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Fellfire
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  10:43:08  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I know the elven pantheon got few lesser deities in Dragon mag. Did the dwarves ever get a similar treatment? Specifically, I wonder about a dwarven god of cold, ice, and snow. It seems thematically appropriate, if only to appease him. I looked into the arctic dwarves, but they don't seem to worship the Mordinsamman at all.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  10:53:50  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I checked Frostburn as well. No dwarf deities there.

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  12:34:43  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Im of the opinion that the elves once had a variety of regional pantheons much like humans. But around -10000 DR these all coalesced into the elven pantheon which was a global pantheon.

It makes sense that all the humanoid races have a similar religious history of regional pantheons merging into global pantheons.

Dwarves may be the same or not because all gold and shield dwarves originate from a single place (the great rift) and so the same religions moved with their people across faerun.

However Laduguer was once a dwarven deity but his worship was cast out with the loss of a kingdom of shanatar to the illithids.

At some point in dwarven history the twins diirinka and diinkkazaran were cast out (an event that also happened during shanatars fall).

But there is no evidence that these were even worshipped by the dwarves of the great rift. It may be that their worship was solely within shanatar.

I would be happy to use small dwarven religions in the earthfasts or the vast that no other dwarves worshipped. Local heroes worshipped as gods that no one worships any longer (except maybe a few in vaasa).

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BadCatMan
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  13:24:34  Show Profile Send BadCatMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Races of Stone offers some more dwarf gods, for core 3.5 edition. No cold-related ones though.

Using Norse gods for dwarves would be thematically appropriate.

There is one "small god" in the Vast & Earthfast area: Isakkhu.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Isakkhu
Isakkhu's more of a barbarian mountain god (and possibly Grumbar), but he's basically a blank slate for development

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TBeholder
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  16:15:20  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The only fitting entry in the Dragondex is "The Gods of the Dwarves" by Roger E. Moore in #58, but character references are all of the now-common pantheon.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  17:40:54  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Races of Stone" provides some alternative dwarven deities.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  17:53:13  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
dazzlerdal

Im of the opinion that the elves once had a variety of regional pantheons much like humans. But around -10000 DR these all coalesced into the elven pantheon which was a global pantheon.

And yet elven myths explicitly describe their pantheon (the Seldarine, led by Corellon Larethian) being the perfect prototypes who created the elven races in their images.

The dwarves, to my mind, appear as consistent a race as the elves when measured across the Realms - or across different worlds, planes, and settings. They all share common language, runes, cultures, technologies, indeed they all claim to have a common lineage which traces back to Moradin.

I'm not sure if recent (post-4E) Dragon issues have covered dwarven deities yet, but earlier (pre-4E) issues certainly did in great detail.

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AuldDragon
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Posted - 28 Aug 2016 :  23:46:08  Show Profile  Visit AuldDragon's Homepage Send AuldDragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There was a minor dwarven deity mentioned briefly in the Dungeon #2 adventure Caermor by Nigel Findley, named Cador. He's an evil deity of revenge, even to undeath. That's the only dwarven deity I can think of that isn't from one of the main sources. I'll be writing him up eventually for my Monster Mythology project.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 29 Aug 2016 :  01:41:57  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Taking it waay back, AD. Nice find.

Misanthorpe

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"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

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moonbeast
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Posted - 02 Sep 2016 :  16:17:32  Show Profile Send moonbeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If a canonical Frost Dwarf deity cannot be found…. it wouldn't be a stretch to simply allocate them some demigod, some ancient ancestral hero, for local (regional) worship.

Coldain Frostbeard, Lord of the North. Dwarven demigod. Patron deity of the frost dwarves. (hehe…. so I stole that name from Everquest)



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The Masked Mage
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Go through Dragon Magazine - there are several in various issues... sorry but I don't have enough time to look through for them :P
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 04 Sep 2016 :  23:09:31  Show Profile  Visit AuldDragon's Homepage Send AuldDragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The arctic dwarves (Innugaakalikurit) don't worship any deities. Their entry in Demihumans of the Realms states:
Major Deities: None. Arctic dwarves bitterly reject the worship of all deities.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 06 Sep 2016 :  15:44:56  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On the arctic dwarves, I wouldn't leave them totally out of the divine realm. I'd have them honoring/placating spirits much like spirit shamans. They probably figure all deities are nothing more than powerful spirits (which kind of is true).

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