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| Alisttair |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 17:51:05
http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_can.html
I feel depressed when I look at that page 
EDIT: Except for the second book. |
| 23 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 08 Dec 2009 : 13:31:32
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma
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Originally posted by Alisttair
http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_can.html
I feel depressed when I look at that page
EDIT: Except for the second book.
If you've ever read the online version of Rise of the Blade that was floating around, you'd be happy it was cancelled. Other than that, most of those break my heart.
I downloaded it but havent taken a peek at it yet. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 08 Dec 2009 : 04:56:47
I'm with you Xysma. The names used are just ...  . That skim read I just did bordered on being painful.
-- George Krashos
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| Xysma |
Posted - 07 Dec 2009 : 18:24:22
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
http://www.o-love.net/realms/head_can.html
I feel depressed when I look at that page
EDIT: Except for the second book.
If you've ever read the online version of Rise of the Blade that was floating around, you'd be happy it was cancelled. Other than that, most of those break my heart. |
| Dart Ambermoon |
Posted - 30 Nov 2009 : 02:46:02
Well...since CaleŽs story arc itself had an epic conclusion, IŽd honestly prefer if it was left at that. Anything that doesnŽt come to pass now has no detrimental effect upon the story so far, which was quite masterful. Therefore IŽd rather have the clifhanger at the end and unwilling priests left to their deserved rest. |
| MrsDrasek |
Posted - 28 Nov 2009 : 00:54:22
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul.
I may be a little biased here but I don't believe that anyone could write Paul's characters in such the same way, so I say put them to bed. Thats my opinion, but I don't think they would appeal to me if Mr. Kemp wasn't breathing life into them.
I'll keep my opinions on WOTC to myself. |
| Amraz one arm |
Posted - 26 Nov 2009 : 12:40:42
This is Shar's work, just finished reading the Erevis Cale trilogy and was really looking forward to the new cycle.
This is the worst news I had in weeks. And it being lay-off season at my compagny tells you how much I'd been looking forward to them.... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 26 Nov 2009 : 00:05:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul.
Being that the characters belong to WotC, they could easily assign them to someone else. That said, they've only done that once, and it was cancelled before seeing print. Me, I think that characters should only be written about by the creator of a character, and/or the person who popularized that character (as with Elaith or the Blackstaff).
I'll agree with this -- to a degree. Take Khelben for example. He's received particularly great attention in multiple hands -- being Elaine, Steven, and Ed.
Well, I do agree -- but even though at least four authors have played with Khelben, Steven is really the one who ran with him. No disrespect to Elaine, but in her books, Khelben was more of a supporting character than a main character. RAS only used Khelben for bit parts, as I recall, mainly showing up, aiming folks in the right direction, and then disappearing (the proper role for a Chosen!). I don't recall Ed doing much with him in fiction, other than a couple of minor appearances.
I suppose I'm just more partial to Elaine's portrayal of the relationship between Danilo and Khelben in her books. It plays on Khelben's character somewhat, by specifying his "gruff" and "arrogant" attitude even among members of his own family.
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Steven, on the other hand, is the one who really put Khelben in the spotlight. I don't think anyone else used him as a major character -- and that's an important distinction, for me. A lot of people have used him, but it was Steven that really ran with him. I do like his appearance in Elaine's books in particular, but it was Steven that really put a spotlight on him.
Oh, I agree. But Elaine's efforts helped to expand upon the character of Blackstaff to a degree far beyond what we were previously used to in the source material.
As for the important distinction, well, that's a point I'll agree with as well. When I first learned that about Blackstaff and that Steven was intending to bring Khelben to a position whereupon he'd be the major focus of a novel, I was immediately struck with the possibilities of what more we could finally learn about him because he'd be receiving the role of a primary protagonist. Good stuff! |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 23:01:21
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul.
Being that the characters belong to WotC, they could easily assign them to someone else. That said, they've only done that once, and it was cancelled before seeing print. Me, I think that characters should only be written about by the creator of a character, and/or the person who popularized that character (as with Elaith or the Blackstaff).
I'll agree with this -- to a degree. Take Khelben for example. He's received particularly great attention in multiple hands -- being Elaine, Steven, and Ed.
Well, I do agree -- but even though at least four authors have played with Khelben, Steven is really the one who ran with him. No disrespect to Elaine, but in her books, Khelben was more of a supporting character than a main character. RAS only used Khelben for bit parts, as I recall, mainly showing up, aiming folks in the right direction, and then disappearing (the proper role for a Chosen!). I don't recall Ed doing much with him in fiction, other than a couple of minor appearances.
Steven, on the other hand, is the one who really put Khelben in the spotlight. I don't think anyone else used him as a major character -- and that's an important distinction, for me. A lot of people have used him, but it was Steven that really ran with him. I do like his appearance in Elaine's books in particular, but it was Steven that really put a spotlight on him.
So that's why I consider him to be more of Steven's character than anyone else's. A lot of people have used Elminster, too, but it's pretty undeniable whose character he is. |
| Jakk |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 18:43:56
Yes, that page is depressing... but I prefer to look at the bright side. It gives me more time to read other books that I want to read (none of which, at this point, are published by WotC; they cancelled all of those). Since this scroll is about novels, that's all I have to say.  |
| Richard Lee Byers |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 18:06:14
For a novelist (or for this novelist, anyway), the guiding principle is this: If the character was created in a sourcebook or game module, I'll stick him in a novel. If he was created in somebody else's novel or short story, hands off.
There are exceptions to every rule, of course, and whatever you want to do, WotC has to approve it. |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 16:57:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul.
Being that the characters belong to WotC, they could easily assign them to someone else. That said, they've only done that once, and it was cancelled before seeing print. Me, I think that characters should only be written about by the creator of a character, and/or the person who popularized that character (as with Elaith or the Blackstaff).
I'll agree with this -- to a degree. Take Khelben for example. He's received particularly great attention in multiple hands -- being Elaine, Steven, and Ed.
Salvatore also a bit (with the help of Captain Picard...ummm...I mean Patrick Stewart)  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 15:05:58
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul.
Being that the characters belong to WotC, they could easily assign them to someone else. That said, they've only done that once, and it was cancelled before seeing print. Me, I think that characters should only be written about by the creator of a character, and/or the person who popularized that character (as with Elaith or the Blackstaff).
I'll agree with this -- to a degree. Take Khelben for example. He's received particularly great attention in multiple hands -- being Elaine, Steven, and Ed. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 11:56:02
quote:
Originally posted by swifty
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul.
Being that the characters belong to WotC, they could easily assign them to someone else. That said, they've only done that once, and it was cancelled before seeing print. Me, I think that characters should only be written about by the creator of a character, and/or the person who popularized that character (as with Elaith or the Blackstaff). |
| swifty |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 11:48:53
who would like to see the cale characters in 4e with a different author or would rather they were put to bed in respect to paul. |
| skychrome |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 11:47:42
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Hi, skychrome. Books 1 and 2 of The Brotherhood of the Griffon are already done. I will start writing Book 3 around Feb 1st, 2010. (How's that for a specific answer?)
Richard, I am deeply impressed!  ...plus I am really looking forward to that trilogy!
Thanks again! |
| KingLouis |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 09:42:01
Wow the Godborn cover art is absolutely amazing |
| Richard Lee Byers |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 06:15:55
Hi, skychrome. Books 1 and 2 of The Brotherhood of the Griffon are already done. I will start writing Book 3 around Feb 1st, 2010. (How's that for a specific answer?) |
| The Sage |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 23:43:00
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Hi, skychrome.
Ed's novel was supposed to be the concluding volume in the Sembia series. As I understand it, he didn't write it simply because he had too many other FR projects that took priority. So Dave Gross ended up writing the conclusion to Sembia.
That's it. And Ed's discussed this somewhat, in his replies here at Candlekeep. Simply search the "So Saith Ed" archives.
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| skychrome |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 20:45:29
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Hi, skychrome.
Ed's novel was supposed to be the concluding volume in the Sembia series. As I understand it, he didn't write it simply because he had too many other FR projects that took priority. So Dave Gross ended up writing the conclusion to Sembia.
Richard, thank you very much for the answer!
You know I was always wondering, why there was no novel by Ed in the Sembia series, considering his excellent opening short story in Halls of Stormweather.
So, this answers it all. Thanks again!
By the way: How does your writing on The Brotherhood of the Griffon go? |
| Richard Lee Byers |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 20:37:44
Hi, skychrome.
Ed's novel was supposed to be the concluding volume in the Sembia series. As I understand it, he didn't write it simply because he had too many other FR projects that took priority. So Dave Gross ended up writing the conclusion to Sembia. |
| skychrome |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 19:38:40
Great website, depressing section...
Unbelievable the quantity of good stuff that has been lost to readers! That Kemp's next trilogy will not be published was probably the worst thing in quite a while. 
And regarding Elaine's Reclamation: I had it preorderes already.
Anyone knows what happened to Ed's novel which is listed there?
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| Brimstone |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 19:14:03
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| swifty |
Posted - 24 Nov 2009 : 18:06:32
ditto. |
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