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Kalin Agrivar Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 16:19:57
I just noticed in Candlekeep's bibliography that in the comics listing the (DC Comics) Forgotten Realms comics is listed but the (DC Comics) Advanced Dungeons and Dragons series is not...which technically is not a "Realms" comic but practically it is...it is the "Waterdeep" comic series that has become "more" canonish than the For comic has and ran longer than the For comic...

An oversight? Maybe a correction to the bibliography? I hope so...I enjoyed the "Waterdeep" series a little bit more than the "Realmsmaster" series"
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MerrikCale Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 01:59:55
I would love to see the old FR comic in a TPB.
Ardashir Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 16:17:04
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Kyriani, and the son of Osco Salabuck (the halfling that died in issue 5, IIRC). Osco's family wasn't even mentioned in the comic, but it's close enough for me.

Steven Schend and I are both Kyriani fans, but he decided to trump me by putting her in his novel, just so that he could claim to be her biggest fan.



I'm big on Kyriani myself , but just when did she acquire the limp I remember being mentioned in the novel?
The Sage Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 01:30:07
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by GMWestermeyer

The original DC comics are excellent, I enjoyed both immensely, though the storytelling in FR felt a bit titghter, and the art somewhat better, compared to AD&D.

Which minor characters appear in _Blackstaff_?



Kyriani, and the son of Osco Salabuck (the halfling that died in issue 5, IIRC). Osco's family wasn't even mentioned in the comic, but it's close enough for me.

Steven Schend and I are both Kyriani fans, but he decided to trump me by putting her in his novel, just so that he could claim to be her biggest fan.

I got a buzz out that myself. I think that, of all the characters from the comics, Kyri was my favorite too.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 17:57:50
quote:
Originally posted by GMWestermeyer

The original DC comics are excellent, I enjoyed both immensely, though the storytelling in FR felt a bit titghter, and the art somewhat better, compared to AD&D.

Which minor characters appear in _Blackstaff_?



Kyriani, and the son of Osco Salabuck (the halfling that died in issue 5, IIRC). Osco's family wasn't even mentioned in the comic, but it's close enough for me.

Steven Schend and I are both Kyriani fans, but he decided to trump me by putting her in his novel, just so that he could claim to be her biggest fan.
GMWestermeyer Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 17:06:26
The original DC comics are excellent, I enjoyed both immensely, though the storytelling in FR felt a bit titghter, and the art somewhat better, compared to AD&D.

Which minor characters appear in _Blackstaff_?
Brakkart Posted - 27 Sep 2006 : 12:35:30
I have all three of the Drizzt TPB's thus far and am looking forward to getting all the Icewind Dale ones as well. In fact with the quality of them (some small issues with the art notwithstanding [bleeding Myconids!]), I would like to see Devil's Due publish a TPB for each of the Legend of Drizzt books. Not a great fan of RAS's writing style, so the comics are far better imho.
MerrikCale Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 20:45:38
I actually thought they did a pretty good job on the Drizzt series. The art in Dragonlance is awful so I haven't bothered with it. But Tim Seeley is excellent.
Archwizard Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 02:49:20
Or the rest of the Drizzt series...
I think the original novels were better, they showed more of Drizzt's thoughts and emotions. No matter what anyone thinks of the novels, I think the comics are lacking something that could be found in the novels. This is why I would like to see an original Realms comic with characters and stories designed for the comics medium.
MerrikCale Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 02:40:59
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My FR comics experience is limited almost exclusively to the titles published by DC and TSR, in the late 80's and early 90's.



me too...I hope the "new" comics generate more D&D players but I really have no interest in a Realms comic that rehashes an old novel story...

now if a new Realms storyline came out, like the Knights of Myth drannor of the Company of Crazed Ventures, then that would get my interest



Me too. But I think its more likely we'll get rehashes like Swords and Songs and the like.
Kalin Agrivar Posted - 06 Sep 2006 : 14:37:31
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My FR comics experience is limited almost exclusively to the titles published by DC and TSR, in the late 80's and early 90's.



me too...I hope the "new" comics generate more D&D players but I really have no interest in a Realms comic that rehashes an old novel story...

now if a new Realms storyline came out, like the Knights of Myth drannor of the Company of Crazed Ventures, then that would get my interest
Wooly Rupert Posted - 06 Sep 2006 : 01:34:15
quote:
Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth

not sure if this is related to the comics you guys are talking about but,


My FR comics experience is limited almost exclusively to the titles published by DC and TSR, in the late 80's and early 90's.
Beirnadri Magranth Posted - 06 Sep 2006 : 00:42:50
not sure if this is related to the comics you guys are talking about but,
I just flipped through the comic version of Exile by RAS and was so terribly disappointed!
It didnt even pick up on the fact that the women are supposed to be more muscly than the men and that not everyone had perky breasts etc.
I was sad to see blood coming out the myconid..
the interior design was boring and barren
the colors were to playful and bright
which is a shame because the art is the key aprt of any graphic novel especially one that covers the plot of a wellwritten novel.
Kuje Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 22:33:46
Just to add another, there's another page in Shining South, which is page 132, that also references the comic. :)
Wooly Rupert Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 03:01:31
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

We all missed another reference. Pages 58 to 59 of Shining South for 3/3.5e has the stats for the Astrolabe of Nimbral and the reference to the Realms Master. :)
Oh, yes... so it was.

Funny, I recorded this in my notebooks, but failed to mention it here.




I mentioned that one recently in another thread. I just didn't mention it here, because I wasn't running thru the entire list.
The Sage Posted - 05 Sep 2006 : 01:43:33
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

We all missed another reference. Pages 58 to 59 of Shining South for 3/3.5e has the stats for the Astrolabe of Nimbral and the reference to the Realms Master. :)
Oh, yes... so it was.

Funny, I recorded this in my notebooks, but failed to mention it here.
Kuje Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 23:29:31
Ah hum,

We all missed another reference. Pages 58 to 59 of Shining South for 3/3.5e has the stats for the Astrolabe of Nimbral and the reference to the Realms Master. :)

Er, maybe that was the reference Knight meant but he didn't clarify which Shining South he was talking about since there was the old sourcebook of the same name.
The Sage Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 06:44:01
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

The DL series has had all kinds of up and downs.


As did the old DC/TSR title... They couldn't decide which characters to focus on, nor even what timeframe to stick with... The first couple of story arcs were good, but after that, it was all over the place.

Aye.

Though, I was actually referring to the printing and publishing of the new DL comic. It's had all kinds of problems, including shipping to countries outside the US.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 06:08:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

The DL series has had all kinds of up and downs.


As did the old DC/TSR title... They couldn't decide which characters to focus on, nor even what timeframe to stick with... The first couple of story arcs were good, but after that, it was all over the place.
MerrikCale Posted - 04 Sep 2006 : 03:41:35
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

The DL series has had all kinds of up and downs.

I'm glad the publishers have decided to print the entire series as TPB next year.




I like the art in the Drizzt book more than at DL which I only glanced at. I have the first Drizzt TPB. Its great.
The Sage Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 16:44:33
The DL series has had all kinds of up and downs.

I'm glad the publishers have decided to print the entire series as TPB next year.
MerrikCale Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 16:29:53
The Drizzt series is well done. I know they started a Dragonlance one as well.
The Sage Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 01:24:59
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

Have they considered putting the AD&D comic into trades? I have a few old ones but not the whole series.



It doesn't seem likely that an older (and unfortunately, not terribly popular) series would get collected into a trade paperback -- especially since it was a collaboration between two companies.
Agreed.

Though comic companies have developed TPB of joint work before... like Marvel/DC, Marvel/Image, Marvel/Wildstorm, DC/Verigo, and Dark Horse/Image -- but these have all been fairly popular series in their own rights.

The new FR comics featuring Drizzt may rekindled some interest in older FR comics, eventually... to the point where they may be either reprinted or collected together into trade-paperbacks. But for now howeverm the focus is still on Drizzt comics.

quote:
I see various issues of the comic pop up on eBay pretty often, so I'd recommend looking there.
Milehigh Comics tends to have copies pop up occasionally as well... though just not the three I'm missing.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 02 Sep 2006 : 17:26:48
quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

Have they considered putting the AD&D comic into trades? I have a few old ones but not the whole series.



It doesn't seem likely that an older (and unfortunately, not terribly popular) series would get collected into a trade paperback -- especially since it was a collaboration between two companies.

I see various issues of the comic pop up on eBay pretty often, so I'd recommend looking there.
MerrikCale Posted - 02 Sep 2006 : 02:54:03
Have they considered putting the AD&D comic into trades? I have a few old ones but not the whole series.
Ardashir Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 00:29:06
quote:
And actually, since AD&D was set mostly in and around Waterdeep, it is a Realms comic. That's not to mention the fact that many characters and situations from the comics have been entered into canon lore by sourcebooks, which makes it canon. Timoth Eyesbright, Onyx the Invincible, and Vajra Valmeyjar are all down in Tethyr, and Kyri is proprietor of Selūne's Smile, she's a prominent person at the House of the Moon, she's a Moonstar and Lord of Waterdeep, and she appears in Blackstaff.



That last bit of information just gives me all the more reason to grab a copy of Blackstaff. I always did like Kyriana and the others (and didn't Vajra become a champion of Selune or the like?).

And just where all have the other characters been mentioned, aside from the sources listed above? Did anyone ever write down what became of Dwalimor or the golem she-dwarf (I forget her name)?
Steven Schend Posted - 29 Aug 2006 : 03:11:03
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar

quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met

How did I know that the first person to respond to this would be the Furry One

Indeed, Wooly is correct. I have been meaning to get this done for some time. I'll endeavor to complete these pages over the coming weeks.



Hi Alaundo

is everything in both comics considered canon ?



As the guy who used to be the liaison and approvals guy for TSR and the AD&D comic with Kim Yale (may she rest in peace) at DC, I can say unequivocally that the events and characters are all canonical.

Steven
who also led the charge to move the characters into the game material as well...
The Sage Posted - 29 Aug 2006 : 03:07:59
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Echo... echo... echo...



Hey, we did it again the other day with the Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II details. Why break the trend that's forming?
Archwizard Posted - 29 Aug 2006 : 03:02:41
I think it's time for another Forgotten Realms comic series, something with original or lesser known characters set up for the serial nature of comics. No more rehash of Drizzt's novels into comic form, as interesting as those are, something more independent of established novels would be refreshing.
Kuje Posted - 29 Aug 2006 : 03:00:54
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Echo... echo... echo...





That's what I was thinking. :)
Wooly Rupert Posted - 29 Aug 2006 : 02:52:50
Echo... echo... echo...


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