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| Fellfire |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 10:43:08
I know the elven pantheon got few lesser deities in Dragon mag. Did the dwarves ever get a similar treatment? Specifically, I wonder about a dwarven god of cold, ice, and snow. It seems thematically appropriate, if only to appease him. I looked into the arctic dwarves, but they don't seem to worship the Mordinsamman at all. |
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| sleyvas |
Posted - 13 Mar 2026 : 22:23:23
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Originally posted by Asura7299
As far as I can tell this is a complete list of dwarven gods
* Moradin - Divine Patriarch, God of Dwarves, Mining, Smithcraft, Stonework, Guardians
* Abbathor - God of Greed, Trade, Deceit
* Berronar Truesilver - Divine Matriarch, Goddess of Dwarves, Hearth, Home, Families
* Cador- God of Vengance
* Clangeddin Silverbeard - God of War and Valor
* Dennari- Goddess of the Earth, liberation, suffering
* Dugmaren Brightmantle - God Scholarship, Invention and Discovery
* Dumathoin - God of Mining, Gems, The Underground
* Muamman Duathal- God of Storms, Travel
* Vergadain - God of Trade, Merchants, Wealth, Luck
* Hanseath - God of War, Brewing, Drinking
* Mya - Goddess of Clan, Family, Wisdom
* Roknar - God of Avarice, Spite, Wealth
* Tharmekhul - God of Fire, Smithcraft
* Thautam - God of Magic, Darkness
* Valkauna - Goddess of Oaths, Birth, Death
* Gendwar Argrim - God of Fatalism, Obsession
* Ulaa - Goddess of Hills, Mountains, Gemstones
* Gorm Gulthyn - God of Guardians, Defense, Vigilance, Duty
* Haela Brightaxe - Goddess of War, Bloodlust
* Marthammor Duin - God of Adventurers, Exploration, Travel
* Sharindlar - Goddess of Love, Fertility, Dance, The Moon
* Thard Harr - Patron God of Wild Dwarves, God of Jungles, Nature, Hunting
* Laduguer - Patron God of Duergar, God of Toil, Spite, Magic, Artifice
* Deep Duerra - Goddess of War, Psionics, Duergar Supremacy
* Diinkarazan - God of Madness, Vengeance
* Diirinka - Patron God of Derro, God of Cruelty, Magic, Ambition, Treachery
I'd be interested in sources of some of these. I'd also wonder how many might not be dwarven gods but not necessarily part of the "faerunian" pantheon. I'd imagine dwarves, like humans may have pantheons that don't all report up to the same "head of that dwarven family". As much as I like the idea of saying that all dwarves were created by Moradin, there's a niggling part of me that believes that some dwarves were made by other gods (i.e. a copy or reshaping). After all, lets face it, in a world of magic.... people can change. We can't even say "all orcs came from Gruumsh" and "all ogres came from Vaprak the Destroyer" because canonically humans in Maztica were converted into orc, ogres, and I believe trolls too by Zaltec.
Now, I wouldn't necessarily place such within Faerun, as I feel you'd be shoehorning them in, but if we expanded into other continents that haven't been explored.... it could be interesting to find a dwarven pantheon with similar but different outlooks, cultures, etc... After all, Thard Harr's wild dwarves are pretty much nothing like standard dwarves.... and if the korobokuru of Kara-tur ARE dwarven relations, they are definitely different. |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 05 Mar 2026 : 12:27:58
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Originally posted by Ayrik
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dazzlerdal
Im of the opinion that the elves once had a variety of regional pantheons much like humans. But around -10000 DR these all coalesced into the elven pantheon which was a global pantheon.
And yet elven myths explicitly describe their pantheon (the Seldarine, led by Corellon Larethian) being the perfect prototypes who created the elven races in their images.
Yeth, but it's a myth. 
What we know about the elves and their gods:
- Most elves descend from a single bunch of emigrants who gated themselves in.
- There were 2 (two) known Elven pantheons active on Faerun: Seldarine and Yuir. The Yuir pantheon was taken over and subsumed. The star elves from Yuir departed, and not to Evermeet, but to their own demiplane. Hmm.
- Aerdrie Faenya is a big outlier. She hangs out with Syranita at least as much as with the Seldarine (Planescape described her realm as wandering between the two). The Avariel generally keep to themselves and worship her in a way of tribal henotheism rather than as a part of the Seldarine.
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The dwarves, to my mind, appear as consistent a race as the elves when measured across the Realms - or across different worlds, planes, and settings. They all share common language, runes, cultures, technologies, indeed they all claim to have a common lineage which traces back to Moradin.
And there's much less doubt that their pantheon was assembled from deities formerly venerated separately in the usual tribal henotheistic fashion, most likely in order to likewise bring the formerly warring clans (Spawn Wars etc) together. With at least one exception who refused to cooperate. |
| Asura7299 |
Posted - 04 Mar 2026 : 13:17:28
In reply to TomCosta
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Good list. Some are Greyhawk exclusive IMO and I would argue Mya is too close to Berronar not to be her and same with Roknar and Abbathor. I also think Diinkarazan and Cador are probably the same, like Marthamor and Muamman are in the Realms.
All the gods in the list besides cador dennari Gendwar Argrim and the two derro gods apeared as separate deities in mordenkainen’s tome of foes so I simply followed suit. Though going by the presence of forgotten realms and Greyhawk deities in both the elven and dwarven pantheons listed in that book it seams they were going for an all inclusive and streamlined racial pantheon for both which could imply that they are all potentially canon to the realms. As for the gods being to similar to one another they seamed to have tried to distinguish them a little with their portfolios but I can’t tell for sure as most didn’t get a proper write up in MTOF though the problem seams easy enough to fix. You could focuse more on Roknar being a god of lies and Mya could be more focused on birth and child care than Berronar so on so forth. As for Diinkarazan and cador well Diinkarazan is a derro god so there’s not much overlap since most dwarves wouldn’t worship him. |
| Lord Null |
Posted - 04 Mar 2026 : 05:10:10
maybe the lordofbones can do WRITE-UP FOR Hanseath,Tharmekhul and Thautam, Like whats he is doing for the other gods |
| deserk |
Posted - 03 Mar 2026 : 20:31:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Ed has confirmed Hanseath is in the Realms.
Tharmekhul was also referenced as being worshipped by the now defunct Clan Melairkyn in Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage.
I would argue that most of those listed by Asura7299 probably exist in the Realms. Excepting perhaps those that seem overly similar with already established Faerunian gods. Based on his tweets, Ed does give off the impression of being fairly welcoming of incorporating lore from D&D books and magazine articles that are not specific to the Realms. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 03 Mar 2026 : 17:13:50
I was actually coming up with a homebrew Dwarven demigod of fire, namely one associated with the forge who acts as a servant of Moradin. His name is Zarsturz and was originally an Azer who entered Dwarfhome to escape the Efreeti of the Elemental Plane of Fire and volunteered to help the Soulforger manage his forge. Over time, he proved himself invaluable and was awarded a spark of divinity for his efforts. In the time of the current continuity of the Realms, he would develop a small following among Clan Azerkin as well as a few token shrines in major temples of Moradin. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 03 Mar 2026 : 04:17:04
Ed has confirmed Hanseath is in the Realms. |
| TomCosta |
Posted - 02 Mar 2026 : 14:42:39
Good list. Some are Greyhawk exclusive IMO and I would argue Mya is too close to Berronar not to be her and same with Roknar and Abbathor. I also think Diinkarazan and Cador are probably the same, like Marthamor and Muamman are in the Realms.
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| Asura7299 |
Posted - 02 Mar 2026 : 06:18:17
As far as I can tell this is a complete list of dwarven gods
* Moradin - Divine Patriarch, God of Dwarves, Mining, Smithcraft, Stonework, Guardians
* Abbathor - God of Greed, Trade, Deceit
* Berronar Truesilver - Divine Matriarch, Goddess of Dwarves, Hearth, Home, Families
* Cador- God of Vengance
* Clangeddin Silverbeard - God of War and Valor
* Dennari- Goddess of the Earth, liberation, suffering
* Dugmaren Brightmantle - God Scholarship, Invention and Discovery
* Dumathoin - God of Mining, Gems, The Underground
* Muamman Duathal- God of Storms, Travel
* Vergadain - God of Trade, Merchants, Wealth, Luck
* Hanseath - God of War, Brewing, Drinking
* Mya - Goddess of Clan, Family, Wisdom
* Roknar - God of Avarice, Spite, Wealth
* Tharmekhul - God of Fire, Smithcraft
* Thautam - God of Magic, Darkness
* Valkauna - Goddess of Oaths, Birth, Death
* Gendwar Argrim - God of Fatalism, Obsession
* Ulaa - Goddess of Hills, Mountains, Gemstones
* Gorm Gulthyn - God of Guardians, Defense, Vigilance, Duty
* Haela Brightaxe - Goddess of War, Bloodlust
* Marthammor Duin - God of Adventurers, Exploration, Travel
* Sharindlar - Goddess of Love, Fertility, Dance, The Moon
* Thard Harr - Patron God of Wild Dwarves, God of Jungles, Nature, Hunting
* Laduguer - Patron God of Duergar, God of Toil, Spite, Magic, Artifice
* Deep Duerra - Goddess of War, Psionics, Duergar Supremacy
* Diinkarazan - God of Madness, Vengeance
* Diirinka - Patron God of Derro, God of Cruelty, Magic, Ambition, Treachery |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 06 Sep 2016 : 15:44:56
On the arctic dwarves, I wouldn't leave them totally out of the divine realm. I'd have them honoring/placating spirits much like spirit shamans. They probably figure all deities are nothing more than powerful spirits (which kind of is true). |
| AuldDragon |
Posted - 04 Sep 2016 : 23:09:31
The arctic dwarves (Innugaakalikurit) don't worship any deities. Their entry in Demihumans of the Realms states:
Major Deities: None. Arctic dwarves bitterly reject the worship of all deities.
Jeff |
| The Masked Mage |
Posted - 04 Sep 2016 : 04:20:24
Go through Dragon Magazine - there are several in various issues... sorry but I don't have enough time to look through for them :P |
| moonbeast |
Posted - 02 Sep 2016 : 16:17:32
If a canonical Frost Dwarf deity cannot be found…. it wouldn't be a stretch to simply allocate them some demigod, some ancient ancestral hero, for local (regional) worship.
Coldain Frostbeard, Lord of the North. Dwarven demigod. Patron deity of the frost dwarves. (hehe…. so I stole that name from Everquest)
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| Fellfire |
Posted - 29 Aug 2016 : 01:41:57
Taking it waay back, AD. Nice find. |
| AuldDragon |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 23:46:08
There was a minor dwarven deity mentioned briefly in the Dungeon #2 adventure Caermor by Nigel Findley, named Cador. He's an evil deity of revenge, even to undeath. That's the only dwarven deity I can think of that isn't from one of the main sources. I'll be writing him up eventually for my Monster Mythology project.
Jeff |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 17:53:13
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dazzlerdal
Im of the opinion that the elves once had a variety of regional pantheons much like humans. But around -10000 DR these all coalesced into the elven pantheon which was a global pantheon.
And yet elven myths explicitly describe their pantheon (the Seldarine, led by Corellon Larethian) being the perfect prototypes who created the elven races in their images.
The dwarves, to my mind, appear as consistent a race as the elves when measured across the Realms - or across different worlds, planes, and settings. They all share common language, runes, cultures, technologies, indeed they all claim to have a common lineage which traces back to Moradin.
I'm not sure if recent (post-4E) Dragon issues have covered dwarven deities yet, but earlier (pre-4E) issues certainly did in great detail. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 17:40:54
"Races of Stone" provides some alternative dwarven deities.
-- George Krashos |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 16:15:20
The only fitting entry in the Dragondex is "The Gods of the Dwarves" by Roger E. Moore in #58, but character references are all of the now-common pantheon.
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| BadCatMan |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 13:24:34
Races of Stone offers some more dwarf gods, for core 3.5 edition. No cold-related ones though.
Using Norse gods for dwarves would be thematically appropriate.
There is one "small god" in the Vast & Earthfast area: Isakkhu.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Isakkhu
Isakkhu's more of a barbarian mountain god (and possibly Grumbar), but he's basically a blank slate for development |
| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 12:34:43
Im of the opinion that the elves once had a variety of regional pantheons much like humans. But around -10000 DR these all coalesced into the elven pantheon which was a global pantheon.
It makes sense that all the humanoid races have a similar religious history of regional pantheons merging into global pantheons.
Dwarves may be the same or not because all gold and shield dwarves originate from a single place (the great rift) and so the same religions moved with their people across faerun.
However Laduguer was once a dwarven deity but his worship was cast out with the loss of a kingdom of shanatar to the illithids.
At some point in dwarven history the twins diirinka and diinkkazaran were cast out (an event that also happened during shanatars fall).
But there is no evidence that these were even worshipped by the dwarves of the great rift. It may be that their worship was solely within shanatar.
I would be happy to use small dwarven religions in the earthfasts or the vast that no other dwarves worshipped. Local heroes worshipped as gods that no one worships any longer (except maybe a few in vaasa). |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 28 Aug 2016 : 10:53:50
I checked Frostburn as well. No dwarf deities there. |
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