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| Mystral |
Posted - 01 Jan 2004 : 11:22:59
I'm creating a chosen but I don't know what kind of specialities i can give so help me Character is Drd(19) of Eldath/Ranger(7) of Mielikki!!!you can e mail mystral_eru@hotmail.com |
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| Wood Elf Ranger |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 21:29:53
Sounds like fun 
I am off to find the aforementioned scroll
Shh keep this on the down-low my friend, but I've been tossing around the idea of running a campaign where the players eventually become Chosen of their respective deities. After completing many specific faith related quests and passing certain tests and most likely becoming epic characters along the way... Of course this wont happen for a while either, at least until after I've played a few campaigns and have gotten an idea of what it might be like to DM one. |
| Artalis |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 20:28:37
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
Very interesting, I like your idea Artalis. I'm curious are your Chosen NPC's or are they your PC's? Would one of your players ever get the chance to become a Chosen?
Anyone is eligable but there has to be an extremely good reason for it. Hanali has very long reaching plans in my campaign and the events that are taking place now are the results of many centuries of careful work on the part of her agents.
Hanali actually took a page from Mystra's book though in Nighteye's case. There's a thread in here somewhere called "A tale of Loss..." that explains the chain of events but I'm too lazy to hunt it down and link it.  |
| Wood Elf Ranger |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 20:11:37
Very interesting, I like your idea Artalis. I'm curious are your Chosen NPC's or are they your PC's? Would one of your players ever get the chance to become a Chosen? |
| Artalis |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 20:03:10
In the campaign I run there is a single Chosen for each deity.
One refers to the faithful of a diety by the phrase "a chosen of" or "among the chosen" because they were called to serve that god/goddess. But each diety only has one "Chosen" and it's a whole other thing altogether.
For instance Nighteyes is The Chosen of Hanali Celanil in my campaign. There's a bit of nepotism going on there however...
Several of the characters in the campaign are AMONG the chosen however, being priestesses of that faith.
And Nighteyes isn't even a priest. |
| Wood Elf Ranger |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 19:49:18
Thank you Wooly I was dreading slludging through topics to find this one. Hmm some interesting ideas but I think I would rather make up my own with my own imagination  Perhaps using some of theirs for ideas.
I do agree with you and everyone else though there should not be any Chosen as powerful or as numerous as Mystras.  |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 19:38:10
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
I've never had a WOTC Forum account and I don't plan on making one But I suppose I could wander over there for a moment and most likely get hopelessly lost looking for aforementioned scroll 
Here's the link to that thread:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176507
I can't attest to the quality of any of the Chosen on that thread. Even when I was active over there, I avoided that thread because of my aforementioned opinions on Chosen of other deities. |
| Wood Elf Ranger |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 19:30:58
I've never had a WOTC Forum account and I don't plan on making one But I suppose I could wander over there for a moment and most likely get hopelessly lost looking for aforementioned scroll |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 19:24:57
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Originally posted by Sarta
I guess I'm a traditionalist. When I run games, Mystra has chosen and no other deities do. Occasionally mortals are favored by their gods and given advantages, but nothing which truly equates with Mystra's chosen.
Sarta
I agree with this sentiment. After reading about the intent of the Chosen of Mystra, I just can't see other deities having champions that are comparable. I can envision other deities having Champions -- someone who's just a bit more than mortal, but not on the same scale as a Chosen of Mystra.
Wood Elf Ranger, as much as I hate to refer someone back to there, I do recall a thread on the WotC forums that existed for people to make their own Chosen of other deities. Though I've not visited the boards since I was chased away, I'd imagine that that thread is still active. |
| Wood Elf Ranger |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 17:33:27
Can we just scratch Mystras Chosen for a moment? They seem a bit too powerful to me. What I'm wanting are Chosen for lesser deities. To me I'm thinking that most likely there could be only one. But from the Everis Cale books it seems like Mask has 5. From Lord of Darkness there is a template for a Chosen of Bane, which it says there can only be one at a time. Now lets say I want to make a Chosen template for a different deity could I just use the Chosen of Bane template and change it to reflect that deities portfolio? |
| Chyron |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 17:09:55
Not to disagree with you Sarta, for I also consider myself a bit of a traditionalist…But for me ever since AO was brought into the cosmic picture I just can’t foresee Mystra being allowed to grant such powers. AO was supposed to have a balance among the deities and to me Mystra sways that balance to the good side (particularly the chaotic good side as that is the disposition of many of her chosen). IF she is to be the most powerful of the deities, then I would think she should be true neutral favoring no sides and creating chosen among mages of all dispositions so long as they protect the weave.
Of course this is not how things are in the realms as we know them. As a believer in balance myself I don’t think all deities should have chosen equal to Mystra’s. But I would argue that at least Shar should have a handful to counter balance Mystra’s chosen. I would additionally argue that they would have a form of Shadowfire akin to Silverfire.
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| Sarta |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 08:33:06
I guess I'm a traditionalist. When I run games, Mystra has chosen and no other deities do. Occasionally mortals are favored by their gods and given advantages, but nothing which truly equates with Mystra's chosen.
Sarta |
| Wood Elf Ranger |
Posted - 08 May 2004 : 06:33:02
To get this scroll back on topic... I am curious about this subject, how would someone go about creating a template for a Chosen of any deity? Would greater deities be able to give their Chosen more powers and abilities? |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 08 Jan 2004 : 00:13:27
ahh, of course sage, alaundo has talk to me several times lately (literally) regarding the off topicness of the scribes, indeed its quite common Shadowlord chuckles to himself.... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Jan 2004 : 14:18:07
::The Sage taps Shadowlord on the shoulder, capturing his attention...::
"Actually I was more concerned with the wise Alaundo, and his now famous magical-staff showing up, catching some of his scribes doing something other than their regular duties..."
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| Shadowlord |
Posted - 06 Jan 2004 : 21:10:14
My sincerest appologies Sage. Say, have you checked your magic shop lately? I left a request for Brax. Not that you have to, but your items are so much better than mine! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 06 Jan 2004 : 12:11:03
I do however know of an event, that is very highly probable...at least here in Candlekeep.
The occurence of it's scribes to travel way off topic... 
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| Shadowlord |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 14:04:03
In this case, highly improbable, but still has like a .01% chance, lol. |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 05:28:41
Nothing's impossible. Improbable, unlikely but Never impossible.
The wisdom of Luigi.... |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 03:39:18
Well, when it comes to the 'Uncertainty Principle'...I guess anything is possible...
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| The Cardinal |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 03:30:02
So.... There's still a chance then? Huzzah! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 03:12:07
Hah!!!...I don't think that day will ever come Cardinal...it is a near-physical impossibility. You'd have more of a chance witnessing the quantum mechanical phenomena of 'quantum-tunneling' occuring...
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| The Cardinal |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:56:19
All is forgiven!
And we shall be as allies once more...... Simply say : "Cardinal, You are right, and I, The Sage, was wrong"... Well ok.. Maybe not now or in the near future but one day.. Until then...
Huzzah! |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:47:36
Sorry Cardinal . I just assumed that the interpretation I was thinking was what everyone else would normally assume to be the case as well...
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| Shadowlord |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:41:08
i dont believe so, no i dont think it is, my lolthite friend |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 02:21:57
Well YOU should have said so in the FIRST place... Most everyone know's I'm unstable as it is... Explain your meanings first, then we be allies in a common goal... then everything hunky-dory.... ... Is that even a word? |
| The Sage |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:58:49
So I was correct...at least partially . The matter of contention which Faraer was just talking about was what I was thinking at the time I answered your post Cardinal. Oh well, it sounds as though it all comes down to a matter of interpretation anyway.
What do you have to say now Cardinal...
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| The Cardinal |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:40:50
actually.... that does sound familiar.... I'm not sure from where though... that there are 'THE Chosen' and then the 'Chosen'.. If that makes a whit of sense... which I doubt seeing as I'm trying to say it.. and we all know how often I make sense... |
| Faraer |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 01:22:11
In "If You Need Help -- Ask the Drow!" and The Seven Sisters, all the priests of the Promenade of Eilistraee are said to be called the Chosen of Eilistraee; Qilué Veladorn in some sense 'the Chosen of the Chosen' but no powerful granted powers are mentioned. Remember, in Ed's Realms there are only Chosen (in the sense used in this thread) of Mystra, the other 'Chosen' in the official Realms were added by other authors misunderstanding or disregarding the purpose of Mystra's Chosen (a check on her power and a precaution against her destruction).
Recent references to Qilué as 'Chosen of Eilistraee' may be an abbreviated way of describing the situation above, a retcon making her a CoE in the CoM sense, or a careless error.
Incidentally, Realmslore has plenty of instances of people, even priests, with two patron gods. |
| Shadowlord |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 22:34:25
As much as I hate to disagree with a master of realmslore, deimos is correct. Sorry Sage. |
| The Cardinal |
Posted - 03 Jan 2004 : 19:15:16
*slaps The Sage in the face with an empty leather glove*
Knave, thou dares to question my facts?! Have at thee!
Anyways, While I WOULD like to AGREE with you sage, I find in print that I cannot to. She is Also a Chosen of Ellistree (according to page 247 of the FRCS (under the side bar of 'Chosen of Mystra'... first paragraph). Let that be a lesson to you commoner. |
