it, even if that wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement! |
| realmsrider |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 23:57:10
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't.
Does anyone remember the horrid interpretation of the Drow in the Maztica trilogy? We should be happy to be serving our current Drow Overlords. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 23:38:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 22:35:16
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Originally posted by Rofocale
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race. |
| Rofocale |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 20:43:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back. |
| phranctoast |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 19:52:53
Liriel and Drizzt hooking up. Enough with Dahlia already :) |
| realmsrider |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 16:17:21
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question. 
Wow. That really IS a bizarre question, made even more creepy by its presence in a thread entitled "Impossible Wishes."
"Impossible Wish List" I want no harm to come to any authors nor do I promote any such real world violence. I am merely trying to keep my thread relevant and on topic. It was starting to devolve into which author could better handle the subject of elves and I could not allow that.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 16:17:19
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three. |
| Rofocale |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 13:05:24
I wish Pharaun had survived. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 13:04:24
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
I don't know who'd win, but if it was a battle to the death, we'd all lose. I should prefer to keep my fave authors alive and kicking, thank you.
As do I. |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 12:44:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
Wow. That really IS a bizarre question, made even more creepy by its presence in a thread entitled "Impossible Wishes."
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| realmsrider |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 07:30:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
I don't know who'd win, but if it was a battle to the death, we'd all lose. I should prefer to keep my fave authors alive and kicking, thank you.
I don't think it's so bizarre. It is, however, an impossible wish. For example, Richard Lee Byers and R.A. Salvatore are both real time weapon savvy fencers. That would be a pitched battle if ever there was one. I call Byers.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 06:14:39
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
I don't know who'd win, but if it was a battle to the death, we'd all lose. I should prefer to keep my fave authors alive and kicking, thank you. |
| realmsrider |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 02:36:18
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
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| The Sage |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 01:41:33
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Richard Baker does elves pretty well, too, I think. I enjoyed his Last Mythal and Blades of the Moonsea series.
Steven Schend and Elaine Cunningham remain my "go-to" Realmsfolk who I think handle elves [in the Realms] the best. |
| CorellonsDevout |
Posted - 18 Dec 2012 : 23:31:18
Richard Baker does elves pretty well, too, I think. I enjoyed his Last Mythal and Blades of the Moonsea series. |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 18 Dec 2012 : 02:20:43
My personal feeling is that the only writers who should do elves are Elaine and Bob. Wait, that didn't sound right, did it....? Well, the only two who should deal with elven culture and history- basically novels about elves in general, anyway. |
| Dennis |
Posted - 18 Dec 2012 : 02:18:37
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Dennis
Feature Larloch in a trilogy/pentad.
Totally! Larloch is actually one of the main antagonists in my current FR game. He's decided to fill Mystra's spot as the new god of magic in the Realms.
I don't want him to become a god. That's a sure way to get less and less novel time in the future. Besides, it's unlikely it'll happen---from what I've heard, Ed's latest novels revealed that The Simbul is the new Goddess of Magic. |
