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| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 17:48:14
I must admit my judgement is impared as I am not feeling well this morning, but since my favorite board (this one!) has been a bit slow, I started cruising the "other" boards (you know . . . the "official one").
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again! |
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| Lysander |
Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 16:37:20
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
Often happens when you try to rebuild an old 1st or 2nd Edition multi-classed character with the new rules while trying to keep as much of the "flavor/power" of the original.
I have had to even change the spell lists of some of the "hybrids" to allow +1 caster level every two levels so the character could still be within a "reasonable" level limit.
I found the gestalt rules from Unearthed Arcana to be a very good approximation of the original multiclassed character - so much so, that I pulled one of my main objections to 3.xE (I'm still waiting on S&P's resurgence )
Though the Nameless forum is a place to let off some steam about those who refuse to acknowledge anything before WOTC took over and the creation of 3.xE  |
| warlockco |
Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 09:18:03
quote:
Originally posted by Antareana
Yes, well said oh wooly one 
sometimes I still hop to the nameless boards and sometimes you can really find some nice discussions there, or just gasp about the knowledge of D&D Veterans like Kuje, the Simbul or Shemmy
but they are good for some other two reasons: first they attract new Realmslore-lovers to candlekeep (me too - thanks Kuje  )
and second , if you think your fellow players are evil munchkins and you're really upset... you can read a bit through that "optimization" things and be happy that your buddies won't ever use 6 classes in one nonepic-character ^^
Never been to the optimization boards myself, but I have created PCs and NPCs with 4 or more classes but they all do have background/story reason for doing so.
Often happens when you try to rebuild an old 1st or 2nd Edition multi-classed character with the new rules while trying to keep as much of the "flavor/power" of the original.
I have had to even change the spell lists of some of the "hybrids" to allow +1 caster level every two levels so the character could still be within a "reasonable" level limit. |
| Kuje |
Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 22:20:34
quote:
Originally posted by Antareana
Yes, well said oh wooly one
sometimes I still hop to the nameless boards and sometimes you can really find some nice discussions there, or just gasp about the knowledge of D&D Veterans like Kuje, the Simbul or Shemmy
but they are good for some other two reasons: first they attract new Realmslore-lovers to candlekeep (me too - thanks Kuje )
and second , if you think your fellow players are evil munchkins and you're really upset... you can read a bit through that "optimization" things and be happy that your buddies won't ever use 6 classes in one nonepic-character ^^
Happy to be of some help bringing others over to these boards. :) |
| Antareana |
Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 21:30:12
Yes, well said oh wooly one
sometimes I still hop to the nameless boards and sometimes you can really find some nice discussions there, or just gasp about the knowledge of D&D Veterans like Kuje, the Simbul or Shemmy
but they are good for some other two reasons: first they attract new Realmslore-lovers to candlekeep (me too - thanks Kuje )
and second , if you think your fellow players are evil munchkins and you're really upset... you can read a bit through that "optimization" things and be happy that your buddies won't ever use 6 classes in one nonepic-character ^^ |
| Sandhrune |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 05:37:34
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
People go there because it's the official forum. It's bound to attract idiots and munchkins. So long as those who actually care about the setting manage to escape to here, I'm kind of happy that the WotC forums exist: they protect us from the annoying posters!
Well said. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 05:33:29
I do hate to defend those other forums, but there are a few good people over there... I grew to respect Kuje over there, and then checked out this place when he started quoting Ed...
There's a couple of other people from there that I'd like to see over here.
Truly, I think that the biggest problem with the WotC forums is the very fact that it's the official forum for D&D -- thus, it attracts all kinds of posters: newbies looking for info, munchkins looking for ways to destroy settings, and lovers of lore like many of us here.
I've certainly complained about the moderation over there, but it must be admitted that a site with tens of thousands of posters posting thousands of comments a day would be hard to police. That doesn't excuse some of the actions of the mods, but we really should keep a sense of perspective.
People go there because it's the official forum. It's bound to attract idiots and munchkins. So long as those who actually care about the setting manage to escape to here, I'm kind of happy that the WotC forums exist: they protect us from the annoying posters! |
| LordAnki |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 02:14:53
I don't like those forums period. I'd rather be kickin it over here with R.A. Salvatore and Ed. And a few other people. Nah but this is my new home. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 02:02:01
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA
Correct.One warning is all it took for me.I complained,and was told tough.If I didn't like it.Don't come back.All because we like having discussions about NOVELS...I haven't been to the boards that shall remain nameless since....
To me, it appears that the number of warnings you receive is relative to the time you've been registered on the WotC forums.
I've been registered since September 2001. Whereas I've known forum posters who registered late last year or early this year, and have chalked up only one warning, and then they were banned... whereas I've now received three.
Curious.
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| Setepsutekh |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 01:47:29
I much prefer this serene place full of FR enlightenment to that pit of stubborness, munchkinism, and plain stupidity. There are times when I would like to see the Lady of Pain moderate that place instead hehehe . |
| LordAnki |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 01:10:33
I remember "THOSE" forums. The forums that shall not be named. I think I also got banned because i asked "What order should I read the Drizzt novels in?" Okay I don't think I got banned but I got warned. But people started pointing me to Candlekeep and I showed up here and wow havn't left since. |
| VEDSICA |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 23:04:11
Correct.One warning is all it took for me.I complained,and was told tough.If I didn't like it.Don't come back.All because we like having discussions about NOVELS...I haven't been to the boards that shall remain nameless since.... |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 17:53:26
quote:
Originally posted by Aelf
I must be an ignoramus in addition to a newbie, but might someone, praytell, explain the 'n' word?
Regards,
Aelf, a bard of the realms
About a year and a half or two years ago, the Novel section of the FR forums on the WotC site was shut down. At that time, discussing novels was prohibited. The official rule was that you could make references to novels in response to questions, but you could not actually discuss the novel itself.
In actuality, though, pretty much any mention of a novel was enough to net a warning. One of the warnings I received before my banning was for discussing novels -- all I had done was reply to a post where someone had said they'd like to see Skip Williams write a novel.
Since they come down so hard on anyone even mentioning novels, it's become something of a joke over here. Hence the "n-word" references. |
| Aelf |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 17:19:13
I must be an ignoramus in addition to a newbie, but might someone, praytell, explain the 'n' word?
Regards,
Aelf, a bard of the realms
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 17:06:04
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Hey, I just racked up another warning... This time in the DL forum. It seems that the "n" word is becoming as much of a taboo there as it is in the FR forums  .
At this rate, I probably won't last the week...
People who read novels are obviously the biggest troublemakers over there. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 13:56:07
Hey, I just racked up another warning... This time in the DL forum. It seems that the "n" word is becoming as much of a taboo there as it is in the FR forums .
At this rate, I probably won't last the week...
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| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 11:53:45
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion
I guess this poor guy had just bought 'Heroes of Battle' and tried to implement all its content in his campaign? 
Just wait til he gets ahold of Weapons of Legacy....Silverymoon doesn't have a chance then. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 08:58:21
quote:
Originally posted by Neo2151
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
So does that mean I can Summon an Avatar of Null to level out the playing field? 
Oh come now, think more on this person's level. BIGGER! Ya gotta have his party force Talos to rain down destruction on the city until it's willing to surrender... then rain down more destruction, kill off any last survivors (including Talos himself, he might get greedy ::nods:: ), and take the rest of what's left as yours.  Oh yes, and somehow, Drizzt will be in the city and mysteriously, he'll have lived! Yay, now they make friends with Drizzt and continue with their plans... i'm sorry... i'll stop now.
Ah, I see now. Must use the Epic Spell "Summon Blood War" and bring the Blood War to Waterdeep, and watch the Fiends rip it apart. |
| Neo2151 |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 07:48:00
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco
So does that mean I can Summon an Avatar of Null to level out the playing field?
Oh come now, think more on this person's level. BIGGER! Ya gotta have his party force Talos to rain down destruction on the city until it's willing to surrender... then rain down more destruction, kill off any last survivors (including Talos himself, he might get greedy ::nods:: ), and take the rest of what's left as yours. Oh yes, and somehow, Drizzt will be in the city and mysteriously, he'll have lived! Yay, now they make friends with Drizzt and continue with their plans... i'm sorry... i'll stop now. |
| warlockco |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 03:53:22
quote:
Originally posted by khorne
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
Tiamat? 
They`ll probably throw in Hlal and Bahamut too.......
So does that mean I can Summon an Avatar of Null to level out the playing field? |
| khorne |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 20:16:48
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
Tiamat?
They`ll probably throw in Hlal and Bahamut too....... |
| Asgetrion |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 18:20:19
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
Tiamat? |
| Asgetrion |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 18:15:41
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
It interesting to me that if a remotely similar topic was brought up, the following would likely happen.
1. The PCs trying to take over Waterdeep would not likely come up with a plan that revolved around recruiting armies of monsters and gods to throw at the City of Splendors. They would likely realize that a plan would have to be long term and more subtle, especially if they wanted to rule and not just raze (one of the lucid members of the board brought up an alliance with the Shadow Thieves. The original poster ignored this particular bit of advice, since it didn't involve the full frontal).
One thing to note about your experience with this WOTC message boarder....IMHO, there's your consumer that WOTC is appealing to whenever they produce a crunch heavy product.
Not that there's anything wrong with crunch heavy consumers as long as my sister doesn't marry one.
I guess this poor guy had just bought 'Heroes of Battle' and tried to implement all its content in his campaign?
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| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 11:19:46
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
It interesting to me that if a remotely similar topic was brought up, the following would likely happen.
1. The PCs trying to take over Waterdeep would not likely come up with a plan that revolved around recruiting armies of monsters and gods to throw at the City of Splendors. They would likely realize that a plan would have to be long term and more subtle, especially if they wanted to rule and not just raze (one of the lucid members of the board brought up an alliance with the Shadow Thieves. The original poster ignored this particular bit of advice, since it didn't involve the full frontal).
One thing to note about your experience with this WOTC message boarder....IMHO, there's your consumer that WOTC is appealing to whenever they produce a crunch heavy product.
Not that there's anything wrong with crunch heavy consumers as long as my sister doesn't marry one. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 03:27:17
It interesting to me that if a remotely similar topic was brought up, the following would likely happen.
1. The PCs trying to take over Waterdeep would not likely come up with a plan that revolved around recruiting armies of monsters and gods to throw at the City of Splendors. They would likely realize that a plan would have to be long term and more subtle, especially if they wanted to rule and not just raze (one of the lucid members of the board brought up an alliance with the Shadow Thieves. The original poster ignored this particular bit of advice, since it didn't involve the full frontal).
2. Even if they had their hearts set on taking over the city, they would likely want to hear what their fellow scribes had to say about how the city is likely to be defended, and realize that such examples would be in keeping with the setting, not to "ruin their fun."
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| Kuje |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 03:19:19
quote:
Originally posted by The SageHehe... I just received my forth warning yesterday evening. That'll teach me to get involved in a discussion that involves criticising RAS apparently recent lack of creativity...  .
I don't think I'll last the month somehow... .
HAHAHA. That's funny. :)
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| Kuje |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 03:17:06
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Isn't the use of the "n-word" enough to do the trick?
I don't bring that taboo word up any more. :) |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 02:46:41
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
Well
I'm still floating around those boards but it's mostly to see how long it takes for them to ban me. :) I've had 4 or 5 threats of that nature but they've yet to do anything. :)
Isn't the use of the "n-word" enough to do the trick? |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 02:44:36
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I must admit my judgement is impared as I am not feeling well this morning, but since my favorite board (this one!) has been a bit slow, I started cruising the "other" boards (you know . . . the "official one").
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
I'm sure right now he's developing plans for the krakens' attack that involves each of them wielding a moonblade with a scimitar wielding dark elf by their side. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 02:28:42
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
Well
I'm still floating around those boards but it's mostly to see how long it takes for them to ban me. :) I've had 4 or 5 threats of that nature but they've yet to do anything. :)
Hehe... I just received my forth warning yesterday evening. That'll teach me to get involved in a discussion that involves criticising RAS apparently recent lack of creativity... .
I don't think I'll last the month somehow... .
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| DDH_101 |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 01:23:33
All I gotta say: Thank Oghma and Alaundo for Candlekeep! Lol. |
