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| silverwolfer |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 07:23:52
As far as impact on the realms, and published story, how big was gargauth? |
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| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 05 Dec 2013 : 23:03:06
I'm more inclined to think that Gargauth thinks he and Asmodeus have an arrangement, when in fact he's just another of Asmodeus' pawns.
Of course, I may be biased. |
| The Arcanamach |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 23:50:58
Methinks that Gargauth and Asmodeaus have a secret arrangement but I have no proof of that. |
| Gyor |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 22:58:31
He's dangerous enough that Asmodeaus doesn't dare send any devils against him, not even Archdevils, any devil he kills he absorbs thier powers. |
| MrHedgehog |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 22:26:09
He seems TOO evil to have a wide following. Other evil deities have many potential non evil followers/worshipers. Even most evil aligned people would see him as evil... a follower of Talos might think of Talos as a force of nature and not consider himself/his god as bad. But a god of corruption, betrayal, etc.? I have trouble imagining his faith spreading very far. No part of his portfolio necessitates worship from lay worshipers like Talona, Auril or Umberlee.
His followers make good villains in a game, though. In my mind I ciew 4e Asmodeus as Gargauth because I don't like Asmodeus being made into a deity. I can't imagine many other than tieflings worshiping him in large numbers.
Gargauth is described as an entity only the foolish and insane would worship. He harms and betrays his worshipers. In Bezantur his temple has rituals that involve the death of followers. By his very nature he an enemy of all. |
| MrHedgehog |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 22:25:03
He seems TOO evil to have a wide following. Other evil deities have many potential non evil followers/worshipers. Even most evil aligned people would see him as evil... a follower of Talos might think of Talos as a force of nature and not consider himself/his god as bad. But a god of corruption, betrayal, etc.? I have trouble imagining his faith spreading very far. No part of his portfolio necessitates worship from lay worshipers like Talona, Auril or Umberlee.
His followers make good villains in a game, though. In my mind I ciew 4e Asmodeus as Gargauth because I don't like Asmodeus being made into a deity. I can't imagine many other than tieflings worshiping him in large numbers.
Gargauth is described as an entity only the foolish and insane would worship. He harms and betrays his worshipers. In Bezantur his temple has rituals that involve the death of followers. By his very nature he an enemy of all. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 19:18:21
Very small. As others mentioned, his main impact was with the Knights of the Shield and the fall of Peleveria. He was more of the type to leak information to another organization to get them to do his dirty work for him. |
| The Arcanamach |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 19:18:08
As far as we know at this time, his impact has been relatively minimal (unless the activities of the Knights of the Shield are more involved/complex than we know). However, he is extremely secretive and may be involved in pretty much anything a DM wants...but that's not canon/official. He's an interesting entity that deserves more detailed lore. |
| Chosen of Asmodeus |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 13:04:52
I've never considered him more than a foot note, myself. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 12:43:02
In 2e he is a Demipower, his story significantly linked to the Cult of the Dragon, as shown in the CoTD sourcebook and in Powers & Pantheons. |
| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 07:47:42
Almost none at all.
He is in charge of an organisation called the Knights of the Shield, but his link to that was destroyed in 4ed as far as i know.
He is mentioned in very few places and we have nothing concrete on his actions but he was meant to be a secret mover and shaker and big baddy i believe (his goal was to pull Toril into Baator after all).
So his official impact was negligable but if ever you are looking for a mastermind for an evil plot then as long as its really nasty and devious, he is your man (or baatezu if you prefer). |
| Alruane |
Posted - 04 Dec 2013 : 07:46:38
"He almost achieved lesser god status when his cult blossomed during the Harpstar Wars but the concerted effort of Bane, Bhaal, Loviatar and Talona crushed his followers to prevent such an occurrence."
That should give you an idea. |
