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Dennis Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 06:01:02
Ed said he could not disclose which realm would be featured in the next "E.G. Presents..." That is, if there will really be another one.

So why won't we make some suggestions?

Which realm do you think should be explored more in this series?
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Dennis Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 21:22:54

I've been thinking, instead of having only one nation, why not six or more? For the realm to be properly highlighted and given justice, I say each book featuring one realm shall be as thick as Ed and Elaine's City of Splendors. Wouldn't that be great?
The Red Walker Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 19:43:16
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Yes, you did. Wasn't MD covered in The Last Mythal?



But that was well over 100 years ago....
Alisttair Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 12:03:04
Heck, I'll throw it out there. Even MORE Waterdeep would not be a waste .
Dennis Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 00:31:35
Yes, you did. Wasn't MD covered in The Last Mythal?
althen artren Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 00:25:05
Did I mention Myth Drannor? If I did, I'll mention it again. :)
The Sage Posted - 19 Jan 2011 : 00:23:14
Okay, we really don't need to start pitching who is more powerful than who. Let's get back to the discussion at hand, eh?
Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 22:22:12
I don't really care who's more powerful. I just want to read more about them in the novels. If not both, at least either.
Erdrick Stormedge Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 21:50:46
Nae. Shadow 'twas far more powerful than Karsus. After Shadow mastered heavy magick, he gave the results if his research to Karsus, for sagely review; with the caveat that the eldritch secrets that Lord Shadow had uncovered were too dangerous to use. Of course Karsus, in his folly, t'would ignore the Most High's warning...


quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

Doesn't matter if Telamont was an apprentice of Karsus or not. Karsus was so far above and beyond such a puny manling as Telamont and the other Tanthuls, princes of Shade et al.

Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 20:56:12
Telamont is far from puny. Though if he'd be compared to Karsus, that might be the case.
Alisttair Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 18:21:33
Doesn't matter if Telamont was an apprentice of Karsus or not. Karsus was so far above and beyond such a puny manling as Telamont and the other Tanthuls, princes of Shade et al.
Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 18:12:28
And by the way, he was called Shadow simply because he's the only then who used shadow-magic.
Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 18:09:09
No, it didn't mention his real name. But the Lords of Darkness states that Telamont was known thousands of years ago as Lord Shadow. No one donned that title except him during Karsus's time. Larloch had a title with a 'Shadow' in it---Shadow King, but I think that was already after the Fall.
Elfinblade Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 17:59:37
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Maybe apprentice is not the most appropriate term, but Telamont, who was then known as Shadow, did study in Karsus' academy, and Karsus supported his research on the Demiplane of Shadow. Here's a bit of info from page 10 of Netheril: Empire of Magic:

A student in Karsus's academy for magical study, Shadow published
a highly criticized work on the planes. His work earned him
the enmity of the establishment, and he was sent into exile. All
study of demiplanes and quasiplanes was banned in several cities.
In Karsus, though, Shadow was asked to stay and continue his
studies; Karsus felt Shadow was onto something important.
Shadow invited other "underground" researchers to help him in his
investigation, and Karsus financed the whole operation. Eleven
years later, with permission from Karsus himself, Shadow published
another work, this time on the Demiplane of Shadow, entitled
Shadows: The Palpable Cohesion of Formless Corporeality.




Ah excellent! That is one of the sourcebooks i'm missing. Does it say if this Shadow character in fact were Telamont? Wonder why he was called Shadow anyway. They were all regular humans back then.
Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 17:52:21
Maybe apprentice is not the most appropriate term, but Telamont, who was then known as Shadow, did study in Karsus' academy, and Karsus supported his research on the Demiplane of Shadow. Here's a bit of info from page 10 of Netheril: Empire of Magic:

A student in Karsus's academy for magical study, Shadow published
a highly criticized work on the planes. His work earned him
the enmity of the establishment, and he was sent into exile. All
study of demiplanes and quasiplanes was banned in several cities.
In Karsus, though, Shadow was asked to stay and continue his
studies; Karsus felt Shadow was onto something important.
Shadow invited other "underground" researchers to help him in his
investigation, and Karsus financed the whole operation. Eleven
years later, with permission from Karsus himself, Shadow published
another work, this time on the Demiplane of Shadow, entitled
Shadows: The Palpable Cohesion of Formless Corporeality.
Elfinblade Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 17:31:04
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

I'm fine with either. I'm interested in Karsus's "assessment" of Telamont, now that the Most High has grown much powerful since his apprenticeship to Karsus, and now that he claims to be ruler of the New Netheril.



Telamont was an apprentice to Karsus? I do not recall reading that in my books. Although i loathe most of the whole return of the archwizards deal, i do have a slight interest in things Netherilian. Where is that reference taken from dennis?
Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 15:47:37
I'm fine with either. I'm interested in Karsus's "assessment" of Telamont, now that the Most High has grown much powerful since his apprenticeship to Karsus, and now that he claims to be ruler of the New Netheril.
Alisttair Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 15:37:57
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Telamont travelling back in time to "correct" Karsus's folly?!



No, t'will be done by Karsus resurrected.
Dennis Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 14:58:49
Telamont travelling back in time to "correct" Karsus's folly?!
Alisttair Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 14:04:02
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

As much as I'd like to see the Old Netheril explored more, that sounds quite unlikely as all novels focus on the 'current' century. But...who knows?! =)



An excellent idea. I also would like more of Old Netheril.
Dennis Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 20:28:20
quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

Yeah I figure Old Netheril is a long shot. I tried to phrase it in such a way to mean that it is one of many long shots that I would welcome. Another reason I would welcome Deep/High Imaskar is that it would hopefully allow for some interesting back story moments flashing back to the "glory days". Just as I would expect a series centered around Shade to hopefully have at least one book focus on Telamont and feature plenty of flashbacks or talk of the days of Old Netheril.



That's possible if the series would be published after PSK's Cycle of Night. I'd love to see that, too. Telamont hardly had any exposure in the TW trilogy.
Diffan Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 19:49:06
I voted Rasheman, since I could see getting some info on Thay, Aglarond, and possible the Nar/Demonlands too. I love the culture and I'm curious to see how things were handled after the Wytch War. Also, with the Weave altered I wonder how many Hathrans have changed over to the 'Primal' power source and have become Druids, Wardens, Sentinels, etc....

Tyrant Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 19:34:36
Yeah I figure Old Netheril is a long shot. I tried to phrase it in such a way to mean that it is one of many long shots that I would welcome. Another reason I would welcome Deep/High Imaskar is that it would hopefully allow for some interesting back story moments flashing back to the "glory days". Just as I would expect a series centered around Shade to hopefully have at least one book focus on Telamont and feature plenty of flashbacks or talk of the days of Old Netheril.
Dennis Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 16:50:28
As much as I'd like to see the Old Netheril explored more, that sounds quite unlikely as all novels focus on the 'current' century. But...who knows?! =)
Tyrant Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 04:16:50
I ended up voting for Deep and High Imaskar. I would like to know more about them and see them explored in depth. I think we can count on Cormyr seeing more screen time, though I think it's among the most likely on this list to get a series like this because it would sell.

Others was tempting. A slightly broader idea like the Dalelands, The Moonsea, or The Sea of Fallen Stars (or an ultra long shot like Old Nethril) could be interesting. It allows a lot more wiggle room because it would cover a broader area.
Dennis Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 21:28:55
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I honestly would not even look at those those, buy hey ...I'm stubborn like that!



I wouldn't, either.
The Red Walker Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 01:04:32
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

Well, I think a series about a city that wasn't seeing active treatment by the other authors, in order to show us something that we didn't otherwise see. If Paul's doing Shade, RAS is doing Neverwinter, Ed's doing Cormyr, etc.

I was going to say Luskan, but I've got that city on the brain. This is because my next novel (Shadowbane, Sept 2011) is set in Luskan, for all fans of the city. My subsequent novel is, I believe, moving considerably more inland, but that's all I'll say about it for now.

I went with other, because I'd be down with reading/writing-part-of "Eddie Presents: The Dalelands."


I could not agree more, I would grab up the following novels to find out what gong on in the dales currently:

Daggerdale - could show what a remaining group of hardcore Zhents are up to
Archendale- could show how hard pressed even the dales militarily strongest has had hard times
Battledale- Battles...what else
Scardale- Maybe Corellon and Gruumsh can settle what went down there long, long ago
Tarkhaldale- what are the saurials up to?
The High Dale- how they have held the mountain pass all these years....or haven't?
Shadowdale- what's changed, what hasn't....what happens to elminster hunters when he's not home?
quote:

Or what about "Eddie Presents: Abeir"? That could result in some cool stories.

Cheers



I honestly would not even look at those those, buy hey ...I'm stubborn like that!
Mr_Miscellany Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 23:32:39
Cormyr all the way baby.
The Sage Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 23:29:35
quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

I voted "Other", which means:

-Dalelands
-Baldur's Gate
-Border Kingdoms

Oh, I would so love to see the Border Kingdoms receive further treatment in the novels. But I seriously doubt it. I recall Ed saying in the past, that's it's better left as an area for development by DMs.



Well actually that makes perfect sense and that's also what I like very much about that realm. I always imagine starting with a Level 1 party there and having an abundance of small adventures for those low level PCs, where they can even mingle with local politics without really changing anything relevent in that area due to the minimal-sized "states".
Well, that's largely due to the fact that the Border Kingdoms, perhaps more so than any other part of the established Realms, are designed to be easily customised for particular and/or individual home Realms campaigns -- complete with swiftly shifting borders and ever-changing rulers. So there's plenty of room for changes and/or the addition of new details for your game.
skychrome Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 16:16:51
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

I voted "Other", which means:

-Dalelands
-Baldur's Gate
-Border Kingdoms

Oh, I would so love to see the Border Kingdoms receive further treatment in the novels. But I seriously doubt it. I recall Ed saying in the past, that's it's better left as an area for development by DMs.



Well actually that makes perfect sense and that's also what I like very much about that realm. I always imagine starting with a Level 1 party there and having an abundance of small adventures for those low level PCs, where they can even mingle with local politics without really changing anything relevent in that area due to the minimal-sized "states".

Nevertheless, if there was a novel series about lower level PCs set in the Border Kingdoms, discovering adventuring and doing classical adventures not even close to RSEs, I'd love it!
Erik Scott de Bie Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 06:16:22
Well, I think a series about a city that wasn't seeing active treatment by the other authors, in order to show us something that we didn't otherwise see. If Paul's doing Shade, RAS is doing Neverwinter, Ed's doing Cormyr, etc.

I was going to say Luskan, but I've got that city on the brain. This is because my next novel (Shadowbane, Sept 2011) is set in Luskan, for all fans of the city. My subsequent novel is, I believe, moving considerably more inland, but that's all I'll say about it for now.

I went with other, because I'd be down with reading/writing-part-of "Eddie Presents: The Dalelands."

Or what about "Eddie Presents: Abeir"? That could result in some cool stories.

Cheers

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