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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
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 Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 11:37:42
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When I asked a good series about gods, my mates advised me to read the avatar books. When I searched a good series about clerics, I found The Cleric Quintet collecters edition. And when I asked a friend of mine for some more general very good series, he advised me to read the Icewinddale triology and the Finders Stone novels...
But now I'm looking for some good books on heroic and brave paladins! Young / old, Bahamut or Helm it doesnt matter. Any recommendations?
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Jimbobx
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 17:03:22
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Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck both feature a really nice female paladin character. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36910 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:10:04
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck both feature a really nice female paladin character.
Indeed. And she doesn't fall into the Lawful Goody-goody stereotype. |
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:26:04
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Now thats interresting, all those articles and classes I took on ethics and philosofy made it even harder for me to RP a lawfull good character (since the difference between good and evil is impossible to understand in most cases). So I wonder how this female paladin fits in all of this  |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:48:50
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To address the OP, WotC's blurb about Downshadow heavily implies that there is a paladin contained therein (here it is on my blog):
http://eriksdb.livejournal.com/171023.html?view=1180175
No other detail (from them or from me) about said paladin, however.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:51:02
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Originally posted by Zapato
Now thats interresting, all those articles and classes I took on ethics and philosofy made it even harder for me to RP a lawfull good character (since the difference between good and evil is impossible to understand in most cases). So I wonder how this female paladin fits in all of this
-Real world ethic and moral philosophies are not very compatible with the "good/evil are very tangible things" view that D&D espouses. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 19:10:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Zapato
Now thats interresting, all those articles and classes I took on ethics and philosofy made it even harder for me to RP a lawfull good character (since the difference between good and evil is impossible to understand in most cases). So I wonder how this female paladin fits in all of this
Well, to put it most simply, the stereotypical paladin acts in black and white. Either it's good, or it's evil, and those are the only choices. Holly Harrowslough was not nearly as bad about this as some paladins seem to be. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 21:17:23
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
To address the OP, WotC's blurb about Downshadow heavily implies that there is a paladin contained therein (here it is on my blog):
http://eriksdb.livejournal.com/171023.html?view=1180175
No other detail (from them or from me) about said paladin, however.
Cheers
"Ever wondered what it's really like to be a paladin? A holy knight, struggling to live in a very unholy city? A city crowded with tempting women who take a great interest in you...?"
That's not a bad thing! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 21:40:10
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Well, it certainly can lead to some interesting situations, let me tell you. 
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Pickel Bouldershoulder
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 21:52:27
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Well met
Another Paladin is featured in one of the pools series ( I Think Radiance) an undead one called Millaties or something like that??
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 22:12:38
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| -Mmm, that is right. There is a Paladin in [i/]Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor[/i]. Corran DArcey, Defender of Tyr the Even-Handed, third son of Baron Ethelred DArcey of Sarshel. An arrogant and snooty fellow, who learned to be more humble by the end. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 22:21:15
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Miltiades the undead paladin appears in Pools of Darkness and (I think?) Pool of Twilight as well.
Could be wrong on Twilight, but I think he has at least a cameo.
It's been so LONG since I read those books.
And let's not forget Dragonbait--the saurial paladin from the Azure Bonds series.
And there's a paladin in that Ghostwalker book by that one guy.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 23:06:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Miltiades the undead paladin appears in Pools of Darkness and (I think?) Pool of Twilight as well.
Could be wrong on Twilight, but I think he has at least a cameo.
That sounds about right. Though, it's been a long time since I last read those book as well. 
Miltiades also makes an appearance in the "Double Diamond Saga" novelettes.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 09:02:23
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Originally posted by Jimbobx
Thornhold by Elaine Cunningham features Paladins quite heavily.
True, but if Zapato is looking for heroic paladins I suggest he stay away from that book. |
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 12:36:40
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| Well heroic is definatly a plus . Still need to start on the Azure bonds books. Didn't know dragonbait was a paladin...sort of. |
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women."
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 13:38:12
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Miltiades the undead paladin appears in Pools of Darkness and (I think?) Pool of Twilight as well.
Could be wrong on Twilight, but I think he has at least a cameo.
That sounds about right. Though, it's been a long time since I last read those book as well.
Miltiades also makes an appearance in the "Double Diamond Saga" novelettes.
Damn, thanks for the spoiler!
I knew I should have read them as soon as they arrived!
I do like him as a character, so glad to know he is in there somewhere. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 15:04:28
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Originally posted by Zapato
Well heroic is definatly a plus . Still need to start on the Azure bonds books. Didn't know dragonbait was a paladin...sort of.
He's a paladin in his own saurial way, which is in itself a neat look at how to customize classes to fit a particular race/culture. 2e did it with the concept of "specialty priests" and 3.5 had racial substitution levels. Was Dragonbait ahead of his time? Perhaps.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36910 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 15:24:23
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Originally posted by Zapato
Well heroic is definatly a plus . Still need to start on the Azure bonds books. Didn't know dragonbait was a paladin...sort of.
They are awesome, and among the very few Realms novels that I recommend to everyone. |
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 20:46:50
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I always knew that good and evil was kept more distinct in DnD then in the real world. But I think I know truly realise it reading some posts here. Thanks for the info.
But back on the track: any more titles? Surely there must be novels featuring brave young men fighting evil? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 21:15:39
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Originally posted by Zapato
But back on the track: any more titles? Surely there must be novels featuring brave young men fighting evil?
You don't like women paladins? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 23:06:09
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Originally posted by Zapato
I always knew that good and evil was kept more distinct in DnD then in the real world. But I think I know truly realise it reading some posts here. Thanks for the info.
But back on the track: any more titles? Surely there must be novels featuring brave young men fighting evil?
See Elaine Cunningham's "Counselors & Kings" trilogy. Matteo, one of the protagonists, is, according to Elaine, "a paladin, for all intents and purposes."
And Paul Kemp's Shadowstorm novel features a Lathanderite paladin.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 14:50:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You don't like women paladins?
Indeed, not all paladins are men, or young, for that matter. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Zapato
Acolyte
Netherlands
38 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 15:46:14
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Yeah I do! Just...in a different way .
But I'm just looking for a couple of more titles...true story  |
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women."
-Conan the barbarian on what is best in life |
Edited by - Zapato on 26 Nov 2008 15:49:17 |
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Ateth Istarlin
Seeker
United Kingdom
80 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2008 : 12:18:13
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How about the "Threat from the Sea" trilogy?
No-one seems to have mentioned it yet! |
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Danny Glick
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 29 Nov 2008 : 16:12:40
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| The whole Double Diamond Saga is very Paladine heavy. Expect to shell out at least $50 for it, though. |
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