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| Markustay |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 03:14:49
I've completed (I hope) the long-awaited Impiltur map. My apologies to Krash for taking so long - I have a million things going on at once right now.
http://markustay.deviantart.com/art/Impiltur-67090460
AFAIK, the only non-canon locals are the town of Wye, and the trail called "Centaur's Flight", both borrowed from the Northern Journey Campaign. I also took the liberty of adding in "the Badlands" from that Campaign, as well as some swamps, because I thought the reason they gave for them were excellent (part of Ed's original vision for the region).
The funny thing is, I thought this map was going to be pretty empty, and it wound up one of the most crowded I've ever done. I took everything I could find in source and on various maps, and even made a minor 'correction' from the 1e CS - you can read what in the "Artists Comments" below the map. I had only two empty spots, and thats where I added the Compass-rose and a Coat-of-Arms.
Some of the items were a little rough to place, because the entire range used to be the Earthfast, and now the Earthspurs were added, which means I had to do a little juggling.
Please take the time to look it over and let me know if there are any errors - especially Krash, since he created several of the locations in his Dragon Magazine article. |
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| George Krashos |
Posted - 16 Dec 2008 : 00:37:50
Now all I have to do is find the time to go through it with you and fix it.
Drop me an e-mail: krashos@bigpond.com
-- George Krashos |
| Markustay |
Posted - 15 Dec 2008 : 17:12:54
Your Welcome.
This project was especially important to me, in that it gave me a certain amount of 'street cred' in the community, and I just want to thank GK for giving me the opportunity. |
| Ionik Knight |
Posted - 15 Dec 2008 : 16:31:47
I love this map, especially since I am just now starting an Impiltur campaign. Now I just need to hunt down all of your source material...
Many Thanks
Ionik Knight |
| Dalvyn |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 03:54:43
Another question about the map, that I hope you can help me answer. :)
The Herald's Road crosses Traders' Bay at "the Narrows", in-between Bluefang Water and the Old Water. I was wondering what this crossing was exactly.
Is there a large stone bridge built over the water? Or are there simply small ships or barges set on each side of the water that are used to carry both travellers and goods from one side to the other? Or is the water so shallow there that people can walk across (but then how do ships reach Bay Town)? |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 10:16:41
As Ed said on countless times at GEN-CON, "Mr Greenwood" is his father. George is fine.
The keep of Elphras is across the Reach in the Great Dale.
And yes, when I get home I'll be able to respond properly to Markustay's excellent work.
-- George Krashos
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| Markustay |
Posted - 27 Aug 2007 : 22:29:43
I am sure that when Mr. Krashos is finally able to E-mail me, there will be several changes/additions to the material therein, and I will forward your inquery to him.
Once it gets HIS stamp of approval, it can be added to the Maproom here at the keep.  |
| Dalvyn |
Posted - 27 Aug 2007 : 22:09:20
Hello, and thanks for this beautiful map! I am working on a campaign that will take place in Impiltur and your (and G. Krashos's) work will help me tremendously.
I remember reading (I forgot where though) that Elphras (one of Imbrar II's twin sons) disappeared after building a castle somewhere near the Great Barrow. Is the location of this castle or of the Great Barrow more precisely pinpoined anywhere?
Thanks for your help! |
| Markustay |
Posted - 27 Aug 2007 : 02:40:27
@Gelcur - I pretty much covered about 90% of the Western Heartlands with my Silver Marches map(s). However, I am working my way up the coast right now, so after I finish Calimshan, Tethyr, and Amn, I will continue and finish the remainder of the Sword Coast. Bear in mind I really do most of these to help others, because my own pet project lies elsewhere - mapping the rest of the world, starting with Kara-Tur.
@Coach - 1e FRCS, Cyclopedia of the Realms, pg.52, Impiltur entry -
"Lothchas the Bandit-Lord operates in the Desertspire Mountains and the Ice Gorge to the west, where the hobgoblins lived ere there strength was broken. Lothchas is a 15th level lord with a small but powerful group of followers (numbering about 50 total, but including all non-good classes and not including any less then 9th level)."
Thats pretty potent, especially considering that 3-5th level NPCs are often described as 'powerful' in that tome.
Thats the ONLY source I found him in, and I had to make a couple of 'adjustments' to make it fit 3e (and even 2e). Going by some of what I read in the northern journey campaign, Ed's originally concept for everything north of Impiltur was wastelands that lead up to the Glacier, which was located much further soouth back then. The Bloodstone lands were 'shoe-horned' in, and we lost the wastes and a good chunk of Glacier, the only small piece remaining in Impiltur being the Glacier of the White Worm. Now, considering thats the only Ice we have left in the region, it made sense to place the Ice Gorrge there, and to have the keep nearby, and "to the west" of Impiltur. By naming the foothills of the Earthspurs the "Desertspire Hills" it relates to the original reference, and we can assume that the the small mountain range seen slightly to the west of the Earthspurs are the Desertspire, which will reconcile everthing from all 3 editions (Oi Vey! I just realized I will have to reconcile yet another edition soon).
I will probably post a little homebrew lore that I created for this small range, to explain the name and it's history.
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| Gelcur |
Posted - 26 Aug 2007 : 03:59:53
Any chance the Western Heartlands is on your list of up and coming maps. =) Would love to see all the old sites restored to that area. |
| coach |
Posted - 26 Aug 2007 : 03:30:55
thanks for the map!
question: Lotchas' Tower ... what sources have that placed there? ... i have always tried to figure out where to place that
here is what i have compiled:
17. Lothchas [bandit lord] (FR9 p15) (PGFR p117) (H4 p83)
a. Small band frequents the area of the Ice Gorge (PGFR p117)
the old 2nd ed players guide to faerun mentioned him frequenting the area near the Ice Gorge ... was this the reference or did you have another?
he was first mentioned in the Throne of Bloodstone and then by RA Salvatore in FR9 The Bloodstone Lands before his mention in the PGFR, but i have been looking for other sources
thanks in advance |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 25 Aug 2007 : 14:16:59
Actually, I'm in Sweden right now and not in a position to comment. I'll send you an e-mail when I get home in another week or so.
-- George Krashos
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| Markustay |
Posted - 23 Aug 2007 : 22:14:29
Just found another 1e reference, and added Barroch's Hold to the map.
I hope Krash comes along soon, I'd really like his input on this. Of course, I realize I couldn't have released this on a worse weekend. I'm sure he's super-busy with all the recent announcements.
I also updated a couple other maps - I found a town that was missing a name on the Silver marches map (Nontar's Hold), added a couple sites to the Shining Lands (mostly from Desert of Desolation), and 'tweaked' the mountains on the Horde map (note that their are two non-canon locations on it as well now, so check the text below each the map).
Also added two new maps, but nothing special. They were just to answer a couple questions posted at the WotC boards. |
| Halidan |
Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 14:15:54
I'd like to add my thanks to the list. I've really enjoyed your map work and hope to see many more from your very talented hands. |
| LucianBarasu |
Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 19:00:49
Very very very well done map with so much detail. I love seeing maps with details of that level. Keep it up, they rock!
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| Steven Schend |
Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 16:45:29
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
So it's Amn and Tethyr next, to compliment the Erlkazar map.
Great! Looking forward to those (your 'Old Valashar' map is my desktop background). Should you need input, drop me a line. Of course, you should try to ping Mr S.E. Schend, since he deatiled quite a lot of the area.
Also be sure to ping Eric Boyd; he might actually have my unexpurgated Tethyr drafts, as I've had enough hard drive crashes to no longer have the original files of LOI. There wasn't a horrendous amount of editing, but there was usually more detail work at the county level with villages or sites that may or may not have made it onto official maps.
Looking forward to seeing a new look at Tethyr, myself....
Steven |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 18 Aug 2007 : 07:15:25
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
So it's Amn and Tethyr next, to compliment the Erlkazar map.
Great! Looking forward to those (your 'Old Valashar' map is my desktop background). Should you need input, drop me a line. Of course, you should try to ping Mr S.E. Schend, since he deatiled quite a lot of the area. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 18 Aug 2007 : 06:02:57
Thanks Brian, you just made my day.
I will be looking forward to his input.
BTW, I just posted a newer version of my Hordelands map as well, with a few adds and corrections (around Mulhorand) - it was mostly to place the locales discussed in Dragon #349.
You might want to wait though, because I've decided the area where the Golden Way cuts through the mountains needs to be moved a bit north, so there will be a 4.0 version by next week. |
| Brian R. James |
Posted - 18 Aug 2007 : 01:14:50
Cheers Mark. Wonderful map as always. I had the pleasure of seeing Krashos' reaction when I told him you had posted it. He looked like a kid in a candy store! |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 17 Aug 2007 : 01:18:28
Obviously it's a wonderful map. Great job. |
| Xysma |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 18:05:01
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
So it's Amn and Tethyr next, to compliment the Erlkazar map.
I was actually just sitting here thinking that I wish you'd do Amn, then I read this post . If I haven't said it already, all of your maps are excellent and incredibly useful. Thanks for your work. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 17:53:43
Thanks guys
@Sleyvas: I should probably wait for Krash- just about everything you've asked about are creation's of George's in his Dragon Magazine article. Ondle's Spur, along with the other two nearby villages, were from an earlier Dragon article, and are halfling communities - I placed them because they also got a mention in Krash's article. There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, of other small communities in the area, but those were the ones named in canon sources so I placed them.
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Very nice, Markus. Very nice.
I'm assuming we can eventually add this to the Candlekeep Map Room as well?
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Outstanding, as always, Markustay  Wonderful work. As the Sage says, would this be permitted to be displayed in the Map Room along with thy other masterpieces?
Of course, of course. Just wait until George looks it over so it can become 'official'.
There were a few locales I wasn't sure about, like Dargoth's caves, that he mentions are a "Week's ride southeast of Ithfell's Tower in the Earthspur Mountains". As you can see, that would be kind of impossible, so it's in the Earthfast Now (older maps show ALL of the mountains as Earthspur, which is probably how that mistake originated). Another note is that the words "The Easting Coast" really should be lower, but there was no room - everything a few miles north of the coast is considered "The Uplands", not just that 'dale' up north.
Also completely unsure about the Howling Gorge and the Citadel of Conjurors, but it seemed like a good place for the Gorge. That area's a bit crowded, but I like the idea of a Narfellin Fortress sitting at the juncture of the two ranges.
Mr. K also said he may gift us with a few more locales, so I will await on his approval before we move this map into the library. The Badlands are completely empty (I didn't want to borrow too much from Northern Journey), and the penninsula where the shield is now could really use something (If you like the shield, I can always move it down above the scale).
In the interrum, I have several others that I finished on my site that can go into the Library - A 100% official Thay map, and two maps of the Stonelands/Stormhorns that are 95% canon (I added two towns - one in the Stonelands and the other in the Tunlands). All info should be below each map.
I wanted to do a few 'historic' maps next, but Brian James reccomends I wait.
So it's Amn and Tethyr next, to compliment the Erlkazar map. |
| Jorkens |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 17:08:32
Most impressive Markus, thanks for sharing. |
| Alaundo |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 16:52:11
Well met
Outstanding, as always, Markustay Wonderful work. As the Sage says, would this be permitted to be displayed in the Map Room along with thy other masterpieces? |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 15:01:18
Nice map. Lots'o'research there. Maybe some of it was in the dragon article and I'm just forgetting. Maybe its from another resource. Mind if I pick your brain? Just wondering what some of this was, like who was Harandil and what was his march for? Where'd Dargrath's caverns come from? What's Pick'N'Axe? Anything special with Ondle's Spur, or is it just a village with a lighthouse or somesuch? Don't expect big answers, in fact, if you could just point me to the resources that'd be fun (and the interest is casual, so if its not on the tip of your tongue its cool). |
| The Sage |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 13:46:43
Very nice, Markus. Very nice.
I'm assuming we can eventually add this to the Candlekeep Map Room as well?
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| Chosen of Moradin |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 13:04:38
Impressive work, Markustay. Thanks for share it with us! |
| Ergdusch |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:12:17
Another very impressive piece of work, fellow scribe.
I love the details. So very handy for a Dm running a campaign.
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| Victor_ograygor |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 10:03:11
I like your work Markustay and if I may I would like to use your maps fore an upcoming FR Site on the net.
Keep up the good work
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 16 Aug 2007 : 03:23:31
Good stuff. It looks quite professional. |
