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Zapato Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 11:37:42
When I asked a good series about gods, my mates advised me to read the avatar books. When I searched a good series about clerics, I found The Cleric Quintet collecters edition. And when I asked a friend of mine for some more general very good series, he advised me to read the Icewinddale triology and the Finders Stone novels...

But now I'm looking for some good books on heroic and brave paladins! Young / old, Bahamut or Helm it doesnt matter. Any recommendations?
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danbuter Posted - 29 Nov 2008 : 18:09:00
It's not Forgotten Realms, but the absolute best portrait of a paladin is "The Deed of Paksennarion" by Elizabeth Moon. If I could run a paladin like that in game, I'd be very happy.
Danny Glick Posted - 29 Nov 2008 : 16:12:40
The whole Double Diamond Saga is very Paladine heavy. Expect to shell out at least $50 for it, though.
Ateth Istarlin Posted - 28 Nov 2008 : 12:18:13
How about the "Threat from the Sea" trilogy?
No-one seems to have mentioned it yet!
Zapato Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 15:46:14
Yeah I do! Just...in a different way .

But I'm just looking for a couple of more titles...true story
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 14:50:11
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

You don't like women paladins?



Indeed, not all paladins are men, or young, for that matter.
The Sage Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 23:06:09
quote:
Originally posted by Zapato

I always knew that good and evil was kept more distinct in DnD then in the real world. But I think I know truly realise it reading some posts here. Thanks for the info.

But back on the track: any more titles? Surely there must be novels featuring brave young men fighting evil?

See Elaine Cunningham's "Counselors & Kings" trilogy. Matteo, one of the protagonists, is, according to Elaine, "a paladin, for all intents and purposes."

And Paul Kemp's Shadowstorm novel features a Lathanderite paladin.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 21:15:39
quote:
Originally posted by Zapato

But back on the track: any more titles? Surely there must be novels featuring brave young men fighting evil?



You don't like women paladins?
Zapato Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 20:46:50
I always knew that good and evil was kept more distinct in DnD then in the real world. But I think I know truly realise it reading some posts here. Thanks for the info.

But back on the track: any more titles? Surely there must be novels featuring brave young men fighting evil?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 15:24:23
quote:
Originally posted by Zapato

Well heroic is definatly a plus . Still need to start on the Azure bonds books. Didn't know dragonbait was a paladin...sort of.



They are awesome, and among the very few Realms novels that I recommend to everyone.
Erik Scott de Bie Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 15:04:28
quote:
Originally posted by Zapato

Well heroic is definatly a plus . Still need to start on the Azure bonds books. Didn't know dragonbait was a paladin...sort of.

He's a paladin in his own saurial way, which is in itself a neat look at how to customize classes to fit a particular race/culture. 2e did it with the concept of "specialty priests" and 3.5 had racial substitution levels. Was Dragonbait ahead of his time? Perhaps.

Cheers
The Sage Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 14:07:28
Sorry Red. Since those books were published quite some time ago, I didn't think there was much need for a SPOILER.
The Red Walker Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 13:38:12
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

Miltiades the undead paladin appears in Pools of Darkness and (I think?) Pool of Twilight as well.

Could be wrong on Twilight, but I think he has at least a cameo.
That sounds about right. Though, it's been a long time since I last read those book as well.

Miltiades also makes an appearance in the "Double Diamond Saga" novelettes.


Damn, thanks for the spoiler!

I knew I should have read them as soon as they arrived!
I do like him as a character, so glad to know he is in there somewhere.
Zapato Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 12:36:40
Well heroic is definatly a plus . Still need to start on the Azure bonds books. Didn't know dragonbait was a paladin...sort of.
khorne Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 09:02:23
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbobx

Thornhold by Elaine Cunningham features Paladins quite heavily.

True, but if Zapato is looking for heroic paladins I suggest he stay away from that book.
The Sage Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 23:08:58
Ed's All Shadows Fled features a Chauntea-serving paladin -- Nelyssa Shendean of the Riders of Mistledale.
The Sage Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 23:06:26
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

Miltiades the undead paladin appears in Pools of Darkness and (I think?) Pool of Twilight as well.

Could be wrong on Twilight, but I think he has at least a cameo.
That sounds about right. Though, it's been a long time since I last read those book as well.

Miltiades also makes an appearance in the "Double Diamond Saga" novelettes.
Lord Karsus Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 23:00:04
-How could we forget Dragonbait?
Erik Scott de Bie Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 22:21:15
Miltiades the undead paladin appears in Pools of Darkness and (I think?) Pool of Twilight as well.

Could be wrong on Twilight, but I think he has at least a cameo.

It's been so LONG since I read those books.

And let's not forget Dragonbait--the saurial paladin from the Azure Bonds series.

And there's a paladin in that Ghostwalker book by that one guy.

Cheers
Lord Karsus Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 22:12:38
-Mmm, that is right. There is a Paladin in [i/]Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor[/i]. Corran D’Arcey, Defender of Tyr the Even-Handed, third son of Baron Ethelred D’Arcey of Sarshel. An arrogant and snooty fellow, who learned to be more humble by the end.
Pickel Bouldershoulder Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 21:52:27
Well met
Another Paladin is featured in one of the pools series ( I Think Radiance) an undead one called Millaties or something like that??
Hehehe
Erik Scott de Bie Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 21:40:10
Well, it certainly can lead to some interesting situations, let me tell you.

Cheers
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 21:17:23
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

To address the OP, WotC's blurb about Downshadow heavily implies that there is a paladin contained therein (here it is on my blog):

http://eriksdb.livejournal.com/171023.html?view=1180175

No other detail (from them or from me) about said paladin, however.

Cheers



"Ever wondered what it's really like to be a paladin? A holy knight, struggling to live in a very unholy city? A city crowded with tempting women who take a great interest in you...?"

That's not a bad thing!
Lord Karsus Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 19:28:48
-She was also, if I recall correctly, being misled by a pretender for a decent chunk of Tymora's Luck.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 19:10:50
quote:
Originally posted by Zapato

Now thats interresting, all those articles and classes I took on ethics and philosofy made it even harder for me to RP a lawfull good character (since the difference between good and evil is impossible to understand in most cases). So I wonder how this female paladin fits in all of this



Well, to put it most simply, the stereotypical paladin acts in black and white. Either it's good, or it's evil, and those are the only choices. Holly Harrowslough was not nearly as bad about this as some paladins seem to be.
Lord Karsus Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:51:02
quote:
Originally posted by Zapato

Now thats interresting, all those articles and classes I took on ethics and philosofy made it even harder for me to RP a lawfull good character (since the difference between good and evil is impossible to understand in most cases). So I wonder how this female paladin fits in all of this



-Real world ethic and moral philosophies are not very compatible with the "good/evil are very tangible things" view that D&D espouses.
Erik Scott de Bie Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:48:50
To address the OP, WotC's blurb about Downshadow heavily implies that there is a paladin contained therein (here it is on my blog):

http://eriksdb.livejournal.com/171023.html?view=1180175

No other detail (from them or from me) about said paladin, however.

Cheers
Zapato Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:26:04
Now thats interresting, all those articles and classes I took on ethics and philosofy made it even harder for me to RP a lawfull good character (since the difference between good and evil is impossible to understand in most cases). So I wonder how this female paladin fits in all of this
Wooly Rupert Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:10:04
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck both feature a really nice female paladin character.



Indeed. And she doesn't fall into the Lawful Goody-goody stereotype.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 17:03:22
Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck both feature a really nice female paladin character.
Lord Karsus Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 16:55:59
-As does her related short story in Best of the Realms III: The Stories of Elaine Cunningham, which explains the origins of the Knights of Samular.

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