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| Bakra |
Posted - 02 May 2005 : 15:07:42
Waterdeep comes out in June, anyone else besides me planning on buying this? 
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| Piergeiron |
Posted - 03 Jun 2005 : 17:34:41
http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050601a
Excerpts, these are. I can't wait, and I mean I'm dying having to have to wait, for it to be available here in Sweden. If the rest of the book are half as good as these ...
This is /exactly/ what I need for my campaign. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 06:08:51
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, I think the House of the Moon has only been detailed in one source, as I recall. I can't check to be certain at the moment...
It's given in great detail in Powers & Pantheons.
--Eric
Yup. And the "Phases of the Moon" story arc in the AD&D comic also happened, in part, in and around this temple. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 05:14:17
Thanks Eric  . That's the tome I was thinking of  .
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| ericlboyd |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 04:54:02
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, I think the House of the Moon has only been detailed in one source, as I recall. I can't check to be certain at the moment...
It's given in great detail in Powers & Pantheons.
--Eric |
| The Sage |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 04:40:06
Actually, I think the House of the Moon has only been detailed in one source, as I recall. I can't check to be certain at the moment...
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 03:23:23
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
You'll find out a lot of info about the religious faiths of Waterdeep and how they interact, which was an area barely touched on by City of Splendors.
Now that, is particularly interesting. Thanks for sharing Eric. I've always felt that the religious detailing of Waterdeep in the past was less-than-complete.
I'll agree with that... There's a bunch of temples in the City of Splendors, and the Plinth, and yet we've seen so little of Waterdeep's religious side... I think the only Waterdhavian house of worship that's received any real attention is the House of the Moon, and I think that's only because both Shar and Selūne spent some time there. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 10 May 2005 : 01:10:50
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
You'll find out a lot of info about the religious faiths of Waterdeep and how they interact, which was an area barely touched on by City of Splendors.
Now that, is particularly interesting. Thanks for sharing Eric. I've always felt that the religious detailing of Waterdeep in the past was less-than-complete.
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There's less focus on the noble families, although there's plenty to work with.
That is also good to hear. While I would have preferred more data on the various families, I can often support most of the basic material on my own.
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| Snotlord |
Posted - 09 May 2005 : 22:44:30
Sound great. Waterdeep and the North, and the new book, sound like a perfect match. Can't wait  |
| ericlboyd |
Posted - 09 May 2005 : 21:28:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Eric, any kind of heads-up you can offer on what else we'll see in this book?
Not much, given that I'm a freelancer and not a WoTC employee.
I can say that I tried to design for the DM who own City of Splendors and for the DM who does not. In practice, that means I covered some of the same ground, but I changed the emphasis. You'll find out a lot of info about the religious faiths of Waterdeep and how they interact, which was an area barely touched on by City of Splendors. There's less focus on the noble families, although there's plenty to work with.
I also tried to cover lots of new ground, including the impact of 15 years of the Book Department focusing on the City of Splendors. ;-) In other words, Waterdeep is certainly in need of heroes to defend it from threats within and without.
--Eric |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 09 May 2005 : 17:47:17
Lifting from another scroll...
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by Wil_Upchurch
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Umm didnt we get an Intiate of Loviator in Shining south?
Indeed we did. It's on pg. 20  .
Hey, to be fair, I couldn't have known that when I wrote it. :)
And I'll claim credit for making sure there weren't two versions of the Initiate of Loviatar feat. ;-)
I'll also forewarn you that the Initiate of Shar feat will also appear in City of Splendors: Waterdeep. Again, another instance of concurrent design.
--Eric
Eric, any kind of heads-up you can offer on what else we'll see in this book? |
| Reefy |
Posted - 06 May 2005 : 16:21:05
My desire for both Waterdeep books has only increased further. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 05 May 2005 : 03:02:35
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Could be, or maybe the City of Splendors has lost some of its lustre of late. Eric let slip on the FRDMING List that the Shadow Thieves have returned to Waterdeep - that sounds like civic strife in the making to me ...
-- George Krashos
Oh, I was just reading their write up in Lords of Darkness and thinking, "Whenever they get back to Waterdeep, things are going to get interesante." 
Oh Elaith Craulnober should love this development. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 05 May 2005 : 02:35:39
That is interesting...
I wonder what effects it will now have on the city itself. I wonder how the Lords will respond...
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| George Krashos |
Posted - 05 May 2005 : 02:02:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think the civil strife line is a generic blurb about the Cities series, not about this novel in particular.
Could be, or maybe the City of Splendors has lost some of its lustre of late. Eric let slip on the FRDMING List that the Shadow Thieves have returned to Waterdeep - that sounds like civic strife in the making to me ...
-- George Krashos
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| Alaundo |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 21:55:37
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Originally posted by Xysma
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think the civil strife line is a generic blurb about the Cities series, not about this novel in particular.
I believe you are correct oh Wooly one. Have you read the other books in the Cities series? I've been putting them off, just wondering how they compare to other Realms novels.
Well met
Take a look around in the Novels section of the forum, for there are discussions on this very series. It appears as though they are very well liked novels by many scribes... myself included. |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 21:14:02
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Originally posted by Xysma
Have you read the other books in the Cities series? I've been putting them off, just wondering how they compare to other Realms novels.
The most recent one I read is 'the Ravens' which is set in Raven's Bluff. While the location of the novel is the city and it does convey some of the feeling of what Raven's Bluff should be like, I prefer the style in which Volo's Guides were written for that. The series, to me are more another set of adventures set within a Realms location although there is Realmslore within. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 17:54:02
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think the civil strife line is a generic blurb about the Cities series, not about this novel in particular.
I believe you are correct oh Wooly one. Have you read the other books in the Cities series? I've been putting them off, just wondering how they compare to other Realms novels.
No, most of them came out during a time frame when I was uninterested in the fiction WotC was putting out. I'm now trying to backtrack and find those books. |
| Xysma |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 17:35:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think the civil strife line is a generic blurb about the Cities series, not about this novel in particular.
I believe you are correct oh Wooly one. Have you read the other books in the Cities series? I've been putting them off, just wondering how they compare to other Realms novels. |
| Xysma |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 17:32:22
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Is it just me or do those two tomes look beautiful side by side?
They look beautiful indeed **drools** |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 22:52:43
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Waterdeep fans should take a look at the top of Elaine Cunningham's web page.
Is it just me or do those two tomes look beautiful side by side?
And civil strife? What on Faerun could be happening to my favorite Realms' city? Any theories?
I think the civil strife line is a generic blurb about the Cities series, not about this novel in particular. |
| Rudar Dimble |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 19:20:15
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
And civil strife? What on Faerun could be happening to my favorite Realms' city? Any theories?
I would like to see some disturbance in the city. Like Lord Piereigon dying and no suitable successor can be found. Or a problem in the Yawning Portal with the entrance to Undermountain.
Just some thoughts |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 18:40:46
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Originally posted by George Krashos
...I'm looking forward to seeing the in-print version and seeing what survived the editing process.
Good idea George, maybe you and Eric can fill us in afterwards with some of the stuff that didn't make the edited version - unless NDAs or other such rules would prevent sharing the none-published lore... |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 18:21:43
Waterdeep fans should take a look at the top of Elaine Cunningham's web page.
Is it just me or do those two tomes look beautiful side by side?
And civil strife? What on Faerun could be happening to my favorite Realms' city? Any theories? |
| Rudar Dimble |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 14:42:43
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Originally posted by Snotlord
I have not read it, only flipped through it at the store, but it seem to cover the city districts very well, with very good maps for each district. The style of the maps are similar (even identical? can't remember) with Dennis Kauth's (?) FR maps, but there are more of them.
I got a very good sense of the layout of the city, just by flipping through the book. Hardly groundbreaking, but the execution seemed superb!
Hmm...I will go through a copy of it next time I'm in the store to buy another FR product |
| Snotlord |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 14:39:46
I have not read it, only flipped through it at the store, but it seem to cover the city districts very well, with very good maps for each district. The style of the maps are similar (even identical? can't remember) with Dennis Kauth's (?) FR maps, but there are more of them.
I got a very good sense of the layout of the city, just by flipping through the book. Hardly groundbreaking, but the execution seemed superb! |
| Rudar Dimble |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 14:29:47
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Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, I'd have to agree with you Mr Lord.
Though I am a little hesitant to mention it here, the Sharn: City of Towers sourcebook was a wonderful detailing of that fascinating city. Of course, with the history of Waterdeep, and its previous detailing in earlier editions, I expect a great deal more to be covered in City of Splendors, but if the aforementioned S:CoT is in fact the NEW standard for WotC city books, then all signs point to something grand indeed for W:CoS.
I've never seen any Eberron product, so that includes Sharn. Can anyone tell me what's so good or different about it... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 13:58:11
Actually, I'd have to agree with you Mr Lord.
Though I am a little hesitant to mention it here, the Sharn: City of Towers sourcebook was a wonderful detailing of that fascinating city. Of course, with the history of Waterdeep, and its previous detailing in earlier editions, I expect a great deal more to be covered in City of Splendors, but if the aforementioned S:CoT is in fact the NEW standard for WotC city books, then all signs point to something grand indeed for W:CoS.
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| George Krashos |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 13:14:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Now that, friend Krash, is quite encouraging to read!
Can you tell me how much info we get on the Lords? The same as before, or more? And will there be any surprises on the Lords' roster?
The whole book is full of surprises, Wooly. I can't say anymore or else Mr Boyd will be mighty peeved, but you can always rely on Eric to give everything just that little bit of a spin or twist.
-- George Krashos
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| Snotlord |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 11:51:59
The Waterdeep is a must-buy as far as I am concerned. I just hope they include good maps, as the city maps in 3e FR has been just about the only thing I think could have been better. The maps in Sharn, for that other setting, looked fantastic. The maps in, say Unapproachable East, looked good but somehow seemed to only include parts of the cities, which annoyed me immencely. I really hope Sharn is the new standard for wotc city books.
As for the lore, well, between Waterdeep and the North, and the new book, I think I'm ready for a new campaign |
| Rudar Dimble |
Posted - 03 May 2005 : 08:57:46
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Now that, friend Krash, is quite encouraging to read!
Indeed.
I'm particularly interested in what we will learn about some of the places and locales in Waterdeep that have, in the past, just received "token" references in previously published material on the City of Splendors.
Yes, that's what I meant when I said I'm particularly interested in the changes and the things they've added. For a perfect lay-out of the city I will always be using the 2nd edition box setting |
