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| Purple Dragon Knight |
Posted - 16 Nov 2007 : 03:32:49
Ok: got this yesterday.
This adventure is top notch. I highly recommend it. Actually almost missed my plane this morning thanks for this book keeping me up in the weeeeee hours!  |
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| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 15:10:26
Stop it, stop it!
As for the module, I would also love to see some more reviews (or something similar) regarding the adventure as a whole. |
| Kajehase |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 14:08:57
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Oh I don't think there's any need for the tank top...i'd be quite happy to see thee in my chamber without it 
I'd keep the tanktop on anyway, 'lyrna (because I'd have to shave my chest otherwise ) - think of the old man's heart. Sure he'd die happy but still.... |
| Dart Ambermoon |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 02:27:00
It seems that either Sune or Liira is running amok in the halls these days. *cough*
Not to break the spirit and everything, but a question regarding this module (and if I may, the series alltogether, since I haven´t purchased any of them, yet). Would those that have it say, that there is enough lore, hooks and potential ideas in there that it would be a good purchase, even if one doesn´t intend to run it as the campaign per se (´cause I don´t intend to, but my curiousity has been peeked)? |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 00:39:13
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Oh I don't think there's any need for the tank top...i'd be quite happy to see thee in my chamber without it
Oh my!   |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 21:11:20
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Alaundo
What's that? Oh the tank top modeling... oh very well, thou art forgiven
I'm so glad! Now I just need the tank top.
Oh I don't think there's any need for the tank top...i'd be quite happy to see thee in my chamber without it
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Just do like the rest of us: wait until he nods off, and then grab a couple. You know how it is with old folks and dozing off...
Aye, I can still read and hear ye, Furry One  |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 19:28:06
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Originally posted by Alaundo
What's that? Oh the tank top modeling... oh very well, thou art forgiven
I'm so glad! Now I just need the tank top. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 19:01:03
Just do like the rest of us: wait until he nods off, and then grab a couple. You know how it is with old folks and dozing off... |
| Jorkens |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 18:25:20
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Well, yeah, besides Alaundo...?
And don't think that thee will get away with it either, Rinonalyrna 
What's that? Oh the tank top modeling... oh very well, thou art forgiven
I will just add here that I said nothing and I therefore think I deserve to know the time and place for this.
And Alaundo, now that age is setting in, I think it would be a nice gesture for me to take a couple of those dancing girls of your hands. |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 17:40:57
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, Big Al is three days older than dirt...
I am so gonna catch it for that comment!
Why I oughta!!
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Well, yeah, besides Alaundo...?
And don't think that thee will get away with it either, Rinonalyrna
What's that? Oh the tank top modeling... oh very well, thou art forgiven |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 15:04:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, Big Al is three days older than dirt...
I am so gonna catch it for that comment!
Well, yeah, besides Alaundo...? |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 14:54:38
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Come on, is anyone here old enough to be truly senile?
Well, Big Al is three days older than dirt...
I am so gonna catch it for that comment! |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 14:07:13
Come on, is anyone here old enough to be truly senile? |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 10:10:02
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by The Sage
I can't help but wonder whether that means something. 
I know what it means but well, never mind. :)
Aye. But if I go with Wooly's option, that means I can forget what it means.
Senility: the choice of an old generation! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 06:31:58
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I can't help but wonder whether that means something.
I know what it means but well, never mind. :)
Aye. But if I go with Wooly's option, that means I can forget what it means.
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| Kuje |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 05:53:14
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I can't help but wonder whether that means something.
I know what it means but well, never mind. :) |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 01:45:17
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I can't help but wonder whether that means something.
Yup. It means senility is setting in! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 01:36:25
You know, I just realised... I haven't purchased Anauroch yet. In fact, I haven't even made a mail order for it.
I can't help but wonder whether that means something.
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| Butterface |
Posted - 12 Dec 2007 : 00:52:45
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
You give each of your other spellcasters one scroll of the 0-level spell light (no save, no spell resistance), which you can write yourself for next to nothing, or buy for a pittance. Then you wait in ambush. During the surprise round you allow your twenty-five miscellaneous spellcasters to all read their light scrolls, all of them targeting the same poor sod, while you and your remaining henchman hold action and read your scrolls together at the end of the surprise round
This would not work, as Light can only be cast on an object, and it has a range of touch. I suppose some DMs might allow Bob's 25 henchmen to walk up and touch the Simbul's dress, and cast light upon it, but personally I would not allow that, and consider it to be casting the spell on the character's person. Even if Light could be used in that way, however, those 25 henchmen still have to approach the Simbul and make melee touch attacks since Light has a range of Touch.
Another reason I don't think this would work, is that I personally as a DM would rule that 25 Light spells cast upon a person would equal one spell effect. It's not like Light spells stack - you couldn't cast Light 25 times on an object to light up the entirety of a vast cavern, for instance. Common sense would dictate that each new Light spell would overlap and take priority over the previous spell.
I think there are much more broken combinations in the Spell Compendium - Revenance and Revivify for example. Bob dies. Jessie the cleric casts Revenance on Bob 5 rounds later. Jessie waits for Bob to die again. Jessie then casts Revivify on Bob the next round. Bob is at -1 hit points, but suffers no level loss (and Jessie only had to pay 1,000 gold instead of 5k for a raise dead that would've resulted in level loss). Yeah, we've had to house rule that. |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 28 Nov 2007 : 18:41:02
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
This one looked really interested, but I have weird mixed feelings over this. I love phaerimm, so anything that touches on them, even tangentially, is good in my book. And it actually seems to have utilized a lot of Realmslore, much as Shadowdale did.
On the other hand, a lot of it seems to have been utilized in the manner of "closing loop holes." It feels, from what I read in the bookstore, like it really is the last shot some of these elements have at being used. That coupled with the idea that this is likely the last Realms RPG product I'm probably going to pick up, at least for a good long while unless something drastically changes, has kind of kept me from snatching this up as quickly as I normally would have.
Oh, and when did veserabs loose their feet?
I don't know the answer to your question, but I hope that you are wrong about this being "the last roundup" for the Realms.
For all my whinging I'd encourage you to buy it for itself, KnightErrantJR. I almsot certainly won't run it as written, but it's nice to have some rules for and details about Candlekeep, Oreme, etc. The detail about veserab loyalty to a rider is a very handy bit of lore to use as a petard upon which to hoist a PC. Hehehehehe ... oh ... I gotta stop doing that in public....
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| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 28 Nov 2007 : 18:32:57
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Originally posted by Bakra
Jamallo,
Bob of Bezantur 5th level unemployed wizard has 9000 gold pieces worth of ‘stuff’ This is not cash on hand, he could convert everything, including all of his clothes he is wearing, to get this value but would rather look silly. ...
The details of the example are completely irrelevant to my point, but please note that Bob would have 2,875 gold pieces in change left over after paying for his scrolls. More than enough to buy a set of robes, pay for a room, and hire some 1st-level henchpeople. I say no further on this lest I steer the discussion away from the book and the severely broken spell it gives to the phaerimm.
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| Dalor Darden |
Posted - 28 Nov 2007 : 14:48:22
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Oh, and when did veserabs loose their feet?
I like what the Shadovar are riding on the cover of the adventure. They look something like a fang dragon...
As for the Veserabs: didn't you know there were as many species of that particular monster as there are artists to draw them? LOL |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 28 Nov 2007 : 02:58:46
This one looked really interested, but I have weird mixed feelings over this. I love phaerimm, so anything that touches on them, even tangentially, is good in my book. And it actually seems to have utilized a lot of Realmslore, much as Shadowdale did.
On the other hand, a lot of it seems to have been utilized in the manner of "closing loop holes." It feels, from what I read in the bookstore, like it really is the last shot some of these elements have at being used. That coupled with the idea that this is likely the last Realms RPG product I'm probably going to pick up, at least for a good long while unless something drastically changes, has kind of kept me from snatching this up as quickly as I normally would have.
Oh, and when did veserabs loose their feet? |
| freyar |
Posted - 27 Nov 2007 : 16:47:53
Well, I don't know the spell in question, but it doesn't take too many more levels beyond 5th to get that kind of cash. It does seem a bit broken to me.
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*sigh* When I first received the Spell Compendium, one of my most severe criticisms was that it did not state the source for any of the spells, so that there was no way to determine the context of the spell in its original presentation. Reciprocal gyre, now authoritatively reprinted in a Forgotten Realms book, enters Faerun bereft of any indication of how it was originally intended to be used, but showing clear evidence of its ability to break the Realms. Maybe that is to what the "sundering of the world" referred. I say again: *sigh*
Don't have SC, but I have the same issue with the Magic Item Compendium. It would have been much better to have the original source of the magic items. So now I have to go through and do that work myself. |
| Bakra |
Posted - 27 Nov 2007 : 13:44:32
Jamallo,
Bob of Bezantur 5th level unemployed wizard has 9000 gold pieces worth of ‘stuff’ This is not cash on hand, he could convert everything, including all of his clothes he is wearing, to get this value but would rather look silly. And since he would be in a decent size city with a pile of gold (remember he converted everything, the merchants probably didn’t throw in the bag) I would give him a few minutes before being hauled to jail for being nude on the street and maybe locked up in an asylum for doing what he just did or for what he might do with all that gold. Remember he just converted everything to 9000 bright shiny heavy gold coins, sounds like a crazy person to me and if he isn’t crazy then he is a trouble maker who could be planning on over throwing the local government. And I don’t have a DMG on hand but I do know there is an obscure rule about a character can’t have an individual item worth so-so amount. So if it is 1/3 of his wealth then he can have the two maximized scrolls and nothing else. Oh, I do know that henchmen are not counted as equipment, so he would still have to hire them which would draw a lot of attention from some organization, unless the character was being sneaky about it. Bbob doesn’t sound like a Blackstaff to me) And I don’t know about your DM, my DM uses NPC stats as guidelines and adjusts when necessary.
The Simbul would survive then blast poor Bob or depending on her mood make him an apprentice after polymorphing him into an owl.
It is always fun to find ways to break the game mechanics wise but there is always the DM who is supposes to keep things in check….and the other player characters interven too.
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| seankreynolds |
Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 23:39:48
{It was an error. Skip Williams is actually the third author, and he's properly credited (rather than Sean) in the interior front matter.}
Weird. :) |
| Jamallo Kreen |
Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 19:23:34
I have read and re-read the spell reciprocal gyre for the past week and -- unless I am grossly misunderstanding it (doubtful after so many readings) -- I have to ask ... why don't the phaerimm teach it to their minions and just conquer the whole world? Who could stand up to them? I mean, c'mon, how broken does a spell have to be before those who know it use it as effectively as would a PC? Example:
You're Bob of Bezantur, 5th level unemployed male human PC wizard, with 9,000 gold pieces (the DMG sez so), and your girlfriend won't give you any sugar until you are allowed to join that cool club of bald wizards that the local tharcion belongs to, so what are you to do? Easy! You hire twenty-six 1st-level NPC spellcaster henchmen: five bards, five clerics, five druids, five sorcerers and five wizards (or you can mix and match -- the combination doesn't matter as long as there are twenty-six spellcasters of any core class and at least one of them is a sorcerer or wizard). You buy two scrolls of maximized reciprocal gyre for three grand each; you keep one and give the other to your sorcerer or wizard henchman. You give each of your other spellcasters one scroll of the 0-level spell light (no save, no spell resistance), which you can write yourself for next to nothing, or buy for a pittance. Then you wait in ambush. During the surprise round you allow your twenty-five miscellaneous spellcasters to all read their light scrolls, all of them targeting the same poor sod, while you and your remaining henchman hold action and read your scrolls together at the end of the surprise round, whereupon your mark has a 97.5% chance of sustaining a minimum of 300 points of damage, and, more probably, 600 points of damage, with a less than 1% chance of a mishap to yourself. (The reader of the other maximized reciprocal gyre has a minutely higher chance of a mishap, but he's just an NPC henchman, so who cares?).
Twenty-five scrolls of light -- 125 gold pieces
Two scrolls of maximized reciprocal gyre -- 6,000 gold pieces
Blowing up The Simbul in one round -- priceless
Within the adventure, why don't the phaerimm do the same thing to the PCs? I mean they're PCs for the gods' sake! They might as well have, "We're gonna kill you sucka" painted on all their shields. Doesn't every monster within a fifty mile radius start running when they approach (unless they were unfortunate enough to be rolled up on a random encounter table)? Wouldn't the phaerimm, who forced the destruction of Netheril, have sense enough to ambush the PCs as I've described?
*sigh* When I first received the Spell Compendium, one of my most severe criticisms was that it did not state the source for any of the spells, so that there was no way to determine the context of the spell in its original presentation. Reciprocal gyre, now authoritatively reprinted in a Forgotten Realms book, enters Faerun bereft of any indication of how it was originally intended to be used, but showing clear evidence of its ability to break the Realms. Maybe that is to what the "sundering of the world" referred. I say again: *sigh*
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| Thomas M. Reid |
Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 15:51:07
quote:
Originally posted by seankreynolds
FYI, I still am not sure why my name is on the cover of this book. I didn't contribute anything new to it, and I don't remember writing stuff in other books that's really relevant to Anauroch. Sending mail to Chris Perkins at the moment.
It was an error. Skip Williams is actually the third author, and he's properly credited (rather than Sean) in the interior front matter. But Sean, you still rock!
Thomas |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 00:47:28
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer
Should I get this?
Yes, because I want to hear YOUR opinion on it. |
| Faraer |
Posted - 25 Nov 2007 : 23:03:02
Should I get this? |
| seankreynolds |
Posted - 25 Nov 2007 : 00:26:04
Clearly not. :p :) |
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