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Sylrae Posted - 01 Aug 2008 : 21:39:14
alrighty; I'm almost done all the FR novels I have.

I'm looking for a list of novels, preferably in chronological order, but specifically I'm looking for the elven ones right now.

I'm done with my drow kick (didn't read the drizzt books, but I don't really want to).

now I'd like to read elf novels. Not just novels with elves, but novels where the plot is about elves.

Can anyone give me a list? :P
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Nkoda Posted - 23 Aug 2008 : 01:58:50
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

This is an excellent read! I can't believe I didn't read, or don't remember it. I must have bought it while married, and never got a chance to read it. I agree that the OP should read Evermeet.

You'd definitely be the best choice to write about the Crown Wars.



Thanks for the vote of confidence. Always good to hear, even when discussing a non-existant project that has near-zero probability of entering the sphere of reality.






It's a pity because I really would love some early realms stories. But hey fan desires doesn't seem to motivate Wizards execs. Wizards should just merge with Blizzard so they can kill off everyone people like (cough Illidan) and keep effing everying up.
Aulduron Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 17:57:15
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham


Thanks for the vote of confidence. Always good to hear, even when discussing a non-existant project that has near-zero probability of entering the sphere of reality.



Lol

Just tell them that there is a high demand for those books.
Hawkins Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 17:29:09
The problem is convincing WotC that they should have her pen a book or three on the subject. Lately, it seems as if they have sustained Wisdom drain from Hasbro.
Brian R. James Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 14:59:42
quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

You'd definitely be the best choice to write about the Crown Wars.
Hmmm. Now *that* would be an excellent series and I second your recommendation that Elaine Cunningham pen such an epic.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 14:12:43
quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

This is an excellent read! I can't believe I didn't read, or don't remember it. I must have bought it while married, and never got a chance to read it. I agree that the OP should read Evermeet.

You'd definitely be the best choice to write about the Crown Wars.



Thanks for the vote of confidence. Always good to hear, even when discussing a non-existant project that has near-zero probability of entering the sphere of reality.


Aulduron Posted - 20 Aug 2008 : 05:06:30
This is an excellent read! I can't believe I didn't read, or don't remember it. I must have bought it while married, and never got a chance to read it. I agree that the OP should read Evermeet.

You'd definitely be the best choice to write about the Crown Wars.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 20:57:36
quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

Wow, I feel foolish. I could have sworn I'd read Evermeet, before. However I just found the book in a box and decided to re-read it, and nothing, after Araushnee being thrown down, sounds familiar. I had no idea so much of it took place before the Crown Wars.



Yes, quite a bit of the book retells elven legends and history--or at least, the version of history Danilo Thann was able to obtain.

Aulduron Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 17:34:21
Wow, I feel foolish. I could have sworn I'd read Evermeet, before. However I just found the book in a box and decided to re-read it, and nothing, after Araushnee being thrown down, sounds familiar. I had no idea so much of it took place before the Crown Wars.
chance87 Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 04:00:50
Just let us know when we can pre-order!
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Star Wars novels are being written in several eras: the Clone Wars, post New Jedi Order, several centuries earlier. Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.

Aulduron Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 19:03:05
quote:
Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.


Please do! That would more than make up for having no more Lireal books. The Crown Wars, the War of Three Leaves, Dragon Wars, stories of the Deep Shanatar, or ancient Delzoun, wars in Calimshan involving Djinn, Dragons, Dwarves, Efreet...etc could make fascinating reading, and I'd buy them up as fast as they could be published.
Icelander Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 13:03:01
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Star Wars novels are being written in several eras: the Clone Wars, post New Jedi Order, several centuries earlier. Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.


WotC has apparently stated that the novels are making more money than the game supplements. WotC likes money, for it keeps their dark masters happy in their infernal lairs.

You're one of their more popular novelists, I understand. Which means that at least some of the money triumphantly hoarded by Hasbro bean counters has come to them through your efforts. There is also a chance that you will yield more treasure for them in the future.

Therefore, a recommendation from you might carry some weight with them. If at all possible, argue for such an approach. Vocally, if necessary.

I'll buy Realms novels written in every single period of its history. With the exception of the period starting after 1375 DR, may it be stricken from all records.

Crown Wars are a good time, sure, but then again, so is the Weeping War. The fall of Phalorm. Ascalhorn.

Anything, really, as long as it's Pre-Spellplague.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 12:44:39
quote:
Originally posted by Aulduron

I just finished the Last Mythal series. I thought it was good. I especialy liked the Elven history. I'd love to read a whole series about the ancient nations.


Star Wars novels are being written in several eras: the Clone Wars, post New Jedi Order, several centuries earlier. Theoretically, it would be possible for the Realms novels to take the same approach. I would pretty much drop everything (that wasn't under contract....) to write an epic history of the Crown Wars.
Aulduron Posted - 18 Aug 2008 : 03:47:07
I just finished the Last Mythal series. I thought it was good. I especialy liked the Elven history. I'd love to read a whole series about the ancient nations.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 11:46:45
My point being, there's nothing in either book that one absolutely MUST KNOW before reading Evermeet.
MerrikCale Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 02:32:04
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

quote:
Originally posted by Nkoda

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?

There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.

Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.

Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.




although they may wnat to read the songs and swords novels before evermeet to get a sense of who Danilo Thann is first. I liked the character much more rereading Evermeet after the fact :).



If someone wants to go this route, then I would recommend Elfshadow, Elfsong, and Silver Shadows. I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to read Thornhold and Dreamspheres before Evermeet.



well, if you can't think of any.......
SirUrza Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 17:25:31
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

If someone wants to go this route, then I would recommend Elfshadow, Elfsong, and Silver Shadows. I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to read Thornhold and Dreamspheres before Evermeet.


*waves fanboy flag*

All good books to reads though. Evermeet is a good way to finish off the series.
ElaineCunningham Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 13:04:05
quote:
Originally posted by Nkoda

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?

There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.

Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.

Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.




although they may wnat to read the songs and swords novels before evermeet to get a sense of who Danilo Thann is first. I liked the character much more rereading Evermeet after the fact :).



If someone wants to go this route, then I would recommend Elfshadow, Elfsong, and Silver Shadows. I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to read Thornhold and Dreamspheres before Evermeet.
Nkoda Posted - 13 Aug 2008 : 02:41:23
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?

There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.

Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.

Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.




although they may wnat to read the songs and swords novels before evermeet to get a sense of who Danilo Thann is first. I liked the character much more rereading Evermeet after the fact :).
ElaineCunningham Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 18:36:10
Sylrae, have you read the anthology Realms of the Elves?

There's quite a bit about elves in RAS's In Sylvan Shadows, which is part of the cleric quintet.

Several of my Songs & Swords books have a half-elf character, but the one that deals most directly with elven people and cultures is Silver Shadows. And there's Evermeet, which is two books in one: Danilo Thann's attempt to gather elven legends and history as a gift to his half-elf love, and a present-day (1371) story to which the various threads of legend and lore are tied. It's not your average FR adventure, but there are definitely elves therein.

Many thanks to the folks who recommended my books. I thought it worthwhile, however, to specify which ones actually focus on elves. Some of them have elven characters--the Counselors & Kings trilogy, for example, has a wild elf villain--but are not ABOUT elves, per se.
MerrikCale Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 15:11:14
Frostfell is an underrated novel
Karzak Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 08:04:36
I didn't dislike Last Mythal because I dislike elves or didn't like the Return. I disliked that borefest because it's dully written and the characters have all the presence and personalities of bran flakes.
Nkoda Posted - 12 Aug 2008 : 01:00:09
quote:
Originally posted by Karzak

Go for things by Elaine Cunningham. The Last Mythal is flavorless canon-mutilating tat and reads like a campaign transcript where the DM is uninspired and the players are deadly bored.



I actually enjoyed Last Mythal. But then again I really like Elves and i thought the Return was cool.
Karzak Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 12:35:28
If all else fails, just go to the wizards website and look through the sample chapters. If you find the writing of the first chapter (chapters? Think they put up prologue and first chapter there) of, say, Forsaken House - the first book of Last Mythal - as bland and mediocre as I did, chances are you won't much enjoy the rest of the trilogy either. And on that note, wow, I didn't realize there was so many threads, each with lots of comments, devoted to the discussion of Last Mythal, and that's not even counting the Book Club sub-forum.

Any particular reason you don't really want to read the Drizzt books, by the way? Not that I'm trying to convince you otherwise or anything; as far as I'm concerned, if you don't want to read those, then you sound like you have excellent tastes.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 04 Aug 2008 : 17:31:53
I certainly didn't care for the Last Mythal trilogy. If you're curious about it though, give it a try.

I highly recommend Elaine Cunningham's novels.
Sylrae Posted - 04 Aug 2008 : 06:48:03
I have to agree with the Elaine Cunningham thing. the Starlight and Shadows trilogy are some of my favorite books. I've read them twice (other than starlight and shadows, the only novel I've read more than once is LoTR, and ive read it like 6 times - just not in the past 3 yrs)
scererar Posted - 04 Aug 2008 : 04:43:41
Avoid the last Mythal trilogy if you must, but IMO, you will be missing out on realms lore that is quite enjoyable. These boards are filled with opinions for and against just about every FR novel. My vote is research the site on a particular trilogy for the various opinions, or read them your self to form your own educated opinion.

The return of the Arch wizards also has some information on Elves, but opinions are all over the spectrum for or against this trilogy. I liked it

Additionally, I concur with Karzak and Wooley, novels by Elaine Cunningham are worth picking up.
Sylrae Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 18:33:26
good to know.

start with evermeet.
and avoid the newest book.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 12:51:20
While Elaine's books are loved by just about everyone, the opinions on Last Mythal obviously vary. While I do agree with *some* of the things its detractors list as faults, I still rather enjoyed the trilogy, and I don't have a problem recommending it to others.
Karzak Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 12:36:41
Go for things by Elaine Cunningham. The Last Mythal is flavorless canon-mutilating tat and reads like a campaign transcript where the DM is uninspired and the players are deadly bored.
scererar Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 04:45:17
mostly 1374 Year of lightning storms

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